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@RedLine I agree with Frank there but I think if Leo replaced the word awakening with insight in the title of the video then Frank would also agree with Leo. I know Leo is not talking about the same enlightenment/liberation Frank is talking about, because Leo specified several iterations of it, meaning it’s not total liberation. Enlightenment is pretty much the end of mystical experiences altogether, which is why psychedelic use tends to die down after it.

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Incredibly awesome stuff.

If you're looking for a teaching, look elsewhere. Nonduality meetings are basically just fun, not really effective for anything, except perhaps allowing some beliefs about enlightenment to fall away.

I've said things on it enough times. Leo can do the rest. There's nothing else I know that I haven't posted/commented here. Copied and pasted comments are in between the ----------'s. The rest is additional information. Disclaimer: ALA referred to here is not the omega 3 fatty acid, alpha linolenic acid. It’s alpha lipoic acid. AKA thioctic acid. I don’t have any experience with chelators besides ALA and DMSA, but DMPS certainly seems to have merit as well. ALA must be taken no less frequently than every 3 hours, and DMSA must be taken no less frequently than every 4 hours (i.e. e3h is even better) — both must be taken at this frequency for at least 72 hours straight, otherwise the chelation round was not only unsuccessful...you may have just damaged your body and likely your brain. Anything other than these 3 chelators, zeolite, and in rare cases, EDTA, for chelation, is dangerous and anyone advocating it has no clue how chelators work. The double thiol group acts as a loose but effective hook of sorts — a lone thiol group will just spread metals around haphazardly (possibly causing damage and stress), without latching onto them and actually taking them out of the body. ALA, DMSA, and DMPS are double thiol chelators that are safe when used correctly. Andy Cutler’s writings, and his posts and wikis on onibasu are where you go for further info. ---------- I didn't feel anything off 600mg ALA + 100mg DMSA e3h for 30+ day rounds, fwiw. I mean, I didn't get side-effects. The brain fog and fatigue went away. And ALA only affects mercury (and arsenic, which is not as big of a deal). DMSA chelates lead and mercury. Btw 64 hours is too short. That's cutting it way too close -- healing/damage ratio is positive by the 72 hour mark for adults, and maybe 60 hours for small children, but you might as well get the ratio as high as possible... Aim for 96+ hours; preferably 7-14+ days. The longer the better, provided you keep copper under control. You CANNOT take ALA for long cycles without zinc (and preferably molybdenum too) 4x/d, or you will be profoundly overloaded with copper. --------- It is very, very risky, unless you do it right. It cured my chronic fatigue but I did it all-in, hardcore style. 6 month cycle with only a few 3-7 day breaks. With every ancillary carefully selected for copper-toxicity control, alarms so I'd never miss a dose, etc. I never had amalgam but by God there must've been something in my body because damn it worked. I dosed ALA and DMSA every 3 hours around the clock for months on end. Started at low doses and worked up to 600mg ALA / 100mg DMSA e3h. Falling blood levels cause redistribution, so the key is to not let them fall, ever, until you inevitably have to go off -- at which point there will be damage, but the goal is to have the healing net-outweigh the damage. Break-even healing/damage ratio is achieved between hours 60 and 72 of a cycle. Once you make it that long, you know you've succeeded for that round, and you should continue to milk it as long as you can handle to get that ratio up. Thus, long rounds/cycles are much more effective, but harder to deal with side-effect wise... and it carries the risk of oxidative stress from the DMSA, and copper toxicity from the ALA (avoid eating nuts while on ALA). I didn't really have side-effects. As soon as you miss a dose, that round is over, you need to take a break, and if the missed dose occurred before hour 72, the cycle was basically not successful. It can be especially helpful if you have anything significantly greater than perfectly healthy amounts of mercury, lead, arsenic, cadmium, and even iron in your system. The copper overload induced by the ALA very effectively purges iron from the body -- something that may be quite helpful if one has eaten a lot of iron-fortified foods in their life. The reason chelation studies haven't shown much in the way of curing chronic fatigue is simply because they dosed every 8 hours. DMSA must be dosed every 4 (or less) hours to prevent falling levels, which alone is responsible for the redistribution damage and prevents the healing/damage ratio from being a positive number. ---------- You can get it done a lot faster if you do long rounds. Let me explain... The minimum round-length is 72 hours in order to be reasonably certain that the healing/damage ratio is a positive number. The longer the round, the higher that number. Falling systemic levels of the double-thiol chelator are what cause redistribution, which is why you have to take the chelator so frequently, and why longer rounds are far more efficient -- your levels don't fall until the very end of each round, when you stop taking it, therefore you should minimize the amount of times you have to do this, via going as long as you can handle. The only reason not to do them for long stretches is an inability to handle it. A 3-4 day round and a 3-4 day break every week will clean out sufficient mercury/lead within 2-5 years (closer to 1-2 years if you did 1-2 weeks on / 1-2 weeks off) -- the same thing can be achieved with one 6-month round, though you shouldn't actually do it that long. I basically intended to do one 6-month round but there were a few 5-7 day breaks (each