Breakingthewall

If you go bit deep maybe you ll realize that it's not sure that it's a container or a identity. You are creating that remembers, tastes, every thing, right now, and it's not sure that all that remembers really happened. They are only thoughts that appeared of the nothingness, and for you are real. But where is the container? The time is being created right now for your mind. It's complicated because there is time, there was dinosaur, evolution , etc. But in other hand no. Only this exactly moment exist and all that you are perceiving and thinking come from the nothing right now, in this no time eternal. But I couldn't say that I understand that

If Frank yang really had a breakthrough with 5 meo as he said, sure he knows how different is his mind before and after.

@Vittorio i realized About the creation from the nothingness. The thoughts were like shapes, like a wave, without any meaning, and after you translate them to words....I think. the avatar , like you named, is the thinker. He is shaping the nothingness, creating a shape, the shape is you, your egoic identity, the nothingness shaped, and he is who is Creating the thoughts , that are putting limits to the nothing. Creating the thing that is you, or me. We are only a shape of the substance of the infinity, that have no shape. The difference is that the "avatar" have not substance, is only shape, and the perceptor is substance, or at least I perceived the nothingness like a substance...but it's direct experience of a shorts sigths and could be wrong

Put a picture of you with that small shirts with a paper writed: don't use 5 meo , it's better meditate 10 years! If not I don't believe you are Frank yang

This is the only question of all you did that I could answer from my direct experience. They are not sounds, there are like shapes that you esculpt from the nothingness, and after you translate like sounds. The other question about the avatar and the perceptor, I realized that it's one who talks and another who is talked. Who talks is shaping the other, who listen. Both are you. If you focus in the talker, you are the shape, if you can forget the talker and be the listener, you have no limits because is the talker who create the limits . The listener is infinite, no shape , the talker is creating the shape all time, non stop any second.

I dance if I want to dance, but I can't stop to create thoughts

Yeah, from the nothingness. there is nothing and after the thought exist. But how do you do that? Why? How many levels of thoughts there are? Maybe all that you are perceiving is a thought, in deeper levels. Maybe a thought have the same nature that all reality that we are perceiving, create from the nothingness

Yes maybe, but how it appears? Who create it? Observe your mind and you will realize (or at least me) that are 2 kinds of thoughts. One is like phrases. Like: yesterday the meeting was bored, Donald trump is wonderful, my father was a bitch, etc , non stop. If you observe the mind and the talk stops, there are another kind of thoughts. They appear without words, in a fraction of second, like a shape, that means for example: I remembering that night in the disco with my girlfriend, there was no really crowed and quite dark, after that we had a good time. Is happens in 0,1 sec. They could be translated in words or not. If you are meditating you could stop the words but the thought and all his meaning happened. And In the meditation you could realize: really that night with my girlfriend happened, or it's only a thought that comes idk where that is shaping that remembering?. After that realization the thougts loose part of his power. I hope that with time it's possible go totally further than the thoughts

How toxic is the 5 meo DMT? if its toxicity were zero I would smoke a small dose every day, which would make my meditation much cleaner, and a dose of 15 mg every two weeks to make a foray into infinity. But I suppose that could have dire effects on my health. I feel that smoking 5 meo is aggressive for the lungs, for the brain I do not know, I have tried to investigate and I only found the case of a guy who said that after smoking about 3 grams in a year and a half (I think I remember) he had had serious problems respiratory symptoms during sleep, which the doctors told him was asthma but he was sure it was something neurological, after stopping consuming the problem disappeared. I've read that Martin Ball suffers from severe insomnia, but he says it's not caused by 5 meo. is there scientific evidence about its toxicity? Long term consumers?

Absolutely agree. For me 5 meo is being the door to the real meditation, but I'm sure that in not a long time is going to be less and less necessary

Meditating i had the perception that there is one who is talking and talking, and another who is listening. Both are the same "you" but who is talking, and can't stop talking is the mind, that is creating your reality. Who is listening is you too, but it's limitated for the talker. The talker is shaping the listener. If you focus in the listener, and forget the talker for a while, you will realize that the limits are dissapear....infinity. the listener is all that exist, and the talker is going to talk until it dissapear. he is the shaper. Without him there is no shape, only substance

Sure it's absolutely bad idea do it every day, but it's a big temptation do it often (like once a week) because most of the times you get like a satori. I don't mean a big dose like smoke 16 mg, that kill your ego, i did but I'm really lazy to do it again, I will but in time. I mean medium doses like 6,7,8 even 10 mg , that open a door (only if you already had a ego death at least once , before I didn't get almost nothing with small dosage). You could be in the middle of the time and no time, shifting from one to another, or see how your mind expand , and the limits dissolved, but keeping absolute control, even perceive the black hole of the void , infinite, same time that you perceive the world of the shapes. Every experience like that is like a gift. It's like a year of meditation, and are really beautiful, real.

