Breakingthewall

Me same, I recognize the artist there; I imagine him with several advisors saying: "Well, I think a little shorter, and raise your hands in that endearing gesture you make." "Yes, yes, like that, let the turban move." "No! Too strident, softer, more... enlightened." "Exactly! You've got it!" And they high-five.

Sorry to know, I also have a couple of things that make me suffer and desire don't existing, family things. That led me to look for a way out Well, I wrote like 20 post about the topic in this thread and I mentioned Ralston once if I remember well, and I wrote those post as deep as I can

Mental suffering is far more persistent because it points to a much more elaborate action. The fire burns, the rat flees. You were gang-raped, you ruminate for years, you suffer, then perhaps you dedicate your life to helping rape victims, or perhaps you orchestrate an elaborate revenge by hiring Russian mercenaries, or perhaps you undergo a phase shift and stop seeing the aggression as personal, beginning to see reality as intertwined emergent movements that dance with each other, and rape is like roses in summer. The mind is a hyper-complex organism that creates persistent energetic structures that give rise to prolonged and profound actions.

I read the post, but it doesn't explain exactly how to stop suffering, he just said that he observed the suffering and how he's creating it, then he stopped creating it. But this implies a let's say , not exact idea of what means "he". Again the example of a Nigerian jail and gang rape when I was 9, and more, my mother sold me there to be raped in exchange of a Louis Vuitton bag quite ugly. Tell me , how to stop this rumination. I know how.

I ask you not to Ralston, and I said that it's possible to finish with that suffering, but the question is how So, how would you dissolve it?

That would imply there are two categories of life: that of the cell, or the animal, which is real, and its suffering is legitimate, necessary for survival; and the mental category, which is unreal, and its suffering is a kind of system error, an unnecessary loop that must be deactivated. But reality is not like that. The mind is a living being, exactly like the cell, only on another plane, in another phase. The mind arises as an interface that interconnects separate organisms through symbolism, and it is a stable, self-preserving energetic structure, just like a cell. Mental suffering is activated by symbolism, but symbolism is as real as the fire that burns you. When the emperor makes the symbol: thumbs-down , the gladiator says, "Fuck me." And his system releases an energetic discharge that is perceived as suffering, just as a rat's system releases an energetic discharge that is perceived as suffering if you burn it with a flame.

Obviously, there is suffering that is my responsibility as a self. For example, if there's a flame and I put my hand on it repeatedly and get burned, I'm responsible for that suffering. It's enough to simply not put my hand there, and that's it. But we're not talking about that; we're talking about when I suffer because I obsessively remember being gang-raped in a Nigerian prison at age 9 (to give an extreme example). Tell me, how would you dissolve that suffering? What causes that suffering? What is the mechanism to deactivate it? It's possible, but let's see how.

What means unnecessary? Maybe reality is, let's say, not smart enough ,and creates unnecessary things? Or maybe it's me who can't see deep enough to understand the purpose of what is?

Simplification are good in simple matters, but this is not the case.

The moment life arises, tension appears. The essence of life is the will to be. A hyper-complex molecule, like RNA, lacks a will to be; it exists because the laws of the universe dictate its inevitable appearance under certain circumstances. Life is not the same; it is another phase in which a structure closes and self-preserves, protecting itself from the external world, attempting to adapt and endure. Suffering is anything that goes against this vector. The suffering of a cell is essentially the same as the egoic suffering of not getting likes on Instagram, only the latter operates through symbolism, but its essence remains the same: it is life pushed back when it points forward. Suffering is not a mistake; it is the necessary tension for the development of life. Now, I, as the mind, take a step back and say, "WTF? What is this joke? Fighting to endure when it's sure I'm going to die? There's a problem here. I'm fighting against reality, when I am reality. I have to find a way out of this enigma. The first thing the human mind does in the face of this dilemma is cling to religion, including non-duality. But this is on the conceptual mental plane. Your energetic system knows it's not real. There is only one way out: the opening to the whole. Death is not outside of you as a reality; it is within what you are. It is not an absolute boundary because what you are has no limits. You have to be limitless, then the life that comes from the first cell that encloses itself in a membrane opens itself to the absolute

Physical pain is an engine of suffering. Same than emotional pain. If you feel maximum pain you will suffer. All your sistem is going to scream: stop the pain. But the pain won't stop. That's suffering. No because a rock is not a closed system that preserves itself, as life. It's another phase of reality Because they aren't alive. Being alive is another phase of reality that happens when a system that is self-preserving and self-organizing within a universe with laws creates its own differentiated framework of laws and separates from the main universe, being part but temporary a whole. The mind is a living being that arises in another living being, another phase of life, and as it is self preserved it suffer. The only way to relativize that suffering is the ability of the mind of dissolving it limitations and be one with the total. It still suffer, but in another frequency, much lower And the most conflictive point: mind is consciousness. The mind have to realize that consciousness is not essential. Absence of consciousness is same absolute than consciousness. The mind has letting go the consciousness, that's a difficult point Consciousness is the reality being aware of itself, in a dual configuration that register time. Reality is not consciusness, consciousness is the reality . Reality can't be said.

