Breakingthewall

I don't know what is in Ralston mind, For me enlightenment is to completely break form, limitation, and become unlimited, and then realize the true nature of existence. There is no word that defines this, but if you want to call it metaphysical love, ok. But it is obvious that if you completely transcend the form, what remains is not something explainable or conceptualizable, it is total infinity. the true nature of existence. that is enlightenment. After this, if you want to explore the possibilities of existence, it is something absolutely interesting, but awakening, with capital letters or not, is one: infinite. You cannot say that I am deceived because I do not say anything definite that could be a deception, it is an obvious realization, something that is always there, what the absence of limits is.

I don't say that you are wrong, just you could explain what is wrong, or what should be transcended in enlightenment, not just saying: enlightenment is stupid. What is enlightenment according you? Why is limited?

A brief psychotic break due to extreme experiences is normal, but reality is not psychotic, it is completely sane, because sanity just means aligned with reality. insanity is a human mental deviation of evasion. if the levels of consciousness are infinite as you say, there are no levels higher than others, there can only be more or less alignment, more or less distortion. Enlightenment is being completely aligned with reality, it is not stupidity, it is human evolution. So, if you are an explorer who wants to reach the source of the nile of consciousness, without caring about the dangers, perfect, admirable, but why disqualify everything else? It is not necessary, and not accurate, it's a misunderstanding . Enlightenment is one thing, exploring another. Both could be , and should be compatible. If you explore the conciousness without being aligned, seems that it's sure you are going to follow dangerous and probably wrong paths

I have always thought that you were pointing to something never seen before, but your attitude again and again points to a kind of psychotic break. Since you seem an extremely smart person, the fact that you seem extremely stupid lately makes me think of some kind of strategy, a game, and that at some point something great will come up... but then, again and again just vagueness, negativity, self-aggrandizement... Why not explain yourself thoroughly and transparently at once? Or is there really nothing to explain? enigma. Why destructively disqualify traditions like Buddhism without giving even the slightest explanation of what is wrong with Buddhism? or repeat over and over again that enlightenment is stupid without even explaining what enlightenment is and why it is stupid? There are many people watching. Is your intention to appear senile? Why?

The answer is simple: break your limits.

Everything you say makes sense to you but it doesn't to me. I know the way to approach the reality that you adopt, the dream, God, etc. It's just an approach, reality is reality, we agree, right? Approaches are just mental frames that help us communicate ideas. Well, the approach: God is imagining reality, seems wrong to me. There is no god doing anything, nor hiding anything, nor playing hide-and-seek with himself, there is infinity flowing. This is my realization. There is no subject or object, no actor or action, there is reality. Calling it a dream doesn't make any sense to me. If that is my realization, I simply communicate it. do not get defensive as if a heretic attacks your dogma, simply refute what you consider wrong Btw, Try to see how much is truly original in your vision and how much is adopted from ideas heard. Imagine that your mind is totally blank of spiritual concepts. What would be your vision of reality?

then forget the word dream. when you dream at night, you are not dreaming, there is no night, no dreamer, just reality happening, the same as during the day, you call it a dream because you have the idea that you went to sleep and dreamed, the same as when Leo He says that reality is imaginary, God dreaming. the imaginary is god. the reality is this, now

Yes, you need to twist logic to explain that reality is love, because first you have to define what love means, and then affirm that absolute reality is specifically that, but of course, it is not normal love, but mystical love, so what is it? mystical love? wake up and find out for yourself , etc

Yes, I already read that Leo says that enlightenment is illusory. Then you did a clumsy and basic argumentation to show that you reached the same conclusion by yourself.

Dude, you are a pathetic guy who is only here to show superiority. It is normal, since many have this attitude in this forum , so it is logical that people with weak personalities come here to express the same attitudes and thus reinforce their ego in a pathetic way, but it is frustrating for those of us who try to make serious contributions.

You are a joke. Just a troll. I hope that you don't really believe that you are "enlightened" or anything, because your mental health could be on risk. If you are just a troll, it's ok, if not, be careful

Man, love is just a word. Any word is a concept, any concept has a meaning just because it has an opposite. Reality is absolute, so non conceptual because has not an opposite, no word can define it

This paragraph shows me without any doubt that you write just to appear smart, without any content.

