Mulky

Sometimes I have this weird somewhat twisted hope that everyone who doesn't understand me will live my entire life to. Then I think wait, what if that's why I'm here living this life. But ya I don't know.

Someone get this man a copy of Age of Empires, the new one. Or one of the Civ games, maybe even Some Call of duty. He can do all this stuff he's into without hurting anyone. The historical Ego can be such a damaging thing. It's like you want to be a character in a history book, so you want to do something eventful and big. Your wasting your life being a character. You won't know how people remember you after you die, because you will be dead. The enjoyment of the fruits of pursuing the historical ego is something that can never happen because everyone you read about throughout history is dead, they don't exist at all. Kurt Cobain(and I do enjoy his music) Doesn't get to enjoy how beloved he is, because he is dead. So now all these real people are suffering at least partly because of this historical ego mechanism which is something no one ever gets to truly enjoy. Even gamers have ego, they can feel just as mighty winning a game of Starcraft 2 as Generals when they conquer a territory. But nobody gets hurt, someone send this man a really nice gaming PC. let him masterbate in a way that doesn't hurt anyone.

There was always an eternity. the easiest way to think of it is to instead of trying to find a beginning of time, keep imagining the rewinding of time going on forever. If there was ever a start to time, on some level there would have had to be some type of movement or change, that would have required time. So that would not really have been the start to time. It might be possible for time to pseudo start in an island universe or reality but not in all of reality, and there would be no way for that island universe or reality to be truly untouchable by the rest of reality, so it would still be in time.

You'll live this life again, but also an infinite number of other existences. Also, you'll live as something that has a little of what you now consider you in it, to infinitely varying degrees. IE Imagine wondering what it would be like to be your sister. In order to experience that, you wouldn't be able to bring any of yourself there, because then it would not be the experience of being your sister, it would have some of you in there changing the experience, so all you could take was awareness, with nothing at all to it. But you will also experience a being experiencing another being, althought I guess that would just create another being. You can be a drop of water, 2 drops of water, 8, 7 drops of water plus a piece of grass, etc. We all know there isn't really a you for any of that stuff, but you can experience what it is like for there to be a you for any of that stuff. You can be some soul kind of thing living in a bunch of bodies, but that soul is just another body. I don't know how or why I think any of this, this is just how I see reality right now. But most of it just is implicit from infinity. Can the cycle of life end, I feel like it would start again. Actually, looking back. I saw it like this even as a young kid, it's not something I learned. I'm not sure the exact approach to learning about this but it is not from gaining information and later in life learning about the whole Jnana thing I think that is how it works. Those foundational what reality is types of understandings are gotten Jnanically and not through adding more information.

INFP 4w5. Seems to be almost all N's and mostly I's

Life comes together as a soup, all the ingredients are important and matter. Some of them you don't directly or consciously know the importance of. The laugh of a kid or the song of a bird has a ripple effect throughout the emotional economy of people. Some people are consciously aware that the combination of plants has made the air come together in a way that makes them feel better, but some people are not. Subtlety is the master of the ... less subtle. You have always lived in a world filled with art music and all of that. It is like being a fish in water, to some extent. You take for granted the effect that art has directly and indirectly on your experience of life. There is a difference between being yourself right now thinking about a world with none of that stuff, and what that actual experience would be like. It is like when there's a movie about living on another planet and assuming humans are going to feel basically the same. When our body is perfectly evolved for this planet and even a subtle change, different type of air, or sterile air with no plant variety in it, different gravity, etc, would probably cause you to constantly feel physically terrible. Looking at everything through a sterile conceptual lens, we underestimate the effect an infinite number of subtle things have on our experience all day long. A lot of these things like art and music and, well an infinite number of other things are in that category. You assume the feeling of sun on your skin is nothing and you would feel ok without it. Intuition tells you your body is made for that and it would change how you feel, but you don't believe it until someone shows you some data. There are thousands of things in your life that are like that, either not in sync with your or something you really need but are neglecting. Science won't be able to really prove that to you for a while, if ever. Art is one of those things that's in the salad of life, if it's here it must be supposed to be here, and it does have a place in life. Can art people be pretentious, yes. Is the artist ego sort of silly, ya, but I mean art itself isn't.

We live in a time where the philistine mindset is really prevalent.

I like Paul Hedderman

I actually don't know anything about her other than that short video I just watched, and the post. She seems like a pretty mature soul though.

Well she has it good in life and is using it in a pretty good way. She's trying to be nice and help people. It is harder when you have it rough(usually), and maybe she does have it easy, I don't know. It's good that she is using this situation in a nice way like that instead of wasting it.

Even if you are not a sports fan, you might find this interesting. I have casually watched sports from time to time, but have never seen a level of presence at a sporting event like this. It was the Chiefs vs Bills game Sunday. The overall level of presence was extremely high amongst all the players and fans, but the biggest contributor by far seemed to be the Bills quarterback Josh Allen. Right before the level of presence began to skyrocket, the camera shows Josh walking across the field and you can see his eyes, the state he seems to be in is Like some kind of warrior athlete nirvana type thing, I can't explain it. You can tell it's really deep, it's like he might die and he's ok with it. (unfortunately I think that particular moment happened right before this video starts.) I think his state might have been somewhat transmitted(it was shown on the screen) to everyone there. From that point all the players are in a far deeper state than Ive ever seen them in. Now I know the stakes were high, and that was part of it, but this was different. It was like all the players went into a warrior poet state of mind, and Josh Allen was so deep in that state he was elevating everyone else, even the other team. I am Chiefs fan, but after today I think Allen might be my favorite player. If you are not a sports fan, but a fan of states of consciousness, you might still find this interesting. I can't post video, but it was Bills vs Chiefs game on sunday, you can watch the last 30 minutes on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcIx1_U1H-A&ab_channel=dolomuse This person seems to be a musical genius

