Breakingthewall

This work would require people who truly wanted to reach the bottom, not those who just wanted to feel better and be better than others. Perhaps one in every million. But I'm sure that they will grow exponentially given the multiple causal lines converging, people will slowly realize that there's no point in comparing with others, and that no matter how good you feel, and no matter how many stories you pretend to believe, they will soon stare death in the face. And there, mental tricks won't work; you have to go in naked. So some will strip before the moment.

@kbone I feel ridiculous about answering you, you are just a narcissist with anything interesting to say. Are you crazy? It's sad to read you You don't say absolutely nothing, just that zen is great and that you were in the Himalayas meditating and that you get along well with your wife and your brothers are divorced but you still married. It's hard reading you, a lot of extension, zero content. Maybe you should go again to the Himalayas, and congratulations to your wife, sure she is brave. A revelation: spiritual people are , well, let's say not specially smart. That's why spirituality is so low. Let's see if it's possible to reach intelligent people, times are changing, you are the past. 😘 And good luck, you will need.

Life has meaning in every dimension and perspective. For example, it can mean suffering in prison or breathing while in a coma or be depressed and then commit suicide, or weight 250 kg and eat 3 kg of ice cream by day. Every micro-vibration that appears in life has infinite significance; it's there because it's absolutely inevitable and necessary for the harmony of the whole. Every step you take reverberates in eternity. It's the flow of the dance of form, a perfect symphony, absolutely synchronized. The meaning of life is life. If you open your eyes, it's obvious. Ralston quotes Henry Miller, who was always drunk and whoring. That was the meaning of his life. And, by the way, the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn are great.

My father was a level 10 grandiose narcissist. My mother was an exile from a Muslim country, intelligent and cultured but with low self-esteem. My father played a character in which he worshipped Hitler and constantly proclaimed his eugenics ideas. When I was 10, 11, 12 he made me shower with him and he would pose like a bodybuilder and tell me: I am perfect, you are imperfect and such things. I worshipped him like a god. They both died of cancer before I turned 20. My father was a severe alcoholic and smoked 80 cigarettes a day. Right when he died, I was looking into his eyes. I saw absolute terror, and at one point, in the hospital room, I saw him floating in the darkness, with strings coming out of his limbs like a puppet, and he was making a strange squawking noise while making spasmodic movements. This filled me with absolute joy, and I started laughing nonstop. Since there were people in the room, I pretended to cry and went outside. I laughed for several minutes. I'd never been so happy. I used to feel sad about my parents, and angry about my father, because he made my mother my sister and me hate ourselves and each other, live in shame. He used to say that he was a CEO of a big company, he was a kinda of scammer. I loved him, he made me feel shit but same time instinctively I felt pity about him, so weak, and my mother also, but later I realized what my father did and I hate him with fire. Luckily he was dead. In the past sometimes I thought about them and I felt like I want to die, don't be in this form. Now it's just something that happened, a circumstance. The movement that the reality took in some moment, nothing special, just relation, cause effect. In fact I feel happy thinking about them. After he dies I went to another city alone, I started working and in 5 years I had a business, in other 3,4 I ve money enough to do what I wanted. Then I started traveling and that, but of course I always had a lot of disfuncional shit in me. I did a very serious work in what all my intelligence and intuition was involved, but was no exit. Until I found the exit, was the unlimited. Nothing else would work . Long trip , interesting adventure. That's life, depth, vastness, absolute beauty and glory of the unlimited

Why do you say such things? I was talking about Huang po. I really would like that Huang PO was absolutely enlightened and he shows the people the way, but it isn't the case. It's hard to see that everyone is wrong. I don't want to gain a competition, I want the absolute openess. I think you are projecting your human thing in me, anyone who's perceptive could see that there is not emotional drama in my opinion about Huang po No, I read what he wrote. Then Im talking about the Huang po ideas, not about his personality. Another thing: Huang po say: the reality is an infinite mind. Well, that's wrong. When he says "mind" he means relationship. A mind is relation between opposites. The reality is absence of limitations and from this the mind inevitably arises. I say that because I open myself to the unlimited more or less every day. At first was difficult, I used to do 5meo in high doses a lot, maybe 200 times, probably more. I use to do LSD , then weed and then 5meo, in the middle of the night in the dark. Was not enough. Before I used to fly in delta in extreme conditions. "Extreme" means something that now I can't believe. Why doing that shit? Same climbing very exposed, was not enough, nothing was enough, maybe im not the smarter but when I grab something I polish it until it's impossible to polish more, even it take years second by second, I can't avoid it, then, after lot of polishment something started to happen. One day in bed reality become like water, no reference, very scary. Then I went deeper and deeper in the absence of grabbing until the thing got open, without doubt. Then I understand why Huang po says that reality is a mind and what he means, it's absolutely obvious . You could stop judge about my parents and those psychological thing, I'm absolutely out of that, you can act like you believe and judge only what I say about Huang po, not your projections