Really? How? Explain. Where is my comment that make you realize that?

You are very arrogant. We already have one with this attitude, we don't need a crew. How do you know that I don't experience those full non dual states? Well, probably you are a troll

So why do you use the word love?

Nobody contradicts that. there is simply the appearance of limits, and limits create the appearance of a self. Many of those who say they are awakened reach mystical states with psychedelics in which they replace the everyday self with the great self they call God, and enter messianic delusions. Awakening is the breaking of limits, realizing your true nature: total reality, impersonal, unlimited and free. Ant it brings an energetic change. many people don't like this, they need the super sayan level, because they prefer to keep the self, greedy attitude that bring suffering

To say that everything is love is nonsense, because if everything were love, you couldn't contrast love with anything else, so love would not be anything definable, then it would not be "love", it would be reality, so the only possible definition is: reality is reality

There is something in your reasoning (and Leo's) that I see as wrong. When reality is said to be a dream, this implies an agent, an act and a result. This is not real, reality is simply the absence of limits. Since there are no limits, everything is, that's it. It's not a dream, why use the word dream? nor is there anyone dreaming, there is an absence of limits being. You are not a mind, you are absence of limits, nothing more, totally impersonal, without the need for a mind or an actor acting.

For example, an experience from someone who never was interested In spirituality, an stract from the Michel hulin book I sat on the bed to look through the large window, right in front of me, and watched from there the lights reflecting on the narrow muddy streets of that small city. I was thinking about how Charles Lamb liked the clarity of the streetlights on the wet cobblestones, when suddenly a haze of a blue-white color, translucent, brilliant, stole this world and every experience of being there that I had from my eyes. With the mist came an ineffable peace and joy (...). You can barely describe an experience in which you are swept away into... into what? Something that I had never read about, that I had never meditated on, whose existence I had never known, in the same way that a child, before being born, cannot understand a description of this world. The mist grew denser, and as it grew deeper, the knowledge, the comfort, the radiance, the peace, in a word, the ecstasy, deepened equally, until "I" seemed to be "It" and "It" That" seemed to be "I." We were confused, mixed, fused... All of me was consciousness, awakening, and yet, when I came to, there was nothing to tell. When I was immersed, I was in everything that has been, was and will be; Now I realize that the human being measures space and time, nothing is before or after, but simultaneous, everything is there. Suddenly, the mist, the light, disappeared just as they had arisen. I was still sitting on my bed, clutching the sheet, with my eyes wide open, looking at the street lights. My first thought was: "Good! Underneath everything there is this calm, this joy, this security...". Then a curious thing happened to me. I looked at the outside world through the window, I felt the furniture in my room and I said to myself: "How strange, this world is a shadow. I have touched the Real and what is always "there"; all this world that I knew will from now on be unreal "Why is it there? To experience what?"

@Princess Arabia I think so. Many people subjected to extreme situations reach mystical levels. Soldiers in the trenches of the First World War, terminally ill with cancer, people locked up in prisons, Sioux doing the sun dance, etc. If the stress is enough and the person is predisposed, the form breaks and the unlimited manifests. It's an interesting book , wild mystic, hulin, that speaks about that

It could be said that reality is love in the sense that existence is the infinite that, upon realizing its infinity, does a dance of love with itself, and this eternal dance is reality. but before love there is the absolute infinity, undifferentiated and immutable. "before" in the sense that it is from this limitlessness that arises the total joy that originates the manifestation

Oh, you called me not awake? Just now I'm on my knees with my arms to the sky screaming: nooooooooooo

Anyway, if I have to do a description, I would say that reality is life. real openness to what existence is can only be called life. I am life flowing, total existence without limit, and the word love evokes pink cupcakes, attachment and my mother.

What sense does it make to say that reality is love and not describe what love is? Are we all obliged to have the same idea that that word evokes, or else the horrible and atrocious condemnation of being shamefully called unawakened, and humiliated to the point of seeking a cherry blossom tree to humbly make sepukku?