He has a really good mental understanding of something that can happen (seeing the illusion of self), that leads to spiritual experience. I don't know if he has had it in a real enough way yet, although he does talk about engaging in practices to see it in a real enough way. He is also introducing it to communities of people who will not listen to him if he does not open the door to it in a logical scientific way. The best way to introduce a scientific person to spirituality is to use their own system of logic to prove that there isn't really a self, at least not in the way we think. You can then also use logic to point out that certain insights and understanding may come to a mind being used in a different and less commonly used way. that to assume that to not be possible would just be an assumpion. that you're mind is in a certain state when thinking with words, and there may be understandings that come when your mind is in a different state that does not involve words. But to get people to go past all that he has to at least greet them with concepts.

A face is something I can't feel when I'm with you.

cool stuff

Sorry I was gone for a day and missed this, thanks Whatever

"So in a nutshell, inner peace that is an outcome of isolating oneself from difficulty I dont see as virtuous. Inner peace shared and received thru interaction with others is realer to me." I agree with that, it is more challenging but I feel it will be worth it. I like being around people but to feel connected and at one with other people is very scary to me.

I think so to and I appreciate it

One more thing... I had a time when I didn't have to do anything but walk around and zen out, and I was, balls deep in zen, for a few years. I mean I was gone, from this planet, pretty much, my mind was like the sky. I was so at peace and equanimous and everything, then guess what? I had to do stuff, work, and think at work, and react, and focus, and sort of half focus, etc. And nobody, at work, cared about my state, there were no policies in place to protect my state, it wasn't on any ones radar, I couldn't ask for help with it. So guess, what, gradually, and painfully, I got dragged out of zen and into... human activity. Now, after first hand studying of how all of this works within my own mind... I would be amazed to find any human that could maintain his zen through all of that, or in pretty much any job. And also, it was extremely painful, even physically, within my whole nervous system. There was a very real sense I was leaving my natural and graceful way of being in order to maintain my physical survival. The zen way felt natural, this way, doesn't sit right with my soul, so to speak. But I do it anyway, still to this day, I can't just bail on my family. And that is probably how it is for a lot of people. And please understand I am using the word zen for lack of a better word and not as the literal exact definition of zen. I don't think every human is meant for the same role. I actually think some people are supposed to live like that, with help from others, because it does yield benefits to everyone, to have those peaceful frequency holders. But that is not a role valued by our society right now. The spiritual lessons that come after that are even stronger than the ones before, but it is very hard and painful.

How is inner peace not a goal in spirituality with any depth? We are just doing things for their form in physical reality? Why do you care about how anything is at all, it's because of the one experiencing life, and what their existence is like. So you don't want peace for you and them, is there something else you want? I'm not denying the suffering humans experience, I'm saying the alleviation of that is what I care about. Helping people is great but what is the thing you want for them ultimately? I assume it goes beyond just physical survival. I Agree with you that it is pretty easy to be detached and spiritual when you don't have to work or do anything. For most of us, almost every persons perspective is something we have very little real understanding of, we think we do, but there are so many little details there that we don't really know. Every kind of person from every walk of life in every job, we know all about our own problems in great detail, but they experience types of pain's and struggles we probably haven't considered. And unless we had the same experience we won't intimately know their type of suffering, we aren't likely to appreciate it. All the perspectives are true, we feel that way because of the life we have had, it was our experience, only we know that particular flavor of life that was had. If you think you don't understand someone else, you would if you were them.

He has somewhat of a point. There is a big difference between having equanimity with things you only observe or think about, and having equanimity with things that are actually happening in your life, all around you. It is also true, however, most people that I have met, have no interest in being still or inwardly attentive. If given any amount of free time, they wouldn't use any of it for spiritual practices in earnest. Those who have the desire and also the privileg are lucky in a way. Most humans are required to use their mind, most of the day, in ways that are not expansive , blissful, or beautiful, in order to make a living. I, like you, can imagine them doing it while being in a state of grace, but I'm just imaging it, I'm not actually in the experience. In the actual experience, it's way more difficult. It is true that, for the most part, very few people care at all about inner peace. There are people that do, and their life makes very challenging to dedicate the time to exploring that part of themselves.

What ever you do is gonna be God's will

Boredom or the ability to be bored is a feature of any mind that has that feature. Theres no reason to assume every experience of life in existence has that feature, boredom is mostly a human thing.

That was really cool

Considering the effect just 1 turquoise has on it's surroundings, I think it would be a constant experience of what we now consider overwhelming beauty. We underestimate how much we base our idea about what is possible on what things are like right now. The experience of human life on this planet can be something not even comparable to how it is right now. It goes way past technology or governments. When we try to imagine what things could be like, its usually differently decorated version of the same thing. Even basic modes of human activity that we take as a given wouldn't even happen anymore. Entire domains of human life would be so healed it would hard to even remember there ever being a problem. We would be going beyond what we now consider our highest values. It's nothing like being a turquoise in an orangish world. Even being a turquoise in an orange world, you are nothing like how you would be in a turquoise world. Your behaviors thoughts and everything still sort of falls in line with the rest of human life to some extent. You still end up thinking about things you would never think about in a more evolved world. You don't think about things you would think about in a more evolved world. The effect of the state of 7 billion turquoise would be something very hard to imagine. It might be sort of heavenly compared to what we are used to.