Breakingthewall

Although those spiritual masters don't see it necessary, it is strange that they do not try psychedelics, even if it is to be able to give their opinion. perhaps they would obtain some benefit, simply understanding what psychedelic are would already be one. but it seems that it is very important for them to keep their enlightened status, and they don't want to risk it.

The thing with this is that when it happens it's nothing you could have thought of, and I can't think of it right now either, since thinking is putting one image in relation to another and an experience of total openness is the disappearance of barriers and dualities. . so...I don't remember. Let's say it's everything, and you are that. is something like: this. of course. Yes. yeeees. typical, you know. but it's real. It's like: Until now I was in the shadows, in black and white, behind a veil. This is the reality. then the veil returns, but a little more transparent each time, and the certainty remains that the path you must follow is the opening to reality, to what you really are you may have eaten tons of shit in your life, it doesn't matter. reality is beyond any expectation, so you have to realize it. It's not just do some 5meo, it's a opening process, but it's possible, you just need to want it and go for it seriously

The times that I have experienced emptiness is with 5meo, and it is: absolute, there is no me, there is nothing, there is only a well of infinite emptiness, and that is all. utter nonsense horror. The second time that happened to me, I thought, well this is what I had to see, you have to accept, not force things, integrate, blah blah, and after 2 minutes I put more than 20 mg in the pipe without weighing it, I don't know how much, I gave it fire and thought: show me the truth or kill me. and inside. reality exploded . Let's say the void opens. emptiness is the ultimate limitation. when it opens it is the unthinkable: infinite, and you are that, you always have been. I got up and saw what this moment was, what my body was, everything was obvious, the joy was total, without the slightest stain. Total freedom. dance, perfection. the infinite is not floating in nothingness, it is nothingness, and everything. nothingness does not surround it, nothing can surround it, it has no limit. it is unthinkable. Now the work is to understand how to realize deeper what we are. Break the barriers that keep us imprisoned. For now, If I do a medium dose of 5meo, the experience is infinite emptiness, nothing. the work is to become that and not be horrible. it is not. it is horrible because we have horror vacui, it could be extremely pure. is in the infinite void where the key is, but it is not something that can be articulated in thought. It's something I still don't understand, just beginning, but it's fascinating

Of course I think it's not problem with that as long as you maintain total integrity. If not, you're complete shit.

@Kuba Powiertowski look at this guy ?

Good description. And the thought is part of that explosion

Maybe he is, or maybe not. For me he is a guy who is a millionaire for projecting an image of enlightened. people do many things to be a millionaire. I'm not saying it's fake, but you have to look at it under a microscope

Where is the proof of that? If someone world famous, a paradigm of spirituality, does that, it has to be with witnesses, measuring the amount of psilocybin he has taken, without a doubt. it is not enough to say: I have levitated over the waters. you have to prove it. if not you're a phony. We already know that someone said that a Buddhist monk took 500 ug of LSD and said that it did not affect him, it is very easy to say: I am like that monk, give me your money and idolize me

The problem is not to brag, it is directly lying. never underestimate human pettiness Yes, He also says that when he was a child people would get scared looking into his eyes because they were a portal to infinity or something, and that when he got enlightened, he took his first steps as a baby learning again to use that body and that day he changed his name (and started his business)

Good to know, I'm going to try

well precisely shadguru is a bad example because he says many crazy things, such as that those over 80 will leave the wheel of reincarnations, that if you die the state you are in at that moment will expand to infinity, that he knows his past reincarnations, etc I don't really know what to think of that guy, every time I've listened to him I've heard: I'm smart and wise, and the others are mentally retarded. faker? But there are others that are not fake like Ralston or spiral, that are against psychedelic too, without having tried them

Yes, it's very hard. You have to ask yourself why is it so hard. If you want total openness to infinity you have to accept the void. It's pretty horrible at first, but you have to face it and get used to it. absolute reality is...nothing. limitless emptiness. you have to understand that this is only a limited perspective. the limitless includes the empty and the full. This is what you are looking for, you have to open yourself completely to the void or you will remain limited

Yes, but very few are so ambitious, systematic and determined at the same time, and brave btw. think that people like ralston, shadguru, adyashanti, etc, who are completely dedicated to spirituality, have never tried psychedelics. this fact is very revealing. let's see, your life is 100% focused on spirituality, you hear that there is something like 5meo and you hear the experiences, but you never try it! not even once or twice to give an opinion. You directly say that this is negative, that it is wrong, without knowing what it is. this reactionary mentality that is strangely the norm, is a great barrier. In the end, the translation of everything is: hahaha poor upstart, you cannot join the exclusive club of the enlightened except with effort and being chosen. what did you think? You will never be from our club, we are few and that is what we like the most (poor inferior wretch) : EGO

Yes, the total opening is something that happens or not. The unthinkable may never be revealed. It is somewhat difficult to understand, what we do is try to understand the barriers that prevent this, the engineering that is the self, how it closes the reality, in order to soften it and that the opening can occur

