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@Rafael Thundercat @Rafael Thundercat Be your couple must be a relaxing dream in paradise

This is not a war, there are no combats, it's a chess game, and Iran wins. If there were a real war Iran would be devastated, but they will ruin the world.

Was just after the 8 October, in that moment the mind of many, mine also, entered in a state of threat and violence. Btw I didn't say that Iran would fall quickly, maybe I said that due Israel and EEUU declared the war, most probably is that mosad and CIA have planned a regime change, and as they are so smart probably it will happen, but it didn't happen. Then , it's like a football trainer, if he wins, he's a winner, if he loses he's a loser, that's life.

@Rafael Thundercat My attitude isn't to place myself above the OP, but to add an analytical perspective to the emotional one, with which I agree. I don't like that human life is a well of suffering and frustration, but it is. I could start crying and cursing how horrible all human misery is, or try to accept it for what it is, a currently unavoidable reality. Perhaps the problem lies with you, seeing in others intentions of status and submission that you are projecting.

Did you take the medicine today? Maybe you have forgotten

I talk to try to make conversation with intelligent and open minded people to share ideas

I just observe how humans act and I try to understand how it works. Being angry about it is an hindrance. It's like if we talk about Gengis kahn and we need to be very angry with Gengis because he kills millons of people.

Sure, lot of people is full of suffering, disconnected, sad, seeking connection and belonging in fragile relationships, spending their energy on jobs they don't feel are essential or authentic. Getting out of this is very difficult because humanity functions as a whole, and what takes precedence is the functioning of the whole, not the happiness of individuals. There are eight billion gears on the wheel. What matters is that the wheel turns; that's the law of life. The gears are used until they break.

That's religion, that will trap you. The point is empty your mind. Then we can elaborate concepts clean of any influence, direct from the observation. Where did you observed a true I and a body mind projected? Now you could say: you tell this but before you wrote a brunch of concepts. Where is the difference?

I didn't mean precisely infanticide but violence in general I didn't say half truth but 95% truth because I mean that lions fight to death. Maybe they don't die but they try to kill, and about one male mating with the females of two brothers, that's the same in the point that we are talking

Nothing is the absence of manifestation, the absence of movement, change, fluctuation. As there is not a substance that changes but just relative change of state due the impossible stability of the absence of limits, that provokes the fact that you are. But you are not the change, you are the absence of limits. What can't be thought.

Lions fight to the death all the time to see who's the alpha male who gets to mate with all the females. When a stronger one comes along, he kills or drives out the previous male and kills the females' cubs so they'll breed his offspring, not that of its enemy. That's the way life is. It's no wonder humans have that inside too

We have no fear to the truth, we have fear to death, because it's in our genetic code from the bacteria in the origins of life. Trillions of generations choosing the one who fights, fear death and desire life

Then why did you choose to put that video of Krishnamurti?

EEUU bet everything to the regime change , as a reckless drunken gambling addict, the regime didn't fall and lost the bet. All the experts said: the regime won't fall, the war will be a disaster. But they did it anyway. Bibi led them into his game and they lost, but Bibi doesn't lose. Now they'll say they've won, that they've destroyed many missiles, but what they've done is demonstrate impotence and Iran power. Iran can destroy the economy. Who has more to loose?

This is just a mess, forget about anything and look your fear. Sit in silence, stop the mind and feel your fear. It's in the mind, in the body, in your movement, in your cells, in your breath. Forget about doer, responsibility, troubles or anything, just feel your fear. The primordial fear that keep you imprisoned in a bubble of separation. Don't hide that fear, let it manifest in the surface. Then you will see that ultimately it's fear to dissolution . Stare the dissolution, without mind. Not the idea, but the real death. Accept if on real, without seconds ideas. Stare the black hole and disappear in it. Do this as often as you can, with of without psychedelics, and enlightenment will come.

Yes you would reach the inevitable conclusion that any manifestation is relative change. We are talking about understanding not about knowing

I just told you something obvious because you said that your guru said that life is impossible to understand and it's possible and easy. Anyway, the point isn't to understand, but to open yourself to the whole, to break free from the contraction. It's also simple to explain but very difficult to do. I think it's important to know exactly what it is because otherwise you end up on dead ends.

What kind of societies were those? Perhaps small, isolated clans, operating in survival mode. The moment a society becomes established, competition arises; it's the law of life. Competition between species, individuals, groups. Competition is deadly, and that's where all the trouble begins.

In north America there were tribes who didn't practice agriculture, just hunting and collecting, same than paleolithic, and they were brave warriors who kidnapped women , kill enemies and chase slaves. Of course women have some voice and power, in some tribes in Canada women elected the chiefs, but chiefs are men, and men had several wifes and captured slaves.

Life is very easy to understand: reality manifests as change, fluctuation, because changeless is no manifestation. Fluctuations group into possible patterns. Life is a pattern that self-preserves, repairs itself, and in doing so evolves. The possible combinations are limitless, and you, being human, are one of them. Forms originate and disappear eternally because nothing can limit them. Any form is total reality manifesting as form. Being human, there is consciousness, perception, the awareness of change. This perception can turn back to that which does not change, to the totality, and recognize itself. As a human, you are an eye that observes change but can also observe itself and recognize what it is. What is is the totality, the abyss without bottom, but above all, it is you, not another. When you look at yourself, the observer and the observed are one. It is not a "normal" experience, as Spira or Ralston say; it is a brutal experience, as Al-Hallaj or Christ say. You are the reality, and you can be fully aware of it without the slightest doubt, then you will see something like obvious that for some reason was veiled to you, your mind will expand without limit, you will cry, say alleluia and that, and a while later you will be in dense state again and you won't remember what exactly was that. But if you do many times, little by little your structure will reconfigure, the contraction will release and the totality will transparent itself full time in your experience, then the psychological is little by little erased and the absolute will little by little look through your eyes.

It's history. All human groups practiced war. Not punctual but as a norm. Where war is there is slavery, genocide and rape. Why do you think that the south Americans crossed the jungles from the north? Because they loved exploration? No, because others displaced them. Others who would kill them all if they don't scape. Genocide is the norm, it's the way of life to evolve.

There have been some matriarchal societies, exceptions. The norm is patriarchal because men use violence. In fact, war used to be considered the most sacred activity. Native Americans, Mongols, Celts, Vikings, pre-Roman Germanic tribes, Zulus, Maori, Jivaro, Arabs, were all violent, captured slaves, and were masters of their women. thats normal where war is endemic, and war is endemic where humans are

Spirituality is changing the direction of your focus. Instead of looking outward, you look inward. Outside is the relative world, with all its challenges. Inside is the absolute, hidden by atavic energetic barriers, created over the eons of evolution. Spirituality means facing those barriers and open them.

In small communities on nature, such as those of Native Americans before colonialism, women were sold. Men were the absolute masters of women and were also warriors who could cut off your nose or kill you for any trivial reason. Women from other tribes were kidnapped, separated from their children, and enslaved by their captors. Men were also enslaved, and the most entertaining pastime was the torture of prisoners