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If they woke up to their true self they just woke up into another dream. Not to mention, the true self relative to a dream character is just consciousness, so the witnessing state or awareness behind the I am would be apparent, and would perhaps persist upon actually waking in their bed. If enlightenment apparently occurred then all ideas and concepts held as real, and the experience of being someone, would simply clear up, and what would be left is this, without anyone knowing what it is, which is already the case...

It only helps insulin sensitivity a slight amount, and not even as much as whey protein and exercise, so it probably had nothing to do with that. It certainly does take mercury out of the body, so it was probably that. It has been around 3 years. Still good.

@VeganAwake Yeah, I guess it's best to say there wasn't really trauma. There isn't anyone trying to follow the apparent story of dealing with life, though life does apparently still happen. There isn't anything accepted or denied.

Hey! Yeah I’m not saying that at all. All I’m saying is: You necessarily do not want enlightenment (this; death), if you think it’s something that can be achieved or experienced at all in the future. No exceptions. And the tone of this is absolutely flat matter-of-fact — nothing wrong; nothing right — but it can certainly be considered good news! Edit: The thing is, you’ll perhaps read that and think “okay so therefore...” No; there is no therefore! Lol that is the dream. Nothing wrong with it...in fact it is perfect — I’m merely clarifying the statement. Now this is what I assumed every comment would be ?. Even thought of putting something like “yeah sorry, I’m slow” but it didn’t happen to me nor did it even really happen so... ?? ? Sounds logical. But once it’s complete, it’s recognized it never was completed. There was apparently a lot of contemplation that seemed fruitful at the time.

Oh ok Yeah I didn’t actually achieve anything though. In the end it wasn’t a process, it just seemed like a process. There never was trauma. Not sure what the psyche is exactly but yeah I can’t even think of a response that would make sense. Remembering the past doesn’t really seem to arise. Surely it can happen it’s just apparently not happening now lol. Interestingly, it’s clear here that what you’re doing, probably without realizing it, is asking me to tell you a story.

Huh? Random question... but the answer I guess I’d have to say is there isn’t any? Not that anything was really resolved, but I don’t understand the question or where it’s coming from frankly

Totally

Though, just to be clear, it didn't even really happen! It only apparently did. But literally the least meaningful/dramatic event possible. The only thing dramatic about it is how hilariously undramatic it is lol

And to anyone fearing enlightenment, this can serve as reassurance that you will necessarily not be forced into it unwillingly. So there is truly nothing to fear. Maybe you're thinking "who is he talking to?" All I can say is I did fear enlightenment (death!) -- there was absolutely no reason to, and I mean that was truly a completely delusional view, since if you want it (or more accurately “stop not-wanting it,” since you actually cannot want it), it happens, and if you don't want it, it doesn't happen. Literally. Even for literal unwilling death of the body — as soon as you die, you will of course no longer be “not-wanting it.”

I always thought that when nonduality speakers said stuff similar to this, it wasn't quite as simple as they describe -- I just thought they couldn't articulate the unspeakable. I can't remember exactly what I'm referring to, but in any case, as far as what I've said here? It is literally, exactly as simple as I describe. You simply don't want this liberation, and that itself, clearly is still liberation! So this is literally exactly what is most wanted (longed for but with no one longing), it's just that, if there is experience, there will necessarily be an experience of wanting something else -- you could say this is because what is wanted (or longed for)... is the experience of wanting something else! And even if that “something else” is simply a future that’s the same as the apparent present. It's that simple!

Loved the video you just did on that!

@RMQualtrough In extremely high doses or with lots of conscious development, contemplation experience, stillness, and insight, LSD is quite like 5-MeO. In fact, LSD is more 5MeO-like that n,n is. The effect / experience, anyway... not the duration lol

That's what I mean... It's true in the same way the self is true -- it seems real. I've had past life experiences myself.

For the most part, yeah. Past life experiences; profound mystical sense of oneness; etc. Ego-dissolution as well but it's less of a void than dissos and more of an un-contextualization of everything.

