DocWatts

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  1. I read a handful of books on Developmental Psychology , so guess I'm what's known as 'Spiral Wizard' now. Do they send you your pointy hat and staff, or do you have to go somewhere to collect them?
  2. In a strict sense no; it's a developmental model used to contextualize why people have the worldviews they do, how different worldviews relate to one another, and how worldviews change over time. A rough analogy might be something like the Hegelian Dialectic or Darwin's Theory of Evolution, in that all three are systemic ways of examining change over time for living systems. But because all three are very broad and have vast implications, they can still be used to provide structural support for various ideologies and worldviews, even if the models themselves are not ideologies. For example, the Theory of Evolution is not an ideology; at the same time it does end up being used to provide a sort of foundation for Modernist ideologies like scientism and new atheism (which couldn't exist without it). The Hegelian Dialectic, which proposes that new ideas result from a synthesis of two opposing thought systems being in tension with one another, is also not an ideology in the strict sense of the word. But it was used as a starting point for Karl Marx in the creation of his ideology. And in a similar way, I do think that insights from developmental models like Spiral Dynamics are being used to construct a newly emerging paradigm (or meta-ideology) that places itself in opposition to both postmodernism and modernism : metamodernism. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-knowledge/202004/what-is-metamodernism
  3. Michigan's really a microcosm of the entire country in a lot of ways; cities like Ann Arbor and Ferndale are as progressive as anything you'll find on the West coast, while rural areas forty minutes away are deep Blue Trump country. Only thing Michigan doesn't really have is a huge SD-Orange financial Capitol that would be an analogy to something like New York City.
  4. The point to take away here is that it's possible to be an asshole about anti-racism, just like it's possible to be an asshole about veganism, or feminism, or any other number of laudable ideas that become counter productive when practiced in a very judgmental way.
  5. Like it or not, in this day and age, public intellectuals are a large part of how ideas get transmitted from Specialist Fields within Academia and into Mainstream Culture. This has both positive and negative aspects to it. No matter how intellectually curious and developed you are, no one is going to be able to become an expert in quantum mechanics and comparative theology and psychology and evolutionary biology and sociology and AI Research and so on, and so on. And I don't care how many days a Mystic spends sitting in a cave meditating and contemplating, there's just some knowledge that depends on Empirical observations and Interpersonal Interactions, that they're not going to have access to unless they go out and seek it. Taking a deep dive into any Specialist Field is going to come with opportunity costs, so the breadth and depth of one's knowledge will always be limited. Part of the job of public intellectuals is to make these ideas more accessible for a wider audience. Serious question: how many people here have tried actually reading an Academic Paper from a field you're not familiar with? It's likely to be filled with technical terms and jargon that you're not familiar with, and trying to wade through it will likely feel like banging your head up against a wall. The problem comes when Cults of Personality begin to form around these figures, and when they begin transmuting their Specialized Knowledge into an Ideology, often in a very subtle and sneaky ways. So it seems like what we should be doing is pushing for a Healthier and more Honest form of Public Intellectualism.
  6. The work of Steven Pinker comes to mind when trying to come up with examples of contemporary public intellectuals who display some of the Healthier aspects of the Orange vMeme. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker Pinker's academic specializations are visual cognition and psycholinguistics. His experimental subjects include mental imagery, shape recognition, visual attention, children's language development, regular and irregular phenomena in language, the neural bases of words and grammar, and the psychology of cooperation and communication, including euphemism, innuendo, emotional expression, and common knowledge. He has written two technical books that proposed a general theory of language acquisition and applied it to children's learning of verbs. In particular, his work with Alan Prince published in 1989 critiqued the connectionist model of how children acquire the past tense of English verbs, arguing instead that children use default rules such as adding "-ed" to make regular forms, sometimes in error, but are obliged to learn irregular forms one by one. Pinker is also the author of eight books for general audiences. The Language Instinct (1994), How the Mind Works (1997), Words and Rules (2000), The Blank Slate (2002), and The Stuff of Thought (2007), describe aspects of psycholinguistics and cognitive science, and include accounts of his own research, arguing that language is an innate behavior shaped by natural selection and adapted to our communication needs. Pinker's The Sense of Style (2014), is a general language-oriented style guide.[9] Pinker's book The Better Angels of Our Nature (2011) argues that violence in human societies has generally steadily declined over time, and identifies six major causes of this decline. Enlightenment Now (2018) uses social science data to show a general improvement of the human condition over recent history.
