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Hey Leo, maybe you want to help this man out. I recorded a message for him (on my YouTube) just then and I gave him the advice to search out a spiritual institution/mentor like a Zen monastery or teacher. I also recommended he should try to contact you because you have the most experience with this stuff. He is experiencing a dangerous state of inflation, where the ego is equating itself to God. He is also falsely conflating the absolute realm with the relative world (taking about "Odin" giving him instructions for his transformation of the relative world). I think its important to mention that the psychedelic realm is only useful for spiritual work and enligthenment work, and is not useful for instructions for the relative world or the ego. He clearly has not achieved self-acceptance and inner peace through the spiritual path and is falsely conflating this work with his civilization, sociology and anthropology work. I fear he will lose his mind if he does not receive proper instruction . He is in a very dangerous state right now, for himself but also for others. He is a great thinker, so I wouldlnt want to lose him so early. He is only 23. Anyways, what do you guys think about this situation and his psychedelic experiences? Hopefully we dont get another case like Connor Murphy

Swedistan is gonna be a caliphate in 50 years

@Leo Gura Im excited to see how all of our views will develop! Be sure to always keep in touch with the opposing viewpoint. I will try to do the same!

@Nilsi Donald Trump and most of the right are gynocentric and have no regard for Men's Rights. Most of them are also not serious Christians and have no serious concern for enforcing Christian morals on a large scale

Stick to spirituality. Otherwise, you will do immense damage by pushing this leftist attitude

@Nilsi Yes Im escaping decadence. Nothing wrong with sitting at home and being morally clean when everyone else outside is extremely perverted and instinctively driven. Nothing wrong with living a simple life of protest against an overwhelming majority that is destroying societal stability by behaving in immoral ways. If everyone behaved like me: non-status seeking, non FOMO, non animalistic, we wouldnt have any of the social, political and cultural problems with which we are faced.

@Leo Gura Are you open to the possibility that you might be wrong, and one day you will be a right-wing chud like me? Because I am certainly open to being wrong, so that I can finally can stop getting rejected by every women for being critical of feminism.

@Nilsi calling him an incel is in itself an admission of your deeply ingrained gynocentrism and devaluing of male life. anyone who uses sexual success of an individual as an argument has no argument

@Hojo imagine simping

@Buck Edwards you remind me of all the girls that rejected me because im right-wing why do you do this to me Lord

were only telling you our opinion. we had this same conversation 5 years ago. everything left-wing is "normal political discussion", everything right wing is "absurd ideas" and "gaslighting". cmon man. i dont think left-wing ideas are absurd. I think both camps are equally valid, you do not

Dont get mad Leo You know I love you

Yeah I think spirituality has nothing to do with the relative realm of politics. Thats why I dont understand Leo's left leaning stance

Leo seems to think its left wing, and has pushed any right-wing thinkers out of this space. He has the impartiality of my gender studies teacher. I actually try to synthesize right wing and left wing. Leo is just a blatant leftist, which is mind-boggling to me

I can already see it coming: there will be a future war between right-wing and left-wing spiritualists for the next 100 years

right

Exactly, dont get attached to one guru. Like the old Zen students would go from Master to Master until they found the right one

Either you get through the dark night of the soul or you break under pressure. Connor unfortunately was far from ready to experience what he experienced, so he disintegrated.

@Hojo 100%

You will get there one day too lil bro With the spiritual knowledge you have aquired by now, it is only a question of time before you leave leftism behind. I believe in you

If you were stuck in this particular reality, why would you care about alternate realities and the possibility of infinity? You will never experience the infinity of the universe in this life, because your life (i.e., your memory) is limited to this place; it is limited to an average of 70-90 years. Yes, you will be reborn as something else all together eventually, but all the progress in spiritual endeavours will be lost and it is unlikely that you will respawn in an entity that has the same potential for spiritual enlightenment as the body you are in right now. Then again, if you realize the full spiritual truth in this life, what's so special about that? Spiritual truth has been known in all of time and does not ever change. Spiritual truth is so universal and ever-present that there is almost no point in realizing it because such a thing is not a speciality in any case. In fact, it is the most universal thing there is, the most boring thing there is. Stop the escapism, stop the endless thinking loops of meaninglessness, and start something of value in this unique reality. Why is this reality so special? Because there are endless possibilities, which means this is the only time you get to experience this particular reality. If you think this reality is meaningless, maybe consider that this is the only time you get to experience this one reality. Realizing infinity means that you realize the invaluable nature of this specific, one-of-a-kind reality. The great things that you achieve in the specific context of this reality will be infinitely more worthwhile than the realization of the ultimate truth that concerns all realities equally. The adventures and uncoverings of relative truth in this circumstantial reality are infinitely more valuable than ultimate truth. That is because they are infinitely unique as nothing else could ever be. Throw your full life into understanding this relative space and how to make it better. Leave behind existential questioning and spiritual ecstasy once you have gotten the message, because getting the message is only valuable in regards to applying it to the unique place you are situated in right now. Spiritual enlightenment for a relative entity is only worthwhile when it is combined with the relative workings of your current reality; how does the ultimate truth interact with the relative sphere you were imbued with? Sincerely Rob

That is a contradiction, when there is Awakening there is no "this lifetime". That is right, we are letting the spiritual insight interact with this particular space and time. this one set of particular circumstances is what's meaningful. That is correct, I made a mistake here. Enlightenment is not realized "in this life", but only when you transcend your life. When you are "yourself", you are, by definition, not fully aware. If you want to experience something beyond absolute nothingness(i.e., death), you have to indulge in the illusion of the self and willingly limit yourself. Thats what I would argue against, I think it is the only meaningful thing there is right now. I think going through illusory experiences is the only way to feel normal and whole. When the act ends, there is nothing. It is non-existent. The only thing that exists and can have meaning is when the act is restarted, anything else literally couldn't exist. I wholeheartedly agree with this! But this sort of fulfillment can only come from the fact that you were stuck in an illusory limitation to begin with, otherwise this insight would be meaningless.

@An young being You have a typo in your username

this place is fucked dude

As you can see in the picture I uploaded, I tricked the spiritual Guru Leo Gura. He actually thought he was teaching a student, but in reality, he was fooled by his own projection! There was no student! His own mind was trying to fool him into believing there was any way of helping a student with a question, when in fact, this is one of the ways the mind tries to falsely anchor him in this reality. Just a reminder Leo, I created you. You were my idea all along! Don't act like there is any difference between us!