Breakingthewall

For me the mystery is this, what is beyond is the infinity, and it's very obvious, the real thing. But this appearance of multiplicity is the true mystery. realizing the absolute infinity is something wonderful, liberating, awakening. but what is the mechanics of this? why this appearance? this mirage? I can't say same as Socrates, because I know something. I know that reality is absolute infinity, and that's what I am. but I don't understand how it works. and it can be understood. my intelligence is infinite, it just needs to be released

The confusion that we all have is due to the concreteness and full of meaning of the experience that is occurring where there is perceiver and perceived. Today I tried to understand this with a moderate dose of mushrooms, 2 gr, enough for me to go in and out of ego death several times. once the illusion of a me as opposed to a non-me to which things happen is dissolved, reality is seen to be unlimited flow. in that flow this appearance is created. For what? I don't know. in this appearance it is impossible not to think in self/other terms, so when the appearance dissolves and there is no duality, and then it is created again, the interpretation is extremely misleading. For example, now I'm thinking, let's see, if reality is infinite flow, as i just realized , does the guy from the forum I'm talking to have any other experience? this is absolutely misleading, impossible to understand, since we think about it from the mirage of duality. I think that we have to dismantle many times the illusion to start understand. For now the only coherent though is: my experience is the absolute. Nothing else exist.

It's not just "feeling", it's analysis. Tolle never claimed that he understands the ultimate reality, he just has glimpses, and he admits his limitation. Adya claims he's "enlightened", he understands everything, or there is nothing to be understood, or communicated because the tao can't be spoken bla blah. And in my opinion, adya don't understand what reality is. He never realized the infinity. So he's fooling himself, he is a fake, even he thinks he realized the infinity. But this analysis could be wrong, of course.

Was just a foolish, but anyway, there is a big business in the spirituality, and we the humans are very corrupted. My feeling is that Tolle is integral, and adya is fooling himself and others. Same as my feeling is that you are totally integral.

Yeah but sounds less fake than adyashanti ?. As you said, no one is useful after certain point, just an approach to spirituality

Maybe I'm wrong, i just read a book, and he said things like: one day I reached enlightenment, suddenly a different being took possession of my body and I took my first steps. the 25 years of meditation I did have nothing to do with this. That day I changed my name. When I was a child, many people felt uncomfortable when I looked at them because through my eyes I looked at the absolute...give me the money. I don't even remember the rest of the book because it didn't say anything to me. Maybe he has many valuable things.

You are so condescending ?. What i meant it's not about Tolle helps me or not to feel better. It's about Tolle is genuine understanding, maybe understanding for retarders, but understanding, and adya is pure bullshit, starting for his name, and finishing because he don't say nothing, just , I'm so sacred.

Everything is in your mind, nothing else exist. It's quite simple. You are the absolute.

What is aware is just me, the absolute. It's obvious, but the thing is to dive deeper, understand the beauty.

Be human is a hard challenge, no doubt about this. It is a puzzle that seems impossible to solve, but it must be done. reality challenges itself. The solution is to be selfless. But it's very difficult because the essence of being human is to be selfish. About the solipsism, there is an obvious point that does not need much explanation: never, in any case, in all the eternity of existence, you will be able to leave your pov. if you "go out", that will be your pov. always your pov . so your pov is absolute. No need to review it again. dive in your pov, there is nothing else. only inside exists. outside is not a possibility.

Yes man, i know that. But Tolle doesn't pretend teach anyone nothing about god, just to minimize suffering. Just an introduction, he doesn't claim to be god realized, just that's he's living in the now ,that's the reality, aka god, btw. But yes , i know that it's just an introductory, maybe superficial, approach. In my opinion, nobody can teach god realization to anyone without 5 meo. 5 meo is the main teacher, but your orientation is very welcome too. Even necessary if you want.

For me one is authentic, the other a seducer. but when there are many millions at stake, it is very difficult to know for sure

One of the things I've noticed with spirituality is the appreciation and feeling for music. Before I never listened, now all day, of all genres. I had never listened to classical music and the other day I listened Beethoven's 9th symphony. amazing life force, you get lost in it.