  7. More intelligent than a starfish or parrot? Eh, I'll grant him that. All kidding aside, if we were to chart him on a cognitive developmental level using something like the Hierarchical Model of Complexity, he would have reached something like Formal stage (which is what most adults reach), where one can present arguments and spin narratives, but has trouble dealing with complexity or systemic thinking. The cultural code, or 'software' he's running is one level of development below the center of gravity of his society (roughly SD-stage Blue). Not really a lot of support for him being 'intelligent'. More like he's an average guy parroting some outdated cultural ideas.
  8. Sorry about that, and thank you. I can't recommend the book highly enough for anyone with an interest in the emerging paradigm of metamodernism, or in developmental psychology. If models like Spiral Dynamics and The Nine Stages of Ego Development are of interest to you, you should read this; you'll come away with a much richer understanding of the paradigm that gave birth to both of those models.
  9. While Institutional failings here can and should be criticized and investigated, let's also give due credit to the professionalism and integrity of individual Officers like Eugene Goodman, who kept things from potentially becoming much worse under incredibly difficult circumstances. Someone well deserving of the Congressional Honors he received. Goes to show that cops, just like anyone else, aren't one monolithic group, and for every Cop who sympathizes with White Supremacists, you'll also have people like this, and many more in between.
  10. That's less on the individual officers, who were going to have difficulties doing thier job under those circumstances, and more on institutional biases within the Capitol Hill Police for not taking the threat of MAGA violence seriously, and negligently failing to take steps to prepare for an obvious threat.
  11. I also love Moby Dick; although I think it's a mistake to try to introduce it to kids still in High School, as it takes some basic familiarity with literary novels to understand and appreciate it. Some knowledge of history also helps, as the book is chock full of historical and cultural references. As to the book itself, it plays with so many interesting ideas such the self destructive nature of revenge, the harms of trying to anthropomorphize nature, the mysterious nature God. And it even explores multiculturalism in a really progressive way for its era. Something that's often overlooked is that the book is actually quite humorous and playful in parts as well: “and tell him to paint me a sign, with-"no suicides permitted here, and no smoking in the parlor;" might as well kill both birds at once.” " With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship.”
  12. Agreed; knowing what I do about Gorbachev, the idea that he's at 'one right way' Blue or even corporatist Orange is just not correct, for the reasons you outlined. I think people have trouble separating him from the larger Soviet system. And while it's true that in order to gain power in that system he had to at least pay lip service to Blue rhetoric early on, what's clear is that he was playing by the Rules in order to Change the Game, so to speak. By the time he stepped down from the Presidency in 1991, he was clearly a Social Democrat. And since that time, he's been advocating for Green political ideals. Assuming that Gorbachev is Blue just because he emerged from the old Soviet system is just as misinformed as assuming that every American politician is an Orange corporatist.
  13. Let's just let every freedom loving American the right to buy an Abrams Tank while we're at it...
  14. I realize this was probably supposed to be an Edge-Lord comment, but let's not become a left leaning reflection of those MAGA idiots.
  15. While Bernie Sander lost the opportunity to become president, the position he's in now is arguably one of the most advantageous he could be in under present circumstances, short of becoming Senate majority leader.
  16. All of this screams of someone who was taken in by an Authoritarian Cult of Personality... Predictable fear base response that Authoritarian figures cultivate; that they're the only one who can save the country from nefarious forces. You're being manipulated my dude.
  17. That's just factually incorrect on Don Beck's part (Beck's a analysis of Gorbachev, not the quote). By the end of his Presidency in 1991 he was pretty clearly a Social Democrat who was pushing market reforms and trying to establish more of a mixed system in Russia, similar to the Social Democracies of Western Europe. As to Don Beck, he was clearly a Conservative guy in some respects, and his analysis was likely due to personal biases on his part. Also Beck is apparently a Trump supporter now, so let's not put him on a pedestal...
  18. I'll also point out that he deserves more credit than any other Individual for ending the Cold War, which was a great accomplishment for the entire world. He was well and truly deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize he was awarded in 1990, and more than anything else this should be looked at as his crowning achievement.
