DocWatts

Good way of putting it.

Axiomatic to the SD Model is the idea that the stage someone is at is in large part a Survival strategy in response to life conditions and environment. So while it's relatively easy to reach the SD-Stage that's the Center of Gravity in one's Culture/Sub-culture, going beyond that is going to be more difficult. As far as Yellow goes, I do think there are some prerequisites that would make this very difficult to achieve without some level of freedom in one's life and circumstances. Not the least of which are Education, access to ideas from other Cultures, time and energy for reading, contemplating, etc. All of which are going to be the consequence of at least some degree of privilege, something the Yellow individual would be cognizant of due to their experience of Green.

It's one thing to resonate with the ethos of an SD-stage, and quite another to embody its values in your day to day life. I would imagine that far more of us are in a transitionary stage between Green and Yellow (myself included).

Every time even modest gun control legislation is considered, Bad Faith actors intentionally use just these sorts of tactics to tap into the fear and Conspiracism of Conservatives. This benefits both Gun Manufacturers as well as the Republican Party, who are ruthlessly able to exploit Single Issue Voters to stay in power while not actually helping the people who vote for them. Are we going to hold an entire nation's policy hostage to a privileged minority? Because that's been the Republican Party's entire shtick.

Teddy Roosevelt was one of the most interesting people to ever end up in the Oval Office, but make no mistake he was also an unabashed Imperialist, and romanticized War as a noble endeavour. He has elements of both Blue and Orange.

Yeah, Libertarian support of UBI typically comes with the aspiration that it will come about in exchange for dismantling of the Welfare State, which is why they support it. And to be fair there probably are some aspects of the Social Welfare State (such as unemployment insurance) that it might make sense to replace with UBI. But you're absolutely right that UBI would be an obvious target for austerity measures, so perhaps a gradual implementation would make sense; let people get used to it, and let the program make a positive case for how it can makes people's lives better. I would also be very surprised if a UBI program isn't incredibly popular once implemented, so it's not hard to imagine it becoming as ingrained as Social Security once a Generation grows up with it, and it ceases to feel new or experimental.

Gonna disagree with you hard on your assessment of Trump as Orange. Try to imagine an actual Orange individual such as Jeff Bazos becoming President in 2016, and ask yourself if most Orange individuals would have done the things Trump has done, including inciting an Insurrectionist mob to storm the Capitol to overturn the results of an election he lost. Hell, someone equally as morally bankrupt as Trump who'd managed to reach Orange would have at least been smarter about it, and not openly align himself with White Supremacists, and would have been capable of more long term thinking. Cults of Personality are much more likely to develop at at Red than they are at Orange (though not impossible, i'll concede). If Trump proves anything, it's that Capitalist systems are vulnerable to manipulation by Red individuals, not that Trump himself is Orange.

Thought this might fit in here nicely...

Less risk of this happening in Washington DC because of the presence of the National Guard, but the FBI is warning there's a likelihood of armed protests breaking out across the country, such as at State Capitols, in response to Biden's inauguration. https://time.com/5929581/security-insider-threat-inauguration/ Now the FBI is warning of planned armed protests at the Jan. 20 Inauguration in Washington, D.C., and in all 50 state capitals, current senior U.S. officials tell TIME. Current and former security officials say they are concerned that serving U.S. troops or law enforcement officers could pose a clear and present danger to the President- and Vice President-elect and other senior U.S. lawmakers on Inauguration Day. Federal investigators are also trying to track down military and law enforcement members or veterans who took part on Jan. 6, and trace their wider network of associates who may be plotting to turn next week into the mayhem being called for on far-right forums. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55625707 The FBI has warned of possible armed protests across the US as Trump supporters and far-right groups call for demonstrations before Joe Biden is sworn in as president.

Stand By Me (1986) - My favorite movie. Some excellent video essays that go into how the film is an emotionally honest exploration of childhood, friendship, grief, masculinity, and emotional vulnerability.

Chimps, you say? Brings to mind the conversation you have with your limbic system in the opening of Disco Elysium... _________________________________________________________ You: Tell me, what's waiting for me? Limbic System: There is a giant ball there. And evil apes. And the evil apes are dukin' it out on the ball. You're one of them. It's basically all just evil apes dukin' it out on a giant ball. You: How big is the ball? Limbic System: You can't even make out that it's a ball, when you're dukin' it out. It's that large. You: How small are the apes? Limbic System: Infinitesimally small. You: And what is this "dukin' it out" I keep hearing about? Limbic System: Vying for resources? It's just a stupid expression you picked up somewhere. The part of the presentation you want to take home is this: you have to beat the other evil apes in the face or you lose. You: That's sad.

It will still take a Senate conviction to make Trump ineligible to run for Office again, correct?

Almost like he was going out of his way to make it to the bottom of those Presidential Rankings lists compiled by Historians, via his one upmanship of the underachievers who only managed to get Impeached once

Agreed! The Metamodernism book mentioned by Hanzi Freinacht that @Elevated mentioned intrigued me enough to order a copy; looking forward to reading it. Almost seems like an extension of some of the things that another one of my favorite authors, David Foster Wallace, wrote about; that postmodernism, having done its job, has reached the limits of its usefulness, and it's due time for a more constructive paradigm to take its place.

