Breakingthewall

Of course, it's the reality happening, I would call real to the reality. You are there, if you want to call it unreal to feel better it's your choice. But if anything is not real, then what is "real"?

I do since you equate fear and illusion. That means escapism. Like: this is just a dream, it's not happening. That's just a mental trick. Maybe you went through a very hard problems, but this attitude is evasion.

This is where you enter the realm of non-dualistic modern spirituality, and your reasoning completely collapses. Fear is not an illusion; it's an essential mechanism for the complex process we call life to be possible. If you're serious about spirituality, you have to confront fear for real. Not just "observing" it at home, but when death and ruin lurks. Then you'll see how illusory it truly is.

There are two types of people: those who observe reality to understand it, and those who do so to reinforce a self-image they need. You don't have to be Muslim, uneducated, or anything like that; you could be a Nobel laureate, but if you operate in defensive mode, you'll see all of reality through the filter of your absolute need for identity.

That's because you have the ingrained stereotype of the strong, protective man who faces the world head-on, versus the emotionally focused woman who provides support and love. This stereotype isn't inherently "bad," but women have been trapped in it and have had fewer rights than men because of it, and they've decided to break free from it, with both positive and negative consequences for them.

People hated the Jews because they lived in their country and were much richer, more powerful, and more educated, and moreover, they didn't want to mix with them under any circumstances. They intermarried and helped each other, but within the framework of another culture.

Gypsies are just as tribal, and nobody cares about them. Jews are hated for a much more obvious reason: because they gain access to real power, they pull the strings in the societies where they settle. They don't put on entertaining dance and circus shows; they dominate finance, the media, then the politics. So, in the end, there's usually an antisemitic movement, like the one that might emerge in the US if Operation Epic Ridiculous continues down its seemingly inevitable path.

The problem is the other way around. It's men who don't want to enter into serious relationships with women because they don't want a tyrant with absurd ideas about life constantly complaining that things aren't the way she wants them to be and demanding that the man be the emotional support for her unstable mind in exchange for the dubious privilege of having a secure emotional bond with a narcissist.

How could you be not afraid if you are afraid?

@Someone here What you're talking about is a good level of meditation. What you're doing is real meditation, opening yourself to what is now. But let's see, when you say that there's emptiness inside you if thoughts stop, that can be nuanced. When the mind stops completely and you perceive yourself as a process unfolding now, at a certain point reality loses its dual dimension, "inside you," "your thoughts." There is no longer an inside or outside, no limits restricting anything. Then you are floating in the abyss that is this moment, and at a certain point, you are this moment, without any interpretation or barrier, completely clear, pure. When you can reach this point naturally, that's when it gets difficult, at least for me. In this absolute moment, there is one last barrier. Poetically speaking, your heart is closed, and it is because you are afraid, because you cling to the fact of being you, to the control of what is. The challenge is to open yourself, to let go of that last control, to break free from form and be pure substance without restrictions. This is enlightenment, nothing less. It is access to the Tao, to the source, and you cannot think or remember, you can only be now. It's not "nothing ", it's unlimited, it's everything. Then the door closes up, and you perceive the closure in you, in your body, in your heart, but anyway you can't open it. A lot of adjustments must be done to align yourself, at least it's what I feel, what I'm doing, the path that I choose

Look clown , seems that there are not moderators in this forum, just I'm asking you to go out of this thread. I think you are a disgusting clown and would be nice if you disappear from here with your annoying narcissism. Could you be so kind? Im asking you very politely, don't you think so? Then start another thread to show how smart you are.

The human nature makes those walls inevitable. Survival is a must, it's atavistic, not a silly mistake of the ego. Go through those walls requires facing your deepest fears and go through them. It's an interesting exercise, over all because the other option is madness. If we were in a society with a purpose, then we could make that purpose our guide and work hard for the group, but we are in the society of the no sense, no purpose, just hedonism, comparison, madness. Then there is no choice

Ok, you are very brilliant, so special. Everyone already know it. Then rest a bit and go to another thread

Anyone knows that metaphor, maybe you think it's very brilliant. Better explain the process

Because they perceive that life, reality, can't be this limited frame. Your intuition tells you that you are prisoner, but you don't know exactly how . Then you start reading spirituality, but it's contradictory, narcissistic and very bad explained. Most of authors are seducers, who's successful as a "guru" is who seduces the seekers. Then you think: if I stop my thoughts I will be free, and you start meditation as a violent effort to control your mind. A very stressful and annoying exercise. But if you are tenacious, little by little you start to perceive the processes that are happening in you, the process that you are, the depth of your movement, then it becomes a passion, you spend hours and hours in it, doing all the psychedelics that exist again and again, breaking your mind in all it's possible dimensions, until you start to know yourself Then you perceive that if you break the last frontier you will find the absolute

@oOo you are wasting a lot of energy for nothing. Don't you realize that James just want to appear enlightened to appear special or better? He's not going to read anything that you say, just answering to place himself above you. This forum is 90% this sterile exercise, but it's interesting because shows what spirituality use to be, what's the real motivation of the "gurús"

Start a new thread, this is to talk about meditation and spirituality.