@davecraw It is obvious that I exist and that I am having a perspective, so I think that when I see others, they obviously have other perspectives, but the only reality is my perspective, the now. This does not mean that there are not others, I am sure that there are, but this is an idea that is occurring in the now. In the end, my perspective is reality, and the things that come up in my perspective, like those ideas, are just movements of reality. I will never get out of my perspective, therefore, that is the reality. we can speculate conceptually what is the structure of reality, of perspectives, of infinity. This is fun, maybe necessary. but first you have to abandon this need and focus only on the opening to existence now. if the time comes when this is complete and stable, then we'll see what can be known

I would say that the matter is simple and at the same time extremely difficult. it is about clearing this experience of the karmic and allowing a complete opening. Why? because the karmic, at the end, is basically suffering. Not because it's unpleasant, just because it's a veil. One would say that it is a configuration of reality designed to evolve in this sense, but this is complicating things. I don't know the purpose of this and for now I don't pretend to know, I only pretend to clear the view. It is one thing to say what I have just said, and quite another to actually see it, and quite another, much more difficult, to do it, or allow it to happen. Any help will be welcome, and if the drugs are there, it would be absurd not to take advantage of them. rather unthinkable. This is serious and difficult work, and if we start with fears and prejudices, bad business. the goal is not to see the deceit as you have said, it is to realize the truth, and seeing the deceit is a means to it. the truth is revealed by itself to itself, we are talking about something extremely difficult, something that many have tried very seriously and has not happened in most cases, it's not an easy path. Here we have to go with everything.

5 meo is not just for realizations, It is a process that makes you reconfigure your energy structure. pure magic.

Interesting. if you do that, is it a long trip? That's changa, right?

200 mg of 20X is a big shot. did you do it with a bong? Are you sure you smoked everything?

I have realized the absolute, or rather, I have become absolute with 5 meo only 3 times and it has been short-lived, since all my psychic construction rebels against it. it is something that happens by force with a drug. the absolute is without limit, and being without limit reveals itself as everything. I have done many more trips with 5 meo and mushrooms, in which I have seen the absolute. this is different. I, the construction, the energetic pattern that is now, on the verge of dissolution realizing the bottomless void that is existence that is absolute potential, but there is still duality . Lately i got that state also being sober or with 2 puffs of weed. The work for me is to stay at that point without escaping in horror, to educate myself to let go, to accept the absolute, in order to have long realizations. It's a long process for me, you need to completely restructure the psyche. For Leo, perhaps it is something easy, for others it is impossible, for others it is difficult. It doesn't matter, I know I have to do what I'm doing

Thats a thought that can point a truth or not. I think we have to realize the absolute thoroughly, frequently. there is 5 meo, meditation, whatever. Those of us who have this tendency have to go without fear and directly to it regardless of the medium. later, we will see what thoughts do, where they lead and if we can keep a good balance.

Good point. any thought is relative, that is, it relates one thing to another and therefore separates. an absolute thought is a non-thought. but the fact is that the act of thinking is the absolute thinking, therefore, the absolute wants to think and wants to think in more expanded ways. the point is not to confuse what thought defines with the truth, since the truth is indefinable. as you say, it is the absolute realizing itself. then the thoughts come. thoughts will try to capture reality, since this is a way of the absolute to understand itself. one must see how far thought can go if the absolute realizes itself in a habitual way

Thought does not have to be associated with language or logic. equating thought with language is a mistake. thinking is processing, language is a basic processing tool. true thought is a silent mental process, and language is the primitive manifestation of those processes. thought is understanding. Bacteria understand nothing, dogs understand something, humans can understand much more. Everything?. thought is not conceptual, nor is it entirely memory. in fact, memory is something that is happening now. All this that I am saying are thoughts, but they are not articulated as a result of an analysis made at a verbal level, but by direct comprehension. This understanding is more or less deep, but it is direct, not the result of a self-dissertation of hours with logical additions and subtractions.

there is something that happens with the 5meos, is that they cause a great energetic expansion. If you do not allow that expansion to happen, it is as if it remains blocked. once I did 5meo and that happened to me, I had great pain in my fingers and toes and for 2 days I had muscle spasms in my legs. One night I couldn't sleep from the continuous spasms, I concentrated on it, let it out, I had 4 or 5 powerful energy discharges, several seconds each. automatically the spasms completely disappeared

I don't think he means survival, obviously though is extremely useful to survive. Yes, agree, What I was saying is that perhaps mental activity, thought, can expand, equalize with the unlimited and function on that frequency. when you access unlimited states it is because you have gotten rid of the barriers that thought creates, but something else. it is an energetic expansion, not only mental. a dog does not think but does not access states of mystical ecstasy. then, once those states are normal for you, perhaps you can configure your thought activity. after all, as humans we are the absolute thinking. it seems that the absolute wants to think. all these are thoughts, of course