Obviously Big Tech companies must be regulated, but be careful about critiquing Big Tech from Below (rather than from Above). The reason for regulating Big Tech is because of the immense amount of Power they wield, and also because many of them are Monopolies that society has come to depend on. Social Media platforms have become breeding grounds for the spread of misinformation such as Conspiracy Theories, in addition to the problematic way that online Echo Chambers reinforce and amplify divisions in society; the disastrous consequences of which we've seen unfolding over the past few years. A critique from above would advocate for treating Social Media platforms as Public Utilities, and finding policies to regulate the spread of misinformation, and devising strategies for pushing back against the radicalizing effect of online Echo Chambers. Bitching and moaning about Trump finally getting banned from Social Media platforms, after years of propagating misinformation and advocating for Political Violence, is a critique from Below.

I could also see a situation developing where the radicalism Trump helped to ferment becomes something he's unable to reign in, even if by some miracle he were so inclined. You saw this exact same dynamic happen with Fox News, who's to say it has to stop with Trump? That's the problem with demagogues, the radicalization they ferment has a way of spilling out beyond the bounds of what people benefiting from it intended. I don't see this sort of thing going away until we evolve our Society to the point that it's not creating so many embittered, alienated people, and come to grips with the democratization of media that provides fuel for the spread of dangerous ideologies.

Post-postmodernism, or the New Sincerity, is another term for this. Found this great description on the website linked below: We see this manifest as a kind of informed naivety, a pragmatic idealism, a moderate fanaticism, oscillating between sincerity and irony, deconstruction and construction, apathy and affect, attempting to attain some sort of transcendent position, as if such a thing were within our grasp. The metamodern generation understands that we can be both ironic and sincere in the same moment; that one does not necessarily diminish the other. http://www.metamodernism.com/2015/01/12/metamodernism-a-brief-introduction/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/live-updates-house-begins-effort-remove-trump-n1253700/ncrd1253847?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR1CiKvZ2Ez2iLK3THbU6VDeRIgcf7tXTrTtHDweWnTUQJgAdmKTjrTjD5U#blogHeader Banks halt business with Trump after U.S. Capitol riots

Seems like OP doesn't understand thr concept behind Political Dog Whistles. It's political shorthand for a phrase that may sound innocuous to some people, but which also communicates something more insidious either to a subset of the audience or outside of the audience’s conscious awareness — a covert appeal to some noxious set of views https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/the-big-idea/2016/11/7/13549154/dog-whistles-campaign-racism Basically political dog whistles are used when someone wants to advocate for things like racism ans violence, while also maintaining plausible deniability.

True... So let's try to make sure it doesn't come to that.

Let me take a moment to check my own biases, and imagine if the situation were reversed and BLM protesters or Socialists were storming the Capitol. ...And yup, this checks out. That said, there are no authoritative Leftist politicians or thought leaders in America actually encouraging violence, at least that I'm aware of. Seems like a pretty big qualitative difference between violence on the Left vs. Right. In modern times, there's nothing at all comparable on the Left to the MAGA Cult (and let's hope there never will be).

Thanks for the helping to clear that up, the reasoning you laid out seems much more plausible than alternative explanations I've come across so far. Even if it is depressing for the state of our country that perpetuating violence from a leverageable position of power apparently affords one more humane treatment at the hands of the Police...

I'll agree with your assessment that the Capitol Hill Police were caught off guard and overwhelmed, but why the hell weren't they better prepared in the first place? I've got nothing but respect for the cops who actually tried to do thier job under those circumstances, but it never should have come to that. Incompetence as an explanation only gets you so far, since the threat of something exactly like this happening has been evident for weeks; seems far more likely that the higher ups in the Capitol Hill Police didn't take the threat of MAGA violence seriously and didn't prepare, likely due to biases in the organization. If a portion of our legislators have been supporting Trump's coup attempt, is it that unlikely that maybe some of the higher ups in the Capitol Hill Police were also sympathetic to Trump's cause, and only put in a half hearted effort to defend the Capitol Building from Trumpists? Some degree of collusion with the Trump administration is also a possibility, though one that's worth being tentative about considering until the incident is investigated further. Where were the rows of police in Riot gear that were there to meet the BlackLivesMatter protestors? Sam's explanation that the fiasco was due to the city of DC caving to pressure for police cutbacks doesn't seem to hold a lot of water, since the Capitol Hill Police are its own jurisdiction with its own Federal funding (to the tune of half a billion dollars a year). Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I would assume an organization like that much more insulated from public pressure than a city police department.

Fair enough, and I'm %100 for making allies with the police, as long as it doesn't come at expense of needed Reforms. And I guess that's the rub, getting Police departments on board with Humane Policing. A difficult prospect when Police Departments often benefit in real ways from corruption within the current criminal justice system, with things like 'Policing for Profit' and having access to military hardware. Not to mention from clear conflict of interest policies that shield police officers from facing consequences of misconduct.