Breakingthewall

Yeah but why the word truth?

Yeah, good conversation, just to say that it's not about knowing that you are god, you are conciousness, anything, it's about to break the limits now, remove the you from the equation because you are a blocker. All the spiritual work is just do this.

more than genetics it is the configuration of the pattern that forms the experience that you are. from genetics to each imprint that each event that has occurred in your life has left. but the key is what you said: real, complete integrity. the more integral you can be, the more likely it is that the opening will happen. true integrity needs a forge. you must have gone through certain flames

Not for me, but maybe I'm wrong, but in the absence of limits there is everything. You are not one, one is an ego projection. I'd say that God is an ego projection, for example, to say god is bored and he wanted to have a human experience is just an ego projection

Ok agree , but it's like a misunderstanding. You can't be scared to be alone of limitless, because if the limits get broken, the you dissapears. It's like epicure said: If I'm here, death is not, if death is here, I am not.

I think it's different. Alone is opposite to not alone. Just break the limits and let the reality flow. Letting go the need of grasping, because if you do that, you are automatically putting limits. Then, in some moments the self can be dropped Its scary because we are relative, so we don't exist in absence of another thing to be related.

We are talking in a practical sense, anyway, To say that God is alone and that he hides this fact because it is difficult for him to accept is as far from reality as possible. is to anthropoformize. reality is the absence of limits, all that loneliness is limited, none of that is real, only apparent. In short, You are not the reality, you are just a limited fiction. Remove the you, and reality remains. The only thing that you can say about reality is: absence of limits. You can't describe reality in positive because it's absolute, you can become absolute, but not think in it, because thinking is contrasting

God or the reality is not someone. It's not you. You are a fiction. When you dissolve the self, just the infinite ocean remains. What you are is not the you.

There are only two states at the end. the finite state that we are almost always in even with psychedelics and meditation, and the infinite state that is enlightenment. spirituality is about dropping the relative mind, letting go, breaking the limits and becoming infinite. then come to this forum to comment the thing, because who else could talk about this?

Im not explaining the reality, What I do is try to find mental formulas that help to dissolve the mind, it's something difficult to achieve, subtle, the mind takes hold. Since I spend all day with it, even though I'm doing other things, I comment here my impressions. simple human need for communication I didn't say negative, I said relative

You confuse ego with god in my opinion. things are more complicated, because reality is infinite. you have to drop the ego, totally. merge it with the ocean. and not once but on a daily basis, and not just on psychedelics but sober, and then you begin to understand. I, the relative self that is infinite reality but manifests as a self in opposition to what is not self, dissolves and realizes what it is: impersonal ocean of existence. This is total freedom, you will be smiling for an hour. The ocean of existence is not alone, alone it's just a relative concept, isn't it obvious?

Thats not enlightenment imo. Becoming conscious implies a you doing something. Unless I didn't understand what did you mean. Could you explain what is enlightenment for you? You made interesting points

It's ego always I think. Over all when the people say: you are alone. Complete confusion. in the phrase "you are alone" each of the words can be translated as: relative. They are not able to get out of the relative, their self resists everything, they do not let it fall. Spirituality is just let the self fall.

If with experience you mean to exist, I agree, existing is absolute, but the experience is what is happening. Would you call experience to be undifferentiated, without movement or change? I don't think it's the right word. But you are not alone if you become absolute because there is not you. It's obvious because "I" is something in opposition of "other" . If you become infinite, the I dissolves , and if it dissolves ,there is no one, or loneliness. If there is, is because the I is still there. The I is a creation, is relative.

Experience is relative. the absolute is not experience, experience is something that happens, to happen it has to go from one point to another, something that goes from one point to another is in relation to reference points, therefore, it is relative. absolute is without reference points, therefore it does not move. movement is illusory, it is relative. Therefore, the experience is illusory. and you are not alone, because being alone is relative to being accompanied. the absolute is absolute, it is not alone, nor is it one, nor two, nor love, nor intelligence, nor god, it is absolute, and that's it. It cannot be anything because if it were something it would be relative. infinity is beyond all you can say about it, you have to become it, dropping the self completely. If you are realizing the infinity, it's because you didn't drop the self. You have to be it. Subtle difference.

Yeah, As you have said before, complete clarity brings with it the disappearance of suffering, since this is confusion and attachment. Here is the problem, and as we have already seen. operate from memory is a mistake. we have to avoid doing it if we want to move forward. The most obvious mistake possible is to have a clarity experience with psychedelics and then conceptualize it and arrive at conceptual premises that you call "the truth". This is so basic that it shouldn't be necessary to mention it, and yet...

time is apparent, it is the main component of experience, it is the difference between two points of reference, the same as movement. in infinity there is no time because there is no variation, it is infinite, it contains all possible variation, so there is no possible movement, it is immutable because you cannot add or subtract anything from it. the experience is the appearance of movement, of something that happens, this happens creating limits. Since in infinity you really can't create limits, you can't divide it in two because the two parts are the same, the limits are only apparent. then, there really is no time, no limits, no experience, it just seems so. So, what is "before", the absolute or the appearance? really only infinity is and appearance only appears to be, but let's say it appears to be "after"

reality develops, it creates itself out of nothing, it is a true work of art. Imagine the empty nothingness, a seed that contains all the rules of this universe explodes. and from there, combinations, movement, testing, development, and at one point something like the human brain exists. pretty impressive right? when before there were only a few atoms combining. it is infinity creating wonders, beauty, art. the problem is that it seems that this universe has some baselines in which every ying has its yang. every dream has its part of nightmare. every creation implies its destruction. Detachment is a must to appreciate the art.

It's very different, they don't look alike at all. What I am looking for with 5meo is not insight, it is to break the experience and for the immensity to manifest itself, and over all, become the limitless, without an I who realize the infinity, just be the infinity. it is like turning off the energetic patterns that are making up this experience and leaving nothing. limitless. but I would say that each person has a different effect. what I look for when breaking the pattern is not to understand what this is, it is to let go. Like a meditative exercise. lsd makes you perceptive, many things are seen clearly, and sometimes reality opens up, the conceptual mind shuts down, and you are, like a plant, without a filter. Pure joy.

I don't compare, I just said that it's better to have some breakthrough with 5 meo before to start with lsd, over all if you have a complicated psyche. 5meo changes your energy configuration, makes it lighter, less dense, then on LSD trips it is easier to get out of negative loops

@KatiesKarma If were you, I wouldn't touch LSD until I've done several breakthroughs with 5meo dmt. lsd in your state lsd will only bring you nightmares. 5 meo is what you need, to break from within your entire energy structure several times. later, you can start with lsd, mushrooms, weed.

Yeah, but if you realize the absolute, of what you are, you realize that suffering is relative and it slips away. then it can be said that there is no more suffering. there is only suffering if you identify with the relative, which is the experience, if you identify with the absolute, there is no suffering. but of course, for that you first have to realize the absolute.

life is basically effort

Great, it means that you have genuine intuition. you are perceiving falsehood unconsciously. when you talk about god you are talking about an acquired idea, something far from the truth.

to get out of suffering you have to realize your true nature, which is absolute, and that your experience is relative. suffering always exists, it is a mechanism that keeps the experience active, but if you realize that it is relative, you suffer, but relatively. the difference is drastic