@kbone I'll give you an example. Huang Po says, "Reality is an orange." This implies that he's seeing an orange, and for him, that's what reality is. He doesn't open the orange and eat it. He doesn't see what the orange is. He sees that reality is an orange without penetrating its substance. Although he claims not to have bias, he has a bias toward silence, mental concepts, and peace. So, he sees the orange, but he can't open it. He don't realize that he is the orange.

Less ego and more real conversation. Argue this: Huang Po says: Enlightenment cannot be sought or achieved because it is already there. Stop seeking and you are already a Buddha. Wrong. Your energetic configuration closes by default; it is innate. Your human glue makes you perceive in a certain way. If you want to open yourself to what reality is, you must desire it and break down the barriers until only openness remains. It's difficult, so difficult that Huang po didn't achieve it.

🤣🤣No, I'm absolutely normal in emotional sense, but I can detach myself from the human thing. If you want to see you must be absolutely simple, it's not easy, believe me. By the way, I've talked a lot about what I see wrong with Huang Po. Your answer is anything but Huang Po. That is, your response is emotional, not logical. To see, your framework must be like a diamond, not honey. Honey is sticky and opaque, although it's sweet

It is a metaphor that points to the emergence of a new dimension of reality that occurs with the appearance of humans, and that is the ego mind. Before humans, there was no mind, only instinctive life, programmed entirely by genes. With humans, a new vital dimension appears: the ego mind, which separates from matter and evolves free of the genetic structure. The ego mind is an energetic organism of enormous power that uses the processing capacity of millions of individuals, their emotional and conceptual energy, to increase in complexity at a brutal speed. If you compare the evolutionary pace of life with that of the ego, you will understand what it implies. Imagine where the ego in 200,000 years could go. Absolute mastery of reality at a quantum level, transcendence of matter, becoming an interdimensional intelligent flow that permeates reality and opens new, literally unimaginable frontiers.

Or maybe you can realize that your goals and motivations are determined by the relational flow of reality within itself, like each of your thoughts. You are not a separate entity that decides what goals you will have, but rather every minimal energetic movement of your mind is synchronized with the whole. Then you can consciously align yourself with the whole in the most perfect way possible

Developing a conceptual framework based on a previous conceptual structure is not the same as developing a conceptual framework based on real openness that is transparent, in the sense that it has no barriers or limits. To be able to see this, openness must be real. But even if you achieve real openness at certain times, your energetic structure will close, so it's essential to develop a conceptual framework that facilitates openness next time and allows a let's say transparent state all time The conceptual framework is not "just a thought", it's an energetic structure that operates in background all time, even you are in mental silence . For example if you are a zen master and for you silence is better than concept, the human world is Maya and you can't searching enlightenment, then that's your conceptual framework, disguised of absence of conceptual framework

