Breakingthewall

You don't even explain anything, and you immediately come out disqualifying. Dick contest???. If you understand something you can develop it, if you don't really understand it, you go off on a tangent, like Leo does when you ask him about solipsism. wake up you stupid piece of trash fagot!? Anyway, thanks for the conversation

science tries to understand the finite, it has nothing to do with the infinite. science is within the finite, it is a creation within this experience that takes shape in the infinite. it is appearance. The absolute infinity can't be touched by science because science is a creation of the absolute infinity

what you are saying is that someone, through meditation, induces himself into a state like propofol anesthesia. perfectly possible, why not? but does this mean anything? the experience that occurs is, shall we say, imagined. Within that experience is propofol anesthesia, deep sleep, and also cessation of meditation, which are basically just a time jump. what does this mean? Nothing. an achievement achieved with practice, like doing a double somersault. It is inside the dream, inside the apparently finite.

That is the cessation of the ego. Of course that this is real. But this is not the cessation that the op or bipolargrowth are talking about. They are talking about the cessation of the conciousness. This is impossible, if it were the case, it's just non existence.

The reality is the absolute infinity, and nothing else could be.

Man, don't be a clown, please. We are talking in a forum about the cessation. Obviously the only approach is intellectual . Cessation is a word. What that word means? I think it doesn't mean nothing, just an invention of people who meditate a lot to make themselves interesting and special. never lose sight of this fact: in spirituality there are many pretentious idiots trying to compensate for a wounded ego.

@roopepa you Re talking about the ego cessation , that of course is real. The op is talking about the cessation of the conciousness, that is a strange concept. If it's the case, is the non existence. The non existence doesn't exist, because otherwise it were existence, etc...so , what is the cessation? @BipolarGrowth talk about it but he doesn't explain what is it.

@roopepa that's not the cessation they're talking about here imo

the true masculine is castrated, since what the true masculine loves most is war, destruction and death. the feminine is realized by giving life, the masculine by killing. That's demanded by the gods, aka, the genes.

So? That's nothing, just an idea. existence is conciousness, if there is no consciousness there is no existence, therefore cessation does not exist What do you mean? Ok that "of" but awareness is the case, so define cessation

they really say that they are god, only few understand it. They say that God is infinite. If something is infinite, there is nothing outside of it, therefore, you are part of God. if you are part of the infinite, you are the complete infinite, since in the infinite the part equals the whole. When Jesus says that the kingdom of heaven is within each one, he is clearly manifesting it. all Christian mystics understood this. don't expect someone who has adopted religion as dogma to understand this, or anything else. This type of people is not oriented towards understanding but towards other things, and it does not have to be otherwise. some of them are integrous and have quite intuitive understanding

What do you exactly mean with that? Could you describe?

incomprehensible. if it were the total cessation of consciousness, you would not be aware of it. It would be like an anesthesia with propofol, a time jump. I have experienced absolute emptiness with psychedelics, without me, without sensory information, without god, nothing. empty. but i was aware of it, since otherwise, i would not be describing it. So what are these people talking about?

Good description. but the point here is that leo says that the deeper he has gone, the more love, the more selflessness, the more beauty, the more happiness. Instead it looks like he has aged 10 years in the trenches of World War I watching murder and evil. The younger Leo was much more authentic. imo the younger leo had a total awakening and he looked happy, bright. This awakening should have served him to be able to guide others to that same realization, and thus have a selfless, happy and love-filled life. instead, his path was to "go deeper." deeper into infinity, where more and less are the same. until he became an alien rat and stuff. denying your own human nature, becoming a strange guy that nobody understands, always dissatisfied. One detail: He recently had a scare from too many psychedelics. a serious imbalance. what has he done? take a break from drugs? maybe 3 months without taking? not! switch to thc. verdict: junkie But anyway, he's an extremely brilliant person, a pioneer. Anything he does is very interesting for us. We can learn from his mistakes. And of course, probably the genius could reverse the situation and take advantage of it. Lets see

Yes , survival, but not the survival of the individual but of the collective, of the tribe. the human individual is nothing, just a cog in a machine, the same as an ant or a bee. language is the means and the collective ego the result. If you remove the collective ego from the human, that is, all the software that has been downloaded through language, what remains? an empty shell with inarticulate impulses, incapable of even the most basic That's we are trying, free ourselves of the collective ego, but keeping his functionality to use it at will. So we could be a totally free being. Free of the instinct, because our genetic instinct is basic and weak, and free of the collective ego. so what's left? The naked reality. Pure Existence

Of course, the leonism, the new religion in which believers say they are god and only they exist

You only say that because you've seen Leo's video on solipsism. all that is nothing more than ideas, mental masturbation.

I had that feeling for long time. In fact, I thought it would be impossible for me to stop having hateful feelings towards part of my family, but the fact is that I no longer have them and I have reached an equanimity that I thought would be impossible. this has come through the understanding of what this experience is. and my understanding is far from complete right now, but it was in a moment. You just have to surrender your ego. Sure you already know that. I remember few weeks ago that I had a complete liberation, become infinite, with 5meo. The next day I had a dream, I dreamed that my life was lacking in love. deficient, petty, miserable human love. I went back to sleep and in another dream I became infinite exactly the same as with 5meo, and this reality: all love, without reservations, was available to me. I was that. the glass was full, to the brim. These realizations never leave you. The next 5 days i had total reactivations, and 2 days later, i broke my leg....and now im in bed with 8 screws in my bone , with a really difficult business stopped, waiting....but i ve zero anger. I still understand beyond words what this experience is. Let's see in the future

there seems to be something like that. It's sad because I thought Leo was a genius, a guy with total integrity and a true pioneer of true spirituality. but the truth is that things are going...not really good. disappointing, as usual in humans. But who knows, maybe he is able to turn the situation around. Yesterday I was watching a video from 4 years ago that a user posted on the forum. You could see a transparent, happy, honest leo. then i saw fragments of the latest videos. Quite different . But let's see, it's difficult to make an opinion

He said he would when he found a suitable camera to record the transformation. He also said that God Realization was nonsense, that really the objective was the alien god, but that this was hidden from us because our human mind could not manage it. that from now on he was going to teach alien awakening. He also said that he had never been happier because if he closed his eyes he would see green and blue aliens doing somersaults and going in helicopters. then he expressed concern because he was in a constant psychedelic state, with nocturnal activations, and then he never returned to the matter. it looks like he is now using thc . This all sounds pretty strange, doesn't it?

In my opinion it is essential to do field work. get out of your comfort zone over and over again, each time more intensely. in short: fight. you have to break the conditionings that keep you bound. it is not enough to do self-inquiry work, meditation and psychedelics. you have to go out in the arena and fight. think that ultimately you are also what is outside of you. Thinking that you can ignore the outside and only work on the inside is a mistake. there is no outside and inside

Liberation is when the limits that made you finite are broken and you become infinite. you can say that it does not exist since the limits are not real, and also that you do not have a toothache since the teeth are imaginary. directly, you could not say anything, since everything is imaginary

Because genetics and materiality are consciousness

what does that mean? could you develop? Edit: i searched in google. Yeah, seems this

Lately is really difficult to understand Leo. He does not develop what he says, he only indicates how wrong others are. Before, he said that you could understand with your mind. If so, it could also be explained with the mind. but he doesn't, he tells you: if you want to know, wake up. my conclusion is that since his awakenings 4 years ago, he has made no progress. that was all. Why go deep into infinity? It doesn't matter a little or a lot. the goal is to fully awaken to make this life the best possible version. not to continue using drugs daily for fun. look at his attitude. what do you perceive? love? But I'd like a lot to be wrong.