Breakingthewall

Th fact of existing is what remains when all constructs are putting aside, but it's nothing separate from the constructions because the constructions are. Being is the nature of the constructions. Body and mind as concepts are constructs. This doesn't mean that constructs are false or illusory; that's very confusing. It means that they are constructs that the psyche inevitably creates in its process of formation, just as the body creates cells and organs. The psyche is based on these constructs, which in turn are founded on an unyielding emotional system that compels you to draw absolute lines between good and bad. All the conceptual system that we create as a humans is a natural and inevitable function of what we are. Btw "consciousness" is a construction. "Fact of being" is also a construction but it's the minimal construction possible. Consciousness implies duality, even they say "pure empty consciousness" pure against polluted, empty against full....mess everywhere for confusing readers who believe: ohhhhh he's so holy, I also want pure empty shit. Call me adya. I'd say that the psyche is the identity between other factors like the idea of the group, what's good and bad, etc. Animals have not psyche or at least not symbolic psyche, have direct instinct to function in the world. We have learned psyche, and that psyche is as you say intertwined with identity because your life depends on it. It's a reality, if you are in some places and you say Muhammad is shit you will die, or if you see that you are very ugly you wont reproduce, this trigger emotional reactions because it's a reality, not an illusion.

The meaning of reality is being. This is absolute meaning, because being is everything. If you are open to what being is, you will see clearly that the meaning of reality is total. Sat chit Ananda, as the advaita say. Unbounded being that's is absolute joy in its unlimited freedom.

Why according to science reality should have an origin? Science uses the concept of infinite. For example many theories contemplate the possibility of infinite multiverses, another infinite rebounds, like the Penrose's theory, who got the Nobel prize some years ago.

Reality doesn't "come from", that's a paradox, then impossible. If reality come from it's something previous than reality, then reality would be secondary so not reality. That's why that explanation about dream is not logical, then not possible

the void is not origin because there is not void and after fluctuation, because there is not before and after. Time appears when change appears, then change is always and no change is never. This is logic, science can explain how time is not essential but relative to a system, same than space. There are logical deductions very twisted but still logical

This operational shift is called enlightenment, not because you understand something you didn't understand before, but because your operating system was previously entirely integrated with your social identity, making it dense and dull. Its source of functioning, of creativity, was this structure built throughout your life. When you manage to separate this structure, the act of being itself takes center stage; it becomes the source of functioning and creativity, illuminating the psyche because there is no longer a dense structure filtering it. That structure still exists, but as an operating system, not as the essential core of your being.

I think that those who don't ask themselves these questions are those who are comfortable in the self, those who can't even intuit that it's possible to free themselves from it, and those who wouldn't want to do so even if it were possible because they are totally focused on it. There are many of these latter types in spirituality; they use spirituality to elevate the self.

Id say that the self with all that it implies, its entire narrative and attachments, its emotional needs for validation, status, and position in society, it reveals itself as secondary or not essential, not illusory. That is, it continues to be perceived as real. You know you have a body that can be damaged and a social position that will affect your reality. You don't want people to run away from you, nor do you want to live in misery, but that's not your essence; it's your circumstance. You've detached it from your system. As you've said many times, the problem is that the normal thing is to replace it with another identity: God, soul, whatever. This happens because your psyche needs that identity to avoid collapsing; it's not something you can choose at will. That's why when you say that identity is an illusion, I say no, it's a structural reality of the psyche created by evolution, and to be free of it requires a profound change on several levels. When the self is detached it's seen as not essential. you still exist but essentially you are not a or b, essentialy you are, what you are is the fact of being, and circumstancially you are a person, etc. but this is not something that you see and that's it, it's something that happens when that detachment happens, then the self is seen as circumstancial. This is a fundamental difference, you can't tell someone: look, the self is illusion, when you see it, you are free. No, because the attachment are real when they are operating in his system.

Yeah im not in your religion, that's why it's not nice for you sharing point of views with someone who doesn't know your dogmas. I understand, I'm sorry if I offended your beliefs. Thanks for the offering, im not interested for now in your religion, still preferring direct view

What means that? The exposure of your level? . Boring. So boring.

For example this: If the void is not contained or bounded, it is impossible for it to remain in a stable, flat state eternally, because then it would be limited to a flat state without fluctuation. Fluctuation occurs because it is a possibility; it is a breaking of symmetry that unfolds in a coherent equation that ultimately results in zero, a cycle that begins at zero and ends at zero and starts again and unfolds In infinite possibilities.

Existence didn't spawn, just is. It's not paradoxical at all, it's absolutely inevitable and logical How do you know that?

Science don't ask why reality exist but how it operates

Yes, I already did. Reality is because there are not limits. No limits are not the cause or reality, are what reality is. Then reality never started, it hasn't a source because it would be a limit, it is and that's everything. There is zero paradox, absolutely logical.

Nothing doesn't exist except as an idea. There is not nothing, then there is not paradox

Because existence doesn't came from, it is because nothing limits it. It is not caused, just is. Absolutely inevitable

@Inliytened1 what paradox is real, for example?

Paradoxes are ideas that are not paradoxical as ideas since they exist, but what they describe cannot exist. That's why are paradoxes. Paradox means incoherence, and incoherence only exist as an idea, as a conceptual model.

Paradox doesn't exist, only lack of understanding. If you see a paradox means that you didn't understand the coherence of the system

Why? A self is totally logical, very simple. Where do you see a paradox?

There are not paradoxes, just lack of understanding . Why do you think that there are paradoxes?

He says that the foundation of reality is "spirit", and that its development always tends toward systems of greater complexity. He also says that consciousness is a fundamental property of reality. The contradictions would be: 1. This spirit he speaks of would be something with characteristics and will. This will would be greater complexity. From an absolute perspective, there is no possible "greater complexity," there must be infinite complexity flowing in local cycles of creation and destruction. There is no tendency toward nor a will, since there is no causal arrow except at the local level. 2 The spirit he speaks of already introduces an impossible paradox: a conscious being with will, but unlimited. Consciousness and will are limits. Consciousness and will are local; they cannot be absolute. In the absolute, there are zones not subject to will or consciousness. How many? Infinite. The only possible will is the inevitability of the absence of limits. The only possible consciousness is that which arises in complex, self-referential systems. The only possible "spirit" is the total fact of being, absolutely cleansed of any quality except being, which implies everything. For me the view of Wilber closes the mind in a defined idea of reality as an entity, and this prevent liberation. The point is that a conceptual frame that put any subtle barrier is a total closure.

I have points of view, if I expose them here isn't not to convince you it's to see how you debunk them by logic, if you can. To find contradiction and mistakes

Scared about what? He's interested in spirituality, the point is not a competition about who's right but refine our vision, contrast any paradigm to see if it stands or it's a mistake , of contains any mistake

You cry a lot but then saying nothing. If you read so much Ralston sure you could explain his view