Let's imagine that reality is unlimited. It's not closed in any of its dimensions/perspectives/possibilities. Reality is configured in structures, like a human, for example, precisely because it is not limited. These structures are created in relation, synchrony, connection, with other structures, ad infinitum, since, as we have said, there are no limits in any direction. Due to their configuration, in order to operate, exist, or remain, they operate on a closed frequency, since the framework in which they exist demands it. It's a matter of existing or not existing, and they operate to exist. It's an automatic and eliminatory process. What is incoherent is not functional and does not exist, period. So, at a given moment, these structures reach a critical point where they tend toward breaking the limitation imposed by the need to synchronize with the whole, like a change of phase. This isn't easy because the limitations the mind has created to limit itself are real. The mind is an interface for connecting with the whole, and at the same time, it is the whole. Reality, as we said, is unlimited. Therefore, it operates in infinite interconnected dimensions, and each of them is the total reality. The part is the whole, the whole is the part, as you know. This need for coherent interconnection is what closes, since form doesn't exist by itself; it exists in relation to infinite forms. Therefore, it focuses on synchronicity and loses the dimension of absolute depth. So, to get to the point, when someone like Ralston says, "Reality is consciousness," they're staring at a wall. . They just don't know it. If he would say: reality is concious, would be different. And when someone like Huang Po says that reality is "this," without a concept, they're separating reality from concept when concept is not separate from reality: it is one of its forms. Unlimited reality also manifests itself as a concept. The error is not conceptualizing, but losing the openness in conceptualization. There are closed concepts and also open concepts. That is the key: not to deny the concept, but to open it, to sustain it as a living structure of openness itself, zen are placing themselves in the position of deny something in favor of anything else. They're defining enlightenment as peace and emptiness vs confusion and maya, thereby limiting and flattening their vision. It's not a question of whether they're wise, happy, functional, kind, and a good person. It's a question of whether or not their structure allows for unlimited openness

You can perceive that Ramakrishna is operating from an open configuration, or at least seems so, Vivekananda same, maybe you couldn't agree in what they say about service or many things that they said , just their perspectives, preferences, but they are not limited or at least seem so. The thing is that their explanations are confusing, but maybe because they are from another culture or just their minds are in different frequencies, they don't articulate with precision, just evocative, but at least not limited, you can perceive broad vision, depth

Limited doesn't mean that he's not all-encompassing, but its depth is limited. Depth can be both limited and unlimited. If it's limited, then you're operating from a closed configuration, like Ralston, and your job is to open it up so it's unlimited, not to teach people your ideas that come from your limited configuration, but that's what almost every teacher does.

Thank you for your condescension. I appreciate it, and it's extremely helpful. I hope it makes you feel better. What I wanted to say is that being present and forgetting the fragmentation produced by the conceptual mind isn't true openness. You can believe what I say or not. If you are interested in what I meant to try to understand I could explain. I'm trying to have conversations without measurements of egos. let's see if it's possible. What you explained about nothing is what happens when you realize that what appears is empty, just an hologram. In my experience It's just a realization, mean that you detach the meaning that the mind gives to everything and then everything appears empty. But really it's full, everything is infinite, but in a different plane. The vision that says that everything just appears magically is limited, everything appears because there are no limits. It's very different. The zen vision is flat, lacks depth, and it's so because they reject "maya". Yo can give a lot of advices about letting go and that, or try to understand what I'm saying, your choice

What do you mean ? My "knowledge" comes from observing

If you call the ego the narcissim and lack could be, but ego is also all the human structure, the way of relation, language, conceptual frame, past and future, idea of progression, the need of bonds, the couple, friendship, family. all the human software. It's extremely brilliant, a perfect machine of evolution

Who would do what? Human beings are relational beings. Their foundation is the other. Most of their structure is relational. Our emotional system is enormously powerful; its drive creates civilizations. It's not some mental nonsense you deactivate because you've seen a video of Tolle; it's the impulse of life in all its power. If, on a global level, tribalism ceases to make sense, the emotional system focuses on another dimension, success, couple, narcissism, fun. When this ceases to make sense, all that remains is suicidal depression and nihilistic horror, or total openness.

All of this is because, even if they claim otherwise, their perspective is that of an observer. They haven't realized that they are the reality. they operate from a limited perspective. They think otherwise, that they are enlightened because they silence the mind and perceive directly, but there is perceptor and perception, that's why for them the perception of silence is more true than the perception of maya, because Maya make them like confused. They don't realize that they are maya. If they would say: the silence can allow openess more easy than noise, then ok, but no, they say: the silence is the openess. That's wrong. They confuse a mental state with reality itself . For them enlightenment is a mental state where you realize that "this" is everything. But no, openess is not realizing it, is be open to what reality is, not realizing, it's very different, in another dimension because the reality is you, you are that, you don't realize that you are, you open your perception because was closed. You was looking to a wall all time, then you remove it, it's not about silence.

