Breakingthewall

If nobody is totally 100% awake here (i agree with that, including me), who is going to have the option of the alien awakening?

Yeah but the real suffering is mental, spiritual. It's feeling of lack of love. it is the dissonance between what is, which is absolute love, and what should be, that is a mental creation. it is as if your being is separated from love and is flowing in the void, parallel to love. the difference between the two tracks is anxiety, suffering. life is suffering, it is a fight against what is. anxiety, misery . that's how we humans live

I don't say others can't help, just that to search what you are looking for in the others at the end doesn't work. Desire of awakening is desire to search inside yourself to find yourself. To realize that everything is inside yourself

Why you fear the pain when 99,999% of time there is no pain?

I mean sex, position, appearance. many people are spiritual by status. In the end everything is: please, love me. When you realize that love is inside you, you start looking less outside

Awakening has to be in an absolute level. Most think that they are happy when they are very miserable. We have a great talent to hide ourselves the truth

The human psyche is very complex. we are extremely sensitive emotionally, and we are thrown into the arena. people create shells and never come out of them. the lack of love creates pain and in the face of pain the person protects himself. no one has all the love they need. human love, when you leave childhood (if you have been lucky and have been truly loved in childhood, that is not so rare) you enter the desert. in an emotional enigma with a very difficult solution. the only solution is awakening. the rest is misery. human life is basically happy childhood, then misery.

You will give up material desires when material desires seem nonsense to you. If you leave them sooner, you'll be a bitter repressed but that does not mean that you abandon your spiritual search until you are not interested in the material, the two things are compatible, but the deeper you go, the less that will interest you, which will make you go even deeper So the thing is not negative (abandon desires) but positive, go deeper. The desires will get weak naturally

@Leo Gura Yes, I understand how it can unbalance life. I also have Martin Ball insomnia in mind, I don't know how he is now. but the reality is that there was a barrier in my mind that I had to break. Good thing this substance exists

You Could be right, but my mind is very solid and i have quite good intuition. Anyway, everything is possible. We will see

@LSD-Rumi Your reasoning is completely logical and your conclusions are the same as those reached by a revolutionary philosophy: Nazism. Let's see, nature is absolutely ruthless. if a baby of an animal is born defective, it is eliminated in minutes. the old survive only as long as they are fit. Species that do not adapt go extinct. going against this is not only weakness and degeneration, it is going against life. we're all going to die anyway, so there's no point in prolonging the inevitable when it's useless. useless for the evolution of the species. where do you find a flaw in this reasoning? don't have it right? except for a reason. we humans are not governed by natural law. we were, let's say, expelled from the garden of eden. our path is to transcend the animal. we are a hive organism, not individuals, the individual is non-existent, and our path is towards total ethics, towards the elimination of barriers between us, towards the fusion between individual and group, and the fusion of all groups into one: existing ones. the manifestation of this is solidarity.

solipsism says that there is nothing outside of you. this is true, it is impossible to prove otherwise. but accepting this, you have to accept that you are not aware of everything that is within you, for example, you aren't aware of creating your perception. therefore, you cannot demonstrate that the others that you see in your Inter are in turn conscious, and see others who are also conscious to infinity. everyone is you, but you are only aware of the tip of the iceberg

I'm not pessimistic, i just said that it's not spirituality, it's human love, that is great and important, but he's talking about a guru, not a lover. But you are right, i judge just for one paragraph. Let's have a look of the book

all he does is give momentary comfort, and generate unrealistic and false expectations making you believe that what you need is unconditional human love to be completed. it's heroin in the form of words

is a little fox looking for business among people who feel alone, abandoned, unloved. Little son of a bitch

so in the end he admitted that reality is intelligence

It seems that he is just asking for a therapist, or maybe a girlfriend/therapist

I'd say that the Leo's work is done. A great work that will remain for posterity. the first to really decipher out what reality is. I think that in a few years, everything he has explained will be normal and obvious to many people. It's Leo's forum but it's your forum too since you are spending your time here and give here your best, you can tell him what do you think, same as me Said that, my opinion is that he should re admit flyboy, he wasn't a stupid at all, he is a solid guy, but he don't understand. contrasting his opinions is a useful exercise

Well, a little emotional outburst after being insulted and repeated 20 times that the work you believe in and give your all to is a scam, it's not something weird. Leo is a guy who explains how to realize the absolute truth. He has done it and he explains to you in the best way he can how to do it, and that's it. He is not a saint, or an example to follow. in fact, there are no examples to follow, all of that is bullshit.

Exactly, suffering is the dissonance that prevents you from aligning with the truth. it is an indicator of where you have to work. Suffering at the end is just the dissonance between what it is and what should be, there are many layers of this. once you decide to open yourself up to the absolute truth, as it seems you have, your emotional suffering will quickly subside, but the absolute truth is very scary, it takes a lot to surrender to it. I'm there

I don't understand why it is said so much that leo is so harsh and all that, when he only bans those who have insulted him 20 times in a row, and they have been intentionally acting for a long time to discredit his work. He bans really very few people

Suffering is an effective system of avoiding absolute truth. attachment to suffering keeps you asleep. you have to realize the obvious: you are constantly causing your own suffering, and you do it to stay asleep. there are no external agents causing you suffering, it is always you.

@LSD-Rumi you do well, if you are in the spirituality, go to the bottom. you have two challenges ahead, accept the substance, and then accept the absolute truth. both require time. but as you said above, reality is what it is, living in deception is not an option when you are aware of it

it is a matter of perspective. they think they are a perceiver perceiving an objective external reality, when this is an illusion and nothing external exists even as a concept

It's the best topic, the most difficult to understand imo. Let's see, consciousness cannot be duplicated, it can be limited. You as an entity are perception and memory. both are limited, finite. your pov is a creation of your perception and memory. if you remove both, you access the real pov, which is unlimited. your perception systems do not add something, they take it away, creating a concrete experience. this experience is illusory, and there are many. they are all really the same pov, but they look different. there is only one real experience, yours. many apparent experiences. they are nothing, a mirage, like a hologram. everything is you. there is no time, no space, no separation. there are overlapping constraints that seem to act separately. remove your limitation, and all others collapse on you