initiated upon accidentally missing a dose) so it ended up being essentially three 2-month rounds, in the end -- that's all it took. I recommend planning on a 6 month round and just taking a 7-14 day break each and every time you inevitably accidentally miss a dose. And btw, each 50% increase in dose results in an 18% faster rate of mercury excretion... Since taking larger doses results in comparatively less redistribution, taking larger doses (ramp up as you can handle) will not only speed the process up a bit, it may also have a bit of a buffer effect, protecting you from times when you miss a dose by 30-60min, which should rarely happen, nonetheless. For the majority of my largely-uninterrupted 6-month cycle, I was taking 600mg ALA and 100mg DMSA every 3 hours. ------------- E.g. If you take 100mg ALA every 3 hours for 72 hours running, that would be a 3-day (72 hour) round (or cycle), which is the absolute minimum length the round must be, since you damage yourself every time you come off, but damage while on-cycle (on-round) is minimal -- it's almost all heavy metal excretion (no redistribution) while on-round. The break even healing/damage point occurs after 60-72 hours (of consistently taking the chelator every 3 hours), so it would be to your benefit to do rounds much longer than this. The fastest route would be a 6 month round, but I don't think that's ever been done and it's not advised. I essentially did three 2-month rounds with a 1-week break between each. Doing it for long stretches at a time significantly decreases the total amount of time you'll have to spend on-round before you clear out all the heavy metals you need to. However, copper toxicity can be a problem with ALA, so you'll need to take both zinc and molybdenum 4x/day -- twice a day is insufficient. Even taking 7.5mg zinc and 250mcg molybdenum (the appropriate amounts) 4x a day each will not stave off copper toxicity forever. And oxidative stress can be an issue with DMSA so you have to take antioxidants. Does that clarify? --------------- Those were all the relevant posts I could find. That's literally all I know, but I'm happy to answer further questions if you need clarification. Again I don't know all there is to know about the subject, so I doubt I'll be able to provide anything else. But perhaps there were some posts I missed where I went into some other details. Good luck! Remember the zinc and molybdenum 4x/d when using ALA. I'm not sure if it's best to take breaks on the zinc/moly in between rounds, or to keep using them off round -- that is one example of something I am unclear on myself -- there seem to be pros and cons to each option -- it's very likely neither choice is gonna kill you though. I'm not the arbiter of truth on this. ^^ ... EDIT 5/24/2021 — additional explanation for the above paragraph. After your final round you should definitely continue to take the zinc/moly 4x/d for some time (probably at least a month), to purge residual copper, which will likely be quite high at this point. When you’re no longer planning on taking more ALA, there’s no reason not to do this... ALA causes some zinc overload but not nearly as bad as it does copper overload, and nothing purges copper quite like zinc... On ALA, you want to take just enough zinc to keep copper retention somewhat under control (30-50mg daily in 4 divided doses; it actually won’t even prevent copper overload, it’ll just slow it down, lol), and too much zinc will just exacerbate ALA’s zinc retention, so it’s a balance... But once ALA is no longer in the picture, if your copper is high, you can continue the zinc for a little while with generally no issue. Since the zinc is basically a limited resource in the scenario of ALA use (as in you shouldn’t take too much of it because it’s only a matter of time before your zinc levels become too high as well), additional means of reducing copper retention would be very wise, such as molybdenum (1-2mg a day in 4 divided doses), stimulating bile flow, and avoiding dietary sources of copper (such as nuts) — the zinc is not optional though, as those options don’t come close to the anti-copper affect zinc has (related to the metallothionein mechanism). There is some evidence that ALA depletes biotin in a hazardous way if you don’t consume extra in the diet or by supplementation. And never EVER stop DMSA before ALA. It will cause net redistribution into the brain. Stop them both at the exact same time or stop the ALA before the DMSA. If DMSA didn't have a slightly longer half-life than ALA, stopping them both together would not be safe -- but DMSA leaves the body slightly slower, so it is safe to stop them concurrently. This would not be the case if using extended release ALA, but you should never use extended-release ALA to begin with, since the absorption rate differs at different points along the digestive tract, and it hasn't been studied enough. Do not use extended-release anything in chelation. I don't know this, but I have an intuition that it may be prudent to start with a few DMSA-only rounds to reduce body mercury content, so that when you eventually introduce ALA, it won't start with the potential, temporary issue of a net increase in brain mercury -- though even if you did start with ALA, that issue would only happen if mercury concentration was greater in body than across blood brain barrier, and even if that was so, the issue would of course only be temporary -- after all, you're aiming to eventually get essentially ALL of it out, indiscriminately from everywhere. But I'd imagine even temporary increases of mercury in the brain are not desirable. This is a bit of a nod, it seems, away from ALA-only rounds, at least in the beginning, but Andy Cutler didn't mention that issue, to my knowledge (idk maybe he did), and he probably knows best. So I wouldn't worry about it. And if you want to go by the book (so to speak), time on should equal time off. That's not what I did, but that's what I'd advise as a measure of safety.