That's what I'm doing, but it doesn't resonate with anyone so what to do. 1 Suffering is inherent to life because life is a self-preserving system that needs to repair itself, avoid destruction, and strive for conservation and permanence. Suffering and desire are the energetic configurations that drive this process; without them, life would not be possible. 2 The distinction between physical and mental suffering is false; it is the same thing at a different frequency, since the mind is a real energy structure, as real as the body but in a different phase of existence. 3 Modern spirituality claims that the mind and the sense of self are illusions. This is false and only leads to spiritual bypassing. The ego-mind is a phase or qualitative leap in life, just as the difference between a bacterium or a multicellular being and between that being and a being with a brain and sensory organs is a phase leap. The ego-mind is an interface that creates synchronicity between individuals to reach new phases of existence. Reality leaps to new phases whenever possible. 4 If there is mental suffering, it's because something is misaligned in the complex energetic structure of the mind. Denying it as an illusion never works. At a certain point, the only path is the opening of the mind to its absolute nature. The mind is reality in a limited form. When the limitations are broken, the mind recognizes itself as the whole, and the fear of death ceases. The whole is not consciousness, nor a creator god; it is absolute reality and can't be said ot thought, and ultimately, you are that.

The mind is not an invention, it's the reality in a form. It's as real as a rock or as the body, it's a stable cloud of energetic process created by eons of evolution that lives. That idea of the non dualistic teacher is simplifying what's not simple to feel safe. I know well what deep mental suffering is and I know well how to finish it absolutely and sustained for years

If your broken leg hurts that produces suffering. Suffering means that you deeply want that things are different, and if your leg hurts enough you will wish very hardly that things are different . If you have chronic pain, it's a source of real suffering. The point there is that you are differentiating between the self and reality. The thing is that the self is reality. It is not an illusion that can be transcended; it is an energetic pattern that can be aligned. The self is a hyper-complex set of energetic patterns built over eons of evolution that has a coherent and real existence. The suffering of the self is no different from the suffering of the body in essence. Both are self-preservation mechanisms that compel actions to avoid destruction or optimize survival.

There is suffering, the categories are just misunderstanding what suffering is. What is suffering according to you?

I get upset by your advices like empty your cup and that because seems that you are placing in a superior position, like you are Budda telling easy obvious slogans of non duality, but of course, I shouldn't because that makes me automatically an idiot I know that of empty the cup, knowing nothing etc, I meditate a lot and I know perfectly the non dualistic teach and I tried a lot to practice them, as anyone who is serious in spirituality, then I realized their fundamental mistake that is the separation of the observer and the reality, I'm pointing that, and you haven't understood

Touche. I get triggered by his attitude, but thanks for pointing because that's not the way to analyze a teacher

All that is mind , I'm talking about the real thing, beyond the surface, if anyone understand, ok, if not ok too I just try, done.

Once I crossed north Atlantic sailing alone in winter in a destroyed sailboat to trascend the psychology a bit during a month, to put an example. I did a lot of training to see directly the root of fear and mental processes, to go beyond the structures. Another time I did 5 meo 20 days in a row , some of those days 4 times in one day full dose. Another time I went into west Africa alone in a very old motorcycle without phone and sleeping on ground most of days, another time etc etc etc etc etc during year after year. If you want to think that I'm in the superficial layer, ok

How "you" could stop "believing" anything? "You" are the belief. I don't believe anything, I'm absolutely free of that stuff, I see directly the movement and then I explain what I see, they are not mental structures

Deep post. Anyway, my point is more about analysis

It's not a belief, it's a reality which I understand deeply. All that stuff about beliefs is self-help . You are the manifestation that is happening, at the same time as you are the totality that is manifesting. They are not separate, they are one. You cannot separate yourself from thoughts or suffering or pleasure; separation is an appearance, it is creating a separate self. There is no separate self. Non-dualists like Ralston preach non-duality by creating absolute dualities.

The point is that Ralston places suffering on one side and you on the other. Then "you," whatever that is, are deciding whether or not to suffer. Things aren't like that. What you are isn't the deciding center, but rather the entire human energy complex that activates according to certain impulses, based on an evolutionary and social programming that creates real structures, neurological pathways as real as your bones. "You" can't decide not to suffer because you are that suffering.

That doesn't work. That's categorizing problems as those that justify suffering and those that don't, implying that suffering for A isn't legitimate but suffering for B is. Wrong. Suffering is suffering, and it's always a sign that something is wrong. If you're suffering terribly because you're second in your university promotion, you won't solve it by observing that suffering and letting it go, but by understanding your entire psychological structure and how and why it categorizes things, why you need to be number one, what triggers your emotional system, built in childhood, that compels you to do that and makes you suffer more than being burned with a hot iron. Its much more deeper.

You must dissolve the barriers that limit you and become limitless full-time. The only way to do this is to perceive your limitations and desire to dissolve them. It is very serious work that requires total will and total dedication, since these barriers are inherent to human beings; they are evolutionary energetic barriers created for the viability of complex life. What you must do is not trivial; it is a total conquest, a phase shift in what it means to be human, and no one can tell you how to do it. Only you can understand what limits you, and only you can intuit how to open those doors.