  19. Coincidentally I just finished reading an excellent Pulitzer Prize winning biography on Gorbachev, which I'd highly recommend to anyone who wants an in depth examination of one of the most important world figures of the last fifty years. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38212114-gorbachev I would agree with the assessment of him at Orange/Green, with the Biden comparison being an apt one. By the end of his presidency in 1991 he was clearly a Social Democrat; anyone who places him at Blue clearly doesn't understand him very well, and what made him so different from the mostly Red/Blue leaders in Russia who came before him. I would also think this comes as a result of being unable to distinguish Gorbachev as an individual from the larger Soviet system that he emerged from. Yes, the Soviet Union was at roughly SD-Stage Blue when Gorbachev came to power, but that doesn't mean that all individuals who emerged from that system were Blue themselves. Also keep in mind that Gorbachev was far from a static figure, his thinking evolved and changed throughout his public life. One thing that I've consistently come across in everything I've read and learned about the man is that he was a decent person who just happened to be living under an incredibly dysfunctional political system. He was also highly curious about other cultures and was willing to learn from them, which is a trait that emerges in Orange/Green (rather than Blue). I'll also cite his unwillingness to use force as a means to preserve the crumbling Soviet Union, which had begun falling apart partly as a consequence of the democratization he introduced during his six years of leadership. Of course he had his faults just like everyone else, not the least of which were his sense of pride and his tendency to butt heads with other political figures in Russia who would go on to become lifelong enemies, with Boris Yelstin being the most important of these. He was also much better at maneuvering within the old Soviet bureaucracy than he would be at playing the game of parliamentary politics that he fought so hard to introduce to Russia (when he decided to run again for President in 1996, he only managed to win about %0.5 of the Vote, and would end up in Pizza Hut commercials to fund his post presidential work). He also failed to anticipate how democratization would ignite nationalistic fervor in the other Soviet Republics, leading them to want to break away from the Soviet Union. The economic reforms he introduced into the Soviet Union, though well intentioned, sadly weren't enough to revitalize the Soviet economy and reverse it's longstanding trend of stagnation, and also weren't enough to fight the systemic inefficiency and corruption within that system. The chaos that the country was thrown into in the nineties made things worse in many ways for ordinary people (though how much of this is Gorbachev's fault as opposed to Yeltsin's is debatable).
  20. Thanks again for the recommendation. One of the most impressive things about the book so far is how its tone of sincere irony is so effective at conveying profound ideas in such an engaging (and self demonstrating) way. Or the way it uses this to convey important ideas in a way that undercuts it's own self importance. Brilliant. Humour is such a good way of creating emotional engagement with ideas, it's a pleasant reprieve from the dry academic tone that I've come to take for granted in philosophical works. Also brings to mind some of my favorite works of fiction that make use of sincere irony to leave a lasting impact (the Good Place comes to mind...).
  21. Something in between a fictional novel and a philosophical treatise (the book is a Socratic dialogue between a man and a gorilla, and is an examination of human culture through an ecological and mythological lens), I read this back in my early twenties, and credit it in large part for helping me to move from SD Stage Orange to Green.
  22. Another excellent discussion between from Vaush with Denims on the relative merits of Socialism vs Social Democracy. I'd really like to give kudos to Vaush for how respectful and productive his discussions tend to be with people who represent different socio-political belief systems from his own. Granted Socialism and Social Democracy aren't that far apart politically, but I've also seen him have perfectly amiable and respectful discussions with Libertarians and young Conservatives. I consider him to be one of the best personalities on Youtube when it comes to discussing politics (granted I'll fully own that there's a lot of overlap between Vaush and my own socio-political worldview). That said, while Vaush makes a number of excellent points in this video, I do think that Social Democracy is preferable as a matter of pragmatism. I could see the United States transitioning to a Social Democracy within my lifetime; market Socialism on the other hand, even if preferable in many ways, still seems like a long way off, if it ever happens. Don't let the Perfect become the enemy of the Good, and all that.
  23. Couldn't institutions like banks (whether worker co-cops or credit unions) provide many of the functions of Venture Capitalists? Is there any reason why investment in a company has to come from individuals with hundreds of millions of dollars, rather than through publicly owned or worker run institutions? Couldn't public grants and low interest loans for pro-social business also cover a portion of that as well? Is the idea of a worker owned business whose model is to invest in other businesses that wildly unrealistic? As to the stock market, while it does serve an important function under our current system, the resulting legal requirement to prioritize maximizing profit over any other consideration has led to a host of societal problems, of which I'm sure you're well aware. I would propose that the stock market would still exist, but rather than investors getting to dictate how a company is run when it goes public, they would gain some form of Representation in the decision making process of the company. Perhaps boards of directors might be made up of something like %40 representing the interests of Investors, and %60 representing the workers. Under many Social Democracies, companies have a legal requirement to include worker representation on thier boards of directors. What I propose would simply be an expansion of this. Obviously this would only apply to co-ops that decide to go public under this sytem. If either of these two ideas are unworkable in your view, I'd be interested to hear why that's the case. And again I would argue that the system as a whole is an evolution of Capitalism and Social Democracy, rather than a complete restructuring of society. Or you could perhaps think of it as a democratization of the current system.