Yeah she definitely can transmit energy it seems. Very heart-intense being.

They advocate self inquiry. So does Rupert Spira. And they say you’re already enlightened but the good ones say it remains for you to realize that. They provide teachings. The nonduality speakers like Jim Newman merely provide the message, for no reason. They do not provide teachings. Those are the main distinctions I see. I don’t prefer one or the other really. The only Neo teachers I really don’t like (can’t think of any off the top of my head) are probably recent students of Neo who think they’re at the end of the path but really aren’t and then they preach that everyone’s already enlightened and you not only can, but should, stop meditating. “The message” points to the non-conceptual, energetic collapse of the duality between bondage and liberation.

That’s what happens when you awaken. You stop hiding and let the bad and the good out that you’ve been holding in your whole life. It’s different for everyone but that’s certainly my sense of it and it seems at least somewhat universal, though some people might simply be “that normal” that it’s not really noticed.

It generally takes tons of effort (or at least purification and maximization of your desire for it) until it doesn’t. Relaxed yet incredibly diligent effort.

I can kind of understand that. But sometimes after 8 hours I still feel like it could have gone longer and it would’ve brought even more insight. Plus there’s something about LSD-25 — supremely effective for God-realization... the other analogues like 1P are no substitute; they are just not on its level, in my experience. Even when dosed quite high so as to produce more intense physical and visual effects than my usual effective LSD-25 dose of 110ug — took me a while to get the effective dose that low though; I would generally not tell someone to expect God-realization on less than 125ug LSD-25. I know people that meditate and yet don’t break through to superconscious states even on 150-200+. And the body load of LSD is very much tied to its ability to produce ego death and open the God state. It’s similar to 5-MeO in that regard. The more overwhelming the body sensations, the more conscious it’s making you, generally.

Meditation should not have been that boring for more than about a month. You try TMI? I was getting into states that made crack/heroin speedballs seem like a joke in comparison. Though I did absolutely pour my heart any soul into it. Not saying you didn’t. But maybe try again with less seriousness yet more consistency.

Papaji, Mooji, and many followers of Ramana Maharshi. They generally advocate self inquiry and say there's nothing to do to be enlightened because you already are enlightened. Versus nonduality or the message which is not a teaching, and says nothing, but points out the reality that there's no one to become enlightened.

If she weren't authentic, it certainly would be lol. But since I only sense authenticity, I don't see it that way. I think she just comes from a theatrical lifestyle/background.

There actually is hippie nonsense out there. This is basically resonance; in a way, metaphor. She isn't claiming anything.

Yeah I can certainly agree that listening to them would be an incredibly inefficient if not useless way to awaken. But I still consider them miles better than Mooji or people just claiming there's nothing to do full stop. I have heard them pressed on these matters and it is very clear to me they'd (at least most of the time hopefully) say stopping your practice as a result of listening to the message is a misunderstanding of the message -- i.e. meditation happens or it doesn't. They inadvertently remind people all the time that they're still living in separation, ironically -- Neo-Advaita does the opposite of that, by literally saying no you're already enlightened. Contemporary just casually reminds that this is home, and there's no separation.

I see a big distinction between Neo-Advaita and this -- Jim Newman, Tony Parsons, Andreas Muller, Anna Brown, Andrea Reflects, Kenneth Madden, perhaps more... Lisa Cairns, etc -- aka contemporary nonduality (I've heard it called). Neo-Advaita says you're already enlightened and there's nothing to do, which is hopelessly taken on as a belief -- I wouldn't call it nonduality. This contemporary nonduality consists of a message being spoken that points to nothing; the absolute -- they rarely say there's nothing to do... and even if they seem like they do, whenever pressed, they always make it very clear there's no one to do that anyway, so who is giving up the search? It's made very clear that thinking or knowing you are enlightened already is just a game the individual would play to avoid liberation. In Neo-Advaita, you can supposedly know (or believe) you're enlightened. In contemporary nonduality, you can't -- because unlike Neo-Advaita, it does point to liberation, which is beyond mere belief.