Of those, I've only tried AL-LAD and 1P-LSD. 1P is better imo. Yeah I'm waiting for that too. Sounds pretty good. I think freebase 5-MeO doesn't work plugged but salt does (not sure though).

Sure, there is no reincarnation. Absolutely. But there also aren't people... If there is an apparent experience of people as real, don't overlook the possibility of an apparent experience of reincarnation as real.

5-MeO-DMT and LSD-25 are the best for me. Idk if you have access to LSD-25 but ime, even though the visuals and general vibe and intensity of the trip feels almost exactly like 1P-LSD (probably the best out of the ones you listed), LSD-25 seems to be far more suitable to past-life regressions; ego-death; God-realization; etc. 110ug LSD is always a very fruitful experience, whereas the equivalent in 1P (at least 140ug) is just not as transcendent for me.

For real! Your trip report is almost verbatim what happens to me on dissociatives, lol. And that didn't always happen! I used to be able to take close to 100mg ketamine and basically just have a fun lucid dream with ego dissolution... Now with probably 50mg it's pretty much literally the end of the universe! Just the infinite matrix of perceptions just fluctuating in absolutely nothing, with no life in it at all, basically exactly like you described. Completely shocking. Disconcerting, even! The "cause" of it seems to be somewhat related to a suppression of memory -- when there's no context, no further context can arise.

I enjoy experimenting with that view as well.

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Ah. Well don't fix what ain't broken! I know what you mean about "close to eternal dissolution." I honestly feel like if I were to dose just a bit too high these days -- especially ingesting a dissociative while peaking on a 5ht2a psychedelic -- I would not be coming back.

Supposedly it's more effective about 1.5 inches in, with a total of about 1 ml liquid, so that the anal columns can be soaked -- the place with the highest and fastest absorption rate. But dissociatives are more effectively insufflated, ime. I usually plug psychedelics, even LSD -- not all tryptamines though as they don't seem to be as water soluble as lysergamides and phenethylamines.

No only for maybe 2 hour peak tops, or at any point if I take a few bumps of ketamine. The rest is kind of on the edge of it though so yeah trips are nothing like they used to be, unless I dose low, which just produces a very clear high consciousness state similar to witnessing... but again, the whole trip is sort of right on the edge of that void and subsequent God-realization I described, and it’ll feel like everything including personal will is “God’s breath” or something. And the visuals as well as all the senses are very spacious and paper thin and energetic. Space and time start to collapse at many points and it’s like the universe is creating itself out of pure paradox or something. The distance between my face and hand feels like it could be the diameter of the entire apparent material universe; general weird stuff like that. It’s been over a month so it’s a little hard to remember lol.

Well it’s indescribable, but there’s no separation; perceptions kinda floating in spaciousness without any time carrying something through it; forever disappears (or forever appears; can’t even tell the difference in that “state”), then when I come back down, forever re-appears and its absence is replaced with me. That’s a total story as it’s impossible to describe but yeah basically: the whole of everything becomes apparent, and it’s not moving. ?? lol And yeah I’m sure you could say there are visuals and wacky perceptions, but they have absolutely no meaning at all. No one is experiencing them, which makes it impossible to even remember them they’re so unimportant. Another story: the entire “matrix” of everything is just itself, with no one conscious of it. And cause and effect are apparently so obviously unreal it’s basically impossible to even imagine what cause and effect would mean -- they're simply no longer imagined to be real. When they are no longer imagined to be real... they aren't real. They never were real. Its actually disconcerting. Each time that event is about to happen, each time I dose, I’ve totally forgotten what happened the previous trip, even though “I clearly know what’s about to happen” (I even described it here lol), and then I am alerted to the each-time-forgotten infinite profundity of what’s about to happen, which then vanishes, and all that’s left is everything. And then “I” springs into existence by imagining what it’d be like if it did exist... As if to say, quite literally, "it's Now or Never," lol. I dream up the entire universe... in so doing, God (wholeness or "true" self appearing as me) creates my self and the whole universe timelessly and I “come back” into a “real” body. Again, story, but it sorta goes there.