Not exactly that. Rather backwards. You always ve been searching the truth, but you didn't realized it . what you call pleasure is a search for truth, but an ineffective search. the drug addict seeks the truth, the miser, the rapist, the sadist. everyone is lost looking for the truth, for the love they lost.

is as if you were configured by energy channels. many of these channels are folded in on themselves, they do not flow. you have to straighten them, they have to be arrows to infinity, not mazes with no exit. you have to free yourself. there is no exterior and interior, only energetic configuration. you have to do some serious work with psychedelics, otherwise you're just going to wallow in your misery year after year.

Being awake or not has many definitions. what leo says is the total understanding of existence. You are not awake and neither am I. just wetting the tip. but there is another definition of awakening, realizing, and becoming, what you really are: the infinite total absolute. Hallelujah. yihaaaaaa. yesss. Me. Me. Me. Me. awake. Im awake. I'm the existence. im the totality, the magic, the wonder, the infinite love that flows and dances with itself. what is the problem of this awake? It only works while it's happening. The door is closing. the work is to keep it open as much as possible. the door closes because...yeah, okay, the wonderful infinity, but what the hell is this fucking human being? Full of imperfection and fighting since i was born? then you lose it. it is very difficult to understand! But little by little the understanding is opening Good luck in your next trip. No fear, just go deep. push until the door opens. behind is infinity. the jackpot. You. Me.

Big difference, one is an introduction to spirituality that has reached millions, he explains the ego mind very well, the other is Neo advaita fake

spirituality tells you that you are creating your suffering and that it does not depend on the external and this is false imo. you are also the external. spirituality, heavily influenced by Buddhism, tells you that you must isolate yourself, become indifferent, turn off your impulses. but you are a human among humans. you need your community. If this community is, for example, that they make you a slave and force you to work with a whip, the boss rapes your girlfriend and they sell your children, you will suffer. If you rebel against this and your life is war, torture and murder, as it has been for millions, you will suffer. these are extreme cases, before them there are many shades of suffering. To get out of suffering you must modify the environment because you are the environment. you are a hive entity, not an individual. To end suffering you must create an adequate environment, modify the exterior, change places, jobs, people. I said before that suffering is the difference between what it is and it should be, and should be is imaginary. But it is is imaginary too. Both are imaginary and real same time. To match them you have to move both, if not, the harmony will be extremely difficult what is possible is to accept your suffering. you still suffer but you don't fight against it. is part of reality

Yes , ok, but osho said things. Btw, Osho had a philosophy, be free, a rebel, etc. adyashanti for me, mostly he says I translate into: I am in a sacred level (i tell you humbly)

Of course, it's the enormous sadness that being human means. your nephew is attached to his mother because he is attached to unity, but human life is fragmentation. From now on, his existence will consist of more and more separation, until he reaches the depressing desert that we call adult life, where an enigma will be proposed to him: where is the love that you lack? In that maze there are many false doors, and it is very easy to choose one of them. even though the appearance is brilliant, there is only suffering in them, and your nephew will 99.999% end up in one of them and no one can convince him otherwise until his death. human life is hard

gesundheit is a great guy. It's a pleasure to have him here, a quality guy

Understanding is for example to understand that everything is infinite. but really understand it, beyond ideas. a hydrogen molecule is infinite. everything is. this exact moment is the absolute. there is no cosmos and essence, there is infinity, and it is this. you have to remove any label and see directly. understand what this is. it is, as it were, a dream, but not exactly, because there is no dreamer. the hydrogen molecule is god. the beauty of what we are is maximum, to see it you have to free your mind completely. think in terms of absolute/cosmos, it's a chain

Eckhart Tolle seems a genius to me for the concrete, simple and direct way he has of transmitting his thing. clean, clear, perfect. He reaches millions people, a revolution. He explains the ego, he has made the world understand something fundamental the one I like the least is adyasanti. He almost says something, almost. but he says nothing. Seems pure marketing to me

What do you mean? That adult life is grey? It depends, the range of possibilities is very wide

Suffering is the dissonance between what is and what should be. Since the second does not exist, it could be said that suffering does not exist either, but the anxious energy that exists between the two feels very real.