Individuality, sure. But there is no individual that is in any way separate from everything. The story can appear as different from apparently different perspectives, but there is no absolute perspective.

Deep insight! But the devil or ego is simply a program; reaction; assumption; separate experience. It has no substance. It's basically the reified knowledge of good and evil by mere free assumption. God subsumes it and uses it as a tool, in order for the story to seem to play out exactly the way it does, which is perfection. At least that's one apparent description of the story.

I’ve purchased a lot of 100, 110, and 140 mcg tabs over the years. Much of it from the same source.

Your degree of contemplative fitness and realization of the emptiness of reality will allow you to go deeper without getting a bad trip. Though bad trips aren’t necessarily something you need to avoid. I would get yourself prepared with a serious meditation practice + contemplation most of the time, and then when you’re ready, take 110ug — that’s the best dose to take, in my view. It’s sort of the lowest effective dose for a potentially ultra-insightful trip. Not that microdosing 25ug wouldn’t be worth trying in your case. It’s my dose (110) even as a “veteran,” though sort of worked down from 250-1000ug. 110ug works best now ?? If you try a microdose (10-25ug), or a mild dose (30-75ug), just to get your feet wet, make sure after that you wait at least 12 days before you take the trip dose (100+ mcg).

Nothing goes full circle into everything. Emptiness too, is empty. Empty-fullness; wholeness.

You referring to n,n-DMT there? If so, my experience was the same. Somehow n,n is supposed to be less fearful and more fun than 5-MeO... My experience is the exact opposite. 5-MeO is like blissful pure blinding white God mode; n,n can be almost psychotic. I actually found LSD-25 (not analogues) to be a bit better for God-Realization than 5-MeO, since the thought stream and the story are a little more vivid and interesting on LSD, and it just has a flavor that is more conducive to lighting up the absolutely endless/infinite nature of the story/imagination (rather than simply obliterating the ego before you even know what’s happening) in my experience. Not to mention, the almost-too-long duration allows for much more to be explored. 5-MeO can be dosed more frequently, sure, but there’s something about that long duration of LSD that’s irreplaceable — kind of like how long meditation retreats have absolutely no substitute for producing the wildest states of samādhi. Also, just remembered, back when I used them, I noticed that synthetic cannabinoids were very conducive to ultra highly conscious states. This was before I was even consciously or knowingly involved in spirituality, contemplation, meditation, or pretty much any serious consciousness work, so at the time even high dose psilocin was not getting me into God-mode or really even anything close (though at the time I would’ve thought it was if I had known about this stuff). With that said, the synth noids seemed to actually be more powerful! I do kind of wonder how they’d affect me now. I actually haven’t thought about it much but I really think it might be worthy of consideration because I am not kidding... at the time, they beat out psilocybin mushrooms! For me anyway. Like high doses (3-7g) of very potent fungi. Though I think the main reason I stopped was sourcing, so idk if they’re all that available these days. I’m sure they probably are, but I guess I can’t really recommend them regardless, as they are quite linked to health problems and even fatal overdoses. Even so, I do think they’re likely at least in some ways more powerful than 5-MeO, considering how far out they got me at the time — beating ketamine too, come to think of it! Though I think 5-MeO, LSD, and perhaps ketamine and a few others, along with contemplation, are quite sufficient for what we’re doing here. Just mentioning it because I remembered it.

@EmptyVase The Drake and Josh theme song? ?... uh... wait... Yep. Fuck, it’s actually legit ? ?

^^ Precisely — no difference between any two circumstances / situations / arisings. However, this is actually already fully realized, but not by anyone who is experiencing themselves as separate from what happens (everything). When the separation is seen to have no substance at all, and never did have substance, then Heaven becomes obvious. Then, it’s recognized there was only ever Heaven.

This is all there is. This is not experienced by anyone. Ever! “But that’s only from the absolute perspective!” You say... Yet, it remains absolute. Also.: This is exactly as it seems, but it doesn’t have to be, because it’s already everything. It’s exactly as real as it is unreal. There is no separation of any kind at all. It’s a miracle. This is already not experienced by anyone. You are a dream. I don’t know anything about what I just said.