I said something with value: that you are someone who talks with the sole purpose to appear smart.

You sound smart , impressive. Say more things to sound smart if it makes you happy. The person who thinks that his mental state is limited.

You could say that the reality is you, because it's obvious that you are the reality manifested in a local process. The point is not knowing that but being open to what you are, what is you nature. This is a subjective perception, like any other perception, but that's doesn't mean it's false. If you perceive yourself without any limit, you will say: yes! Alleluia! This is what I am, it's absolutely obvious, it's not something, it's unlimited and this implies everything , this is the end of the lack , the opening to the inexhaustible source, the bottomless abyss that is what you are. The biggest bullshit is that perception is an illusion. Perception is the reality perceiving itself. The perception can be closed or open. If it's totally open, the reality perceives itself in its nature. You are the reality now, not another, not any illusion When spira, Ralston , etc , talk about the realization of the nature of the reality, they are talking about a mental realization, like, you stop thinking that you are American, a human, etc, then THIS is what you are. No, they are just in a meditative state like mindfulness and as they have the psychological need of being enlightened, they are identifying with enlightenment. That's spirituality nowadays, total absence of depth. Enlightenment is absolute depth. When you are totally free of any identification, is when the real game starts. The game that @Grateful Dead have played that include go through the absolute nihilism. Most of people will grab any idea of god because they don't like that horror. You have to be absolutely naked of everything, absolutely humble, accepting the possibility that reality is dead emptiness and be one with this emptiness.

Perhaps consider that all these thoughts are an impulse to real meditation, and what is an obstacle is speaking from the need of appear special. Real humility is needed for this work.

I understand what you're saying. I was commenting on it mainly because modern spirituality, like Spira, Mooji, Ralston, and non-dualists in general, say: you are consciousness. You are the screen where forms appear, not the forms themselves (quite dualistic for a non-dualist). They say: enlightenment isn't something special, it's simply realizing the nature of reality, which is consciousness. This is completely and obviously, let's say impossible. If reality is consciousness, what are the forms that appear in consciousness? Dreams. And who dreams them? Consciousness. So, is consciousness not just consciousness, but an entity that produces dreams? They'll say: don't get confused, let it go, forget the mind, you are consciousness. Ah, so I forget the mind except to know that I am consciousness? Yes! You're enlightened now. Well, no. Enlightenment is being open to that which has no limits, to what is, which is what you are. Not knowing what reality is. That what has no limits, and having not limits is, is not a screen nor something trivial; it is the source, the Tao, the light, the life, and the total glory of being without limits. These are subjective statements, of course, but not therefore false.

Ok, but the ego is not only your human identity, thoughts, but the primal fear to dissolution that is programmed in the human psyche. The identity is it's manifestation Then we are speaking the same language (what is very rare). The dead void is the last door, there is a very subtle movement, a shift where the void opens and reveals itself as the unlimited that is. This is the movement that I'm talking about and that is so difficult to do for me. I think it's something that happens when your psychological structure is aligned in some way. If it happens now, and you are open to the unlimited for example during one week, but then in some moment it's closed again, very fast you will forget that reality and you will start to think that was a fantasy to scape of the obvious nihilist void that reality is. Exactly, nothing in life worths more that this. Without this openess anything is just suffering, at least for me. Every human has a closed structure in some degree, there is always a great work to do to align yourself enough to allow the openess.

Also a mind that doesn't deceive itself to feel better

You could say that awareness knowing is included in reality arising, but not the opposite, then if you say that reality is awareness you are making a closure. Just my opinion, because all the authors talk about consciousness and that. I see it as a very obvious mistake, but who knows If there is fear you could identifícate With it or not that there is still fear. If you are in silence, that of be what you are or not has no meaning. There is fear, period. If you think that this fear is not you, you are introducing an enormous structure of thoughts that implies that the fear could be you or not, then the notion of "you". If there is no mental activity, you or not you means nothing, but fear means everything. The idea that if the thoughts stops the mind is free is not real.