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? Sounds like a beautiful view! (Not saying it’s a dream.) ❤️

But so does Leo point to it... and Leo is imaginary... you see? ? Tell me you see that!? This is big.

Wow your mind is open! Just keep on doing what you’re doing man. ❤️

@EntheogenTruthSeeker That was a great fucking response from him, wasn’t it! ❤️

That’s literally exactly the appearance here ❤️

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@Consilience lol I didn’t say that oh nvm you were talking to him sry

@EntheogenTruthSeeker The appearance has no bounds. Anything can happen. But it happens for no reason at all. [1] happening for (or in order to achieve) [2] is how the experience lives on. It’s just an appearance. Complete and utter freedom. For nothing. For Christ. Something happening for nothing means something happening is not something that happens. Now that is a miracle.

It’s all just an appearance, but enjoy it while it lasts ?? But really, there is nothing wrong with that. Jesus can certainly apparently play a role in all kinds of awakenings. Keep on keepin’ on! It seems like this is happening for something, right? Well, in apparent liberation, it’s recognized that it doesn’t. This happens for nothing. Sound bleak? Well, it’s actually where the freedom is. No bounds. Endless. You could think of that nothing as Christ if it makes you feel any better, but even that is not required.

Even if “you stop thinking,” you’ll still have the subtle thought of moving through time. When you stop thinking even that, you don’t even stop thinking, as there wasn’t anything there in the first place that could stop: It’s recognized by no one that there was never anything going on, much less “thinking,” in the first place... So there was nothing there that could stop. Certainly no “one” who thinks. Thinking is just what appears. Someone thinking = experience = illusion You never are thinking. You experience that you are thinking. But there is only everything or what apparently happens, appearing as anything, including thinking; experience; awareness; meditation; chair; sitting; door; food; bed; seeing a tree; love; agony; fun; anger; interest; passion... everything.

^^ OP, your ideas about Christ are not Christ. What you refer to as Jesus, is something you made up. Not even that; it just appears.

Neither here. It seemed to happen in the past though. Mostly with psychedelics. The knowing that apparently faded yesterday was not associated with any substances whatsoever. I no longer believe that psychedelics, nor anything else for that matter, have any power for making liberation apparent.

^^ Yeah that would be rather unwise. Not that there is such thing as an "enlightened individual," but I get what you mean. There also are no unenlightened individuals. The individual is already enlightened of its own reality, but apparent liberation is possible -- apparently happened to "me" just last night. It's not an achievement any more than it's a failure -- it is neither of those.

lol who gives a fuck just saying Everyone is innocent

Well enlightenment is all there is. 1. Thing -- happening for -> -- 2. Something else... is the dream 1 and 2 are actually just Heaven appearing as 2 things.

"Near-death" (and especially God-realization) is absolutely extraordinary. Death is utterly ordinary -- it's literally this, lol. Although...it's also absolutely amazing.

No one is enlightened

Yes exactly! Also something funny that just came up: I don't even know that I can't remember lol. Nor is there someone who could.

Yeah, that apparently happened last night. Something really funny about it though: it was such a nothing event, I can't even remember if it happened before dinner, or after...

If they woke up to their true self they just woke up into another dream. Not to mention, the true self relative to a dream character is just consciousness, so the witnessing state or awareness behind the I am would be apparent, and would perhaps persist upon actually waking in their bed. If enlightenment apparently occurred then all ideas and concepts held as real, and the experience of being someone, would simply clear up, and what would be left is this, without anyone knowing what it is, which is already the case...

It only helps insulin sensitivity a slight amount, and not even as much as whey protein and exercise, so it probably had nothing to do with that. It certainly does take mercury out of the body, so it was probably that. It has been around 3 years. Still good.

@VeganAwake Yeah, I guess it's best to say there wasn't really trauma. There isn't anyone trying to follow the apparent story of dealing with life, though life does apparently still happen. There isn't anything accepted or denied.

Hey! Yeah I’m not saying that at all. All I’m saying is: You necessarily do not want enlightenment (this; death), if you think it’s something that can be achieved or experienced at all in the future. No exceptions. And the tone of this is absolutely flat matter-of-fact — nothing wrong; nothing right — but it can certainly be considered good news! Edit: The thing is, you’ll perhaps read that and think “okay so therefore...” No; there is no therefore! Lol that is the dream. Nothing wrong with it...in fact it is perfect — I’m merely clarifying the statement. Now this is what I assumed every comment would be ?. Even thought of putting something like “yeah sorry, I’m slow” but it didn’t happen to me nor did it even really happen so... ?? ? Sounds logical. But once it’s complete, it’s recognized it never was completed. There was apparently a lot of contemplation that seemed fruitful at the time.

Oh ok Yeah I didn’t actually achieve anything though. In the end it wasn’t a process, it just seemed like a process. There never was trauma. Not sure what the psyche is exactly but yeah I can’t even think of a response that would make sense. Remembering the past doesn’t really seem to arise. Surely it can happen it’s just apparently not happening now lol. Interestingly, it’s clear here that what you’re doing, probably without realizing it, is asking me to tell you a story.