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What was revealed... Seeker: no one is saying this, and no one is being spoken to, but... The only reason this enlightenment/paradise is perhaps not apparent over there (i.e. you are experiencing being on a path, or even experiencing any circumstance at all), is because you don’t want this enlightenment/paradise. It just simply is that way. So you can relax. Though of course, not really. It is good news though -- if you don't want enlightenment, you don't even have to have it! So this is already liberation even if it's not apparent! What else is there to say? Just became damn obvious. Edit: It was also revealed that this is obvious in every case of apparent liberation.

I’m not sure but this concept is recognized in medicine — they use EDTA or DMSA (double thiol), not NAC (single thiol)

It appears to be an experience.

There is no experience here. This is not the time and place to worry about that though. You’re on a roll ? ❤️

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi Precisely.

? Sounds like a beautiful view! (Not saying it’s a dream.) ❤️

But so does Leo point to it... and Leo is imaginary... you see? ? Tell me you see that!? This is big.

Wow your mind is open! Just keep on doing what you’re doing man. ❤️

@EntheogenTruthSeeker That was a great fucking response from him, wasn’t it! ❤️

That’s literally exactly the appearance here ❤️

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@Consilience lol I didn’t say that oh nvm you were talking to him sry

@EntheogenTruthSeeker The appearance has no bounds. Anything can happen. But it happens for no reason at all. [1] happening for (or in order to achieve) [2] is how the experience lives on. It’s just an appearance. Complete and utter freedom. For nothing. For Christ. Something happening for nothing means something happening is not something that happens. Now that is a miracle.

It’s all just an appearance, but enjoy it while it lasts ?? But really, there is nothing wrong with that. Jesus can certainly apparently play a role in all kinds of awakenings. Keep on keepin’ on! It seems like this is happening for something, right? Well, in apparent liberation, it’s recognized that it doesn’t. This happens for nothing. Sound bleak? Well, it’s actually where the freedom is. No bounds. Endless. You could think of that nothing as Christ if it makes you feel any better, but even that is not required.

Even if “you stop thinking,” you’ll still have the subtle thought of moving through time. When you stop thinking even that, you don’t even stop thinking, as there wasn’t anything there in the first place that could stop: It’s recognized by no one that there was never anything going on, much less “thinking,” in the first place... So there was nothing there that could stop. Certainly no “one” who thinks. Thinking is just what appears. Someone thinking = experience = illusion You never are thinking. You experience that you are thinking. But there is only everything or what apparently happens, appearing as anything, including thinking; experience; awareness; meditation; chair; sitting; door; food; bed; seeing a tree; love; agony; fun; anger; interest; passion... everything.

^^ OP, your ideas about Christ are not Christ. What you refer to as Jesus, is something you made up. Not even that; it just appears.

Neither here. It seemed to happen in the past though. Mostly with psychedelics. The knowing that apparently faded yesterday was not associated with any substances whatsoever. I no longer believe that psychedelics, nor anything else for that matter, have any power for making liberation apparent.

^^ Yeah that would be rather unwise. Not that there is such thing as an "enlightened individual," but I get what you mean. There also are no unenlightened individuals. The individual is already enlightened of its own reality, but apparent liberation is possible -- apparently happened to "me" just last night. It's not an achievement any more than it's a failure -- it is neither of those.

lol who gives a fuck just saying Everyone is innocent

Well enlightenment is all there is. 1. Thing -- happening for -> -- 2. Something else... is the dream 1 and 2 are actually just Heaven appearing as 2 things.

"Near-death" (and especially God-realization) is absolutely extraordinary. Death is utterly ordinary -- it's literally this, lol. Although...it's also absolutely amazing.

No one is enlightened

Yes exactly! Also something funny that just came up: I don't even know that I can't remember lol. Nor is there someone who could.

Yeah, that apparently happened last night. Something really funny about it though: it was such a nothing event, I can't even remember if it happened before dinner, or after...