Death is impossible for the infinity that is, but us, the minds who are talking, are already dead , but we pretend that are alive. Every single finite mind is the same of a thought. Something mechanical without real life. Like a software. Real but dead

@r0ckyreed imaginary=real. There is not difference. You are like a concept, a thought of the infinity that make shapes of the infinity with your talking, with your mind. Since you exist like an illusion, you are real. A thought is real, it's like a wave in the infinity, exist. You could name it "illusion" if you like , but the illusion exist. Now is shaping the infinity talking and talking. But the infinity remains inmutable, of course.

I mean sintetic 5 meo . About the toad, I think the bufotenine , another component of the venum , increase a lot the blood pressure and some accidents happened because that. Despite this I think that chamans like Octavio reitig smoked toad venum like 10 thousand of times. The danger with 5 meo happens if you overdose. Some cases of cessation of the breathing be been reported, but in intermedium dosage look safe. About long term use... impossible to find any report of damage, secondary effects, etc. In my case I could say that in 2 month of bit habitual use, more than 10 times, but only 3 breakthrough, I could say I feel better than ever , I sleep better than ever and I increase my conciousness more than i could imagine in a short time. It doesn't means that if you keep doing for a year for example, the way is going to be the same.

Thanks for the advertisements, I know that it's not a good idea since there is not information, that's why I'm not doing, but a medium dose once a week is helping me a lot to get deeper in meditation. Since I had a breakthrough I have dissolution experiencies since 6 mg. I'm sure that there had been many who really abused of 5 meo, because in many countries is legal and easy to get, and there is many crazy people, and many people in general, so I guess that the lack of info means lack of bad effects, but it isn't sure. Look like agressive for the lungs, like burn, but if it's 99% of 5 meo, and vapor not really hot, since I smoke in a flask , idk why it's agressive. Despite all of that, I'm going to moderate the use since day by day the meditation alone is getting deeper and easyer, but 5 meo helps a lot, it's like a booster. But start a dependence is always a bad idea

The infinity void that is in the no time , "is" . Is being right now, in all his infinite no shape. Can you feel it? Your shape , transparent hologram , is talking to it. Talking and talking and limitating with the shape of the mind. Since you focus in the mind, you are the mind , since you focus in where the mind is acting, you are the "is", but at the end you are the is right now, despite the transparent hologram of the mind

@r0ckyreed yeah, but imaginary means that have been created for the imagination of the absolute, in a perfect and huge orchestra, where all the imaginary characters have a karma. So there we are imaginary but real. The meaning of all this game go further than the mind can catch, but if you are connected , you d feel that it's not the same to torture babys than love grandmothers. I don't know why, because all of us are only a shape, an hologram, nothing at the end

Maybe the classic will work: go to the mountain or natural place alone the necessary days to meditate all day with little food, until the mystical experience appears

Well, I'm thinking the same about you haha. Are you real or you are going to dissapear when my mind turns off? I think it doesn't matter. There are concepts that could help you to dissolve the power of the boundaries of the mind, but at the end...it's the same. think all of us exist like an impossible of understand performance, and for each one of us , the others are only dreams...but who knows

A glimpse of the absolute is going to burn any history or belief. It's the only way to escape of the trap of the mind. You don't need psichodelics, many people get it only meditating, but for others it is a huge help

Is really difficult to the mind accept that by definition, all his concepts are false. Over all is one concept that the mind is unable to catch: infinity. If you realize the infinity , the mind is going to loose a big part of his dominium. I ve been trying to escape of the mind dominium many years and I never got any progress. I got more calm, more mature, etc...but in real spirituality, zero. The only way that had worked for me is to do 5 meo dmt. To Do It literally break your mind and send you to the infinity. Maybe you do and you don't realize how important change was happened in you, but a hole in your mind ve been created and that hole is a window to the infinity. When your mind is fronted with the infinity, became humble

Exactly, those concepts are useful to relax the mind, to get it open and make the realization possible. The concept by itself is nothing, the realization is go further nof the mind, is let it go and surrender. is an act of the heart not of the mind, but those concepts , if the mind accept them , could make it possible

He do wonderful designs inspired in 5 meo trips

I think that the point isn't if the world is real or not, it's the same, only a concept. The point is that for the mind , have the idea that the world isn't real, that is like a dream where you are the dreamer and same time the object of the dream , is the way to relax the ego and blur the limits between you and the other things