The ego is the reality taking on a very complex form, composed of countless relationships. A perfect energetic structure of unimaginable complexity. Imagine the complexity of a human brain, its trillions of energy layers. Imagine it at a quantum level. It seems like a joke. It's the work of a god of gods; it's inconceivable. Well, this supports an energetic structure that sustains itself, feeds on its environment, mutates, synchronizes with other egos, dances with them, and from its dance emerges another structure of immense power, the collective ego, which in turn mutates and synchronizes with the total flow of reality. Then you could see that the ego is as real as a Galaxy

That what I see limiting. Maybe I'm wrong , but the idea of void is absolutely meaningless. Void of what? What means void if you are there being the void? It isn't void if you are that. Maybe it's without form, but there is total potential, total potential is something, don't need to look like a table, its enough that is a reality. Then seems that they can't see that, that they really think that they realized the void because their mind is silent and can't see that silent or noise is exactly the same, both are manifestations of the reality

Both Heraclitus and Huang Po are profound and intelligent, and I agree with everything you've said, but we're not talking here about being wise, intelligent, happy, enjoying life, understanding impermanence, understanding the spontaneity of reality, but about being open to the unlimited, and when Huang po talks about an infinite mind can't help but perceive closure. But perhaps the problem is semantic. But his rejection of thought and conceptualization seems limiting to me. For him, every concept or idea is false. And then he says that reality is a mind, which is a closed concept, since mind is equivalent to relationship, and relationship is the manifestation of the absolute. Relationship is made of the whole, not relationship is the whole. The mind is made of the whole. To say that the whole is a mind points out its limitation to me like an arrow. It may be open about many things, but not about the essentials. Blasphemy? Well... For him, ultimate reality is the experience of the formless. Here, alarm bells are ringing. The whole is not an experience, it is the substance of experience. He says enlightenment cannot be sought because that's it. Another mistake: enlightenment isn't, it's not "this," but direct, without conceptualization. That's the experience of a cat. The experience of a cat isn't enlightenment; it's closed. The opening is in the heart, in your entire being. It's the opening to absolute infinity, to the limitlessness of total power, to the absolute glory of limitless infinity and it's absolute power, it's absolute joy of being unlimited, or better, the fact that joy means unlimited, , it's absolute expansión in all the dimensions. Seems that Huang Po is closed to this, imo it's the problem of the Buddhists, they reject suffering, thought, maya, as "false", then they reject the absolute, and are close to it.

The vast majority of people, 99.999%,, probably much more, until two or three generations ago, operated from a place of tribalism, driven by belonging, by being part of a group. When this begins to dissolve, a huge number of people are left in a limbo that they try to fill in different ways. Material success, finding a partner as an ideal of happiness, sex, drugs, sports, and above all, narcissism. Most operate from a place of lack, from a core that's missing something. It's how reality finds the necessary imbalance for the movement that must occur to happen. Spirituality is about getting out of that frequency and opening your center to reality. It's the only possible way. It's not easy, and there are many traps, but eventually, that will be the path that is seen as the only viable one, once it becomes clear that the others are empty

Yes , what you say is inevitable. If the manifestation of the absolute is infinite, it has no origin, it is not expanding, it is infinitely expanded. This implies that if there is intelligence and consciousness, as we know, these are infinite, absolutely interconnected and total. And this intelligence and consciousness encompass the totality of reality, and you can connect with it and be one with it. This is phase 2 of spirituality and it has no end. There are infinite degrees, but first anyone has to reach phase 1, which is the opening to the absolute, to the nature of all that exists, whether it is a drug addict, a rat, or universal intelligence. Without this the phase 2 is confusing, I think that for navigating in infinity first you have to see that anything is the absolute, it's the same god or a rat

Well, those countries don't have nukes by virtue of a 1997 treaty, but they also promised not to expand NATO's borders, and then they did. Besides, Russia fears missile shields on its borders and any disruption of the balance. NATO could, at any given moment, decide to put nukes in Ukraine, just as it decided to expand NATO, and then there would be nothing to do; Russia would be surrounded, and it doesn't want that. It's all symbolic and paranoid on both sides. If the nukes fly, it's over, but they really don't feel good about Ukraine being in NATO. They feel that Ukraine, although independent, is linked to Russia. It's like if your enemy fucks your ex-girlfriend, he could do it with others. Why precisely her? What's the point?