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? Anyhow, the point I was originally making is simply that the body that dies is not your body. That’s all. The owner of the body is assumed to be a constant... But the only constant is nothing, which is everything constantly changing. The constant and the changing are not two. There isn’t two, period — the awesome is the ordinary, etc.

God loves everything precisely by being everything. It’s overwhelmingly chaotic simplicity.

Oh, spirituality is completely useless. There’s no value to anything at all whatsoever. Life is already complete. And you’re right, except it’s worse than that: nothing works — it can’t work, because nothing needs fixing.

Well there’s nothing here that could even understand that question. So, in a sense, of course not! ? The you referred to is a total dream. However, there is, apparently, life appearing as a human being.

Me always sees in such a way. It lives in reality. Life has no need for me, or reality (which is me). When the body dies, there isn’t anyone in that dying, because there was never anyone alive. There was just what apparently happened. I’m talking about a complete collapse of all ownership, such that no one has a body. The funny thing is, looking back on memories, it’s impossible to find the me anywhere. It simply was never there. There’s only unknowable, un-understandable, unconnected life appearing. And I’m not saying something that you can use as some truth, as this is not what I was looking for; I was looking for something else — there is nothing else.

There is no ego (if you mean "I") here. Just saying. There's just what seems to be happening. There was the illusion of a life, which was an unbreakable illusion because it wasn't there in the first place to be broken. And when it's recognized (by no one, I'm afraid) that it was never there, all that's left is what seems to be happening. Life does not care. It doesn't need to care. So when you refer to death of the body, all I can say about that is that it's what seems to be happening. As in it's not really happening. The only one who would need that to happen is me, so I can go on believing I have a life now -- there's something called death in the future but what I have now is life. As if life actually has some need for that -- it's complete as itself. Did that clear it up?

Life seeming personal, isn't personal. That's basically it. Kind of disappointing, certainly. The personal is already not needed. It's just what appears. Impersonally.

Yep. It's not even that life is perfect. It's that life doesn't need to be perfect. Thus, it is whole and complete already. With no other anyway.

THAT too, is wholeness; freedom; infinity

@Kksd74628 Sounds great! Good luck brother.

Ah I see. When I said "in that sense" I was simply referring to death being unknowable. I wasn't saying bodies can't seem to die (lol). They still don't actually die though, since that would be a story/imagination about what's happening. And there isn't an exclusively real happening in the first place.

The body would cease to function of course.

He still won't know it. There is no death in that sense. If someone dies and knows it, they aren't dead. If someone dies and doesn't know it, they aren't anything, including dead. They are only dead in the story from another's pov. Death is another word for the-unknowable-as-separate, but life is already unknowable. Death is separation, and there isn't any separation.

@Regan The formless never takes form. Form is not separate from formlessness. There was no beginning. There is apparently the imagination/story of a beginning. The relative is the absolute -- it didn't come from anywhere.

Not necessarily more spiritual. But less selfish and special? Perhaps. In so-called "high conscious relationships" it is entirely possible that "cheating" isn't even a meaningful term, because one isn't limiting the other through their need to be exclusively, energetically and sexually, tied to them.

When the experience/filter of separation falls away, the body can hardly take the massive increase in lively energy. But that's because there's no person left in the body, using "my body" as a vehicle to obtain meaning and happiness from "things" which are separate from "me."

I'm hesitant to advise on this, but intuitively, I'd have to say you're still not "all-in." A way to rectify this, it seems, is simply to get really good at meditation (to the point of manifesting bliss on demand, which interestingly is almost a direct result of calming the attention's tendency to wander or even waver), and then read Rob Burbea's Seeing That Frees.

The Big Bang is the story of where this came from. This didn't come from anywhere. It simply is freely itself. Or if you want a model that includes the Big Bang, this is the Big Bang -- it's all there is. The Big Bang doesn't happen in time, and therefore certainly didn't happen in the past. There is no before... Or after. The singularity is spread throughout time and space, so to speak.

True But awakening/enlightenment as you call it is a realization of the emptiness and freedom of self and phenomena -- what I'd term a profound enlightenment experience, insight, or awakening, or realization that you are God imagining your birth, time, and everything else. But the final enlightenment (liberation) is not exactly a realization... Even though it is the end of mystery, it is only as such because it's the end of knowing, it is the end of the energetic filter of separation, and the sudden surprise that this is perfection already, because there's nothing else -- the end of right and wrong (and indeed all duality), and the end of the journeyer or experiencer of real circumstances happening in time as part of a path to happiness/truth/beauty/freedom. It is not within the purview of experience, and thus has no connection to any insights or realizations -- the seeker of enlightenment never actually "gets there." It is said that awakening is seeing the emptiness of the void, and enlightenment/liberation is seeing the fullness of the void. The former can be experienced as a profound gain. The latter cannot be experienced at all (as it's utterly paradoxical... fullness=emptiness), and certainly not as a gain -- in fact, it's an utterly, unimaginably complete, total loss; everything=nothing. Although "before" enlightenment occurs -- before I AM falls away (a story, as there's nothing happening in the first place) -- it is, as you say, recognized that everything is imagination (story). And "then" there is no before or after... Or inside/outside; etc.

This is life and death simultaneously. The big bang and the big crunch -- timelessly. Death of the person is here right now, but the person isn't really there, so there is no death. Death is just the falling away of a belief of separation -- since most intuit the remainder of these falling away at the moment of bodily failure, that failure of the meatsuit is labelled by most as "death."

@Vivaldo Hmm... Not remotely. For me anyway.

I've done this. Did you mean LSD first? Last thing you want in LSD trip (10+ hours) is MDMA comedown (well, it's really not that bad). LSD peaks in 4 hours. MDMA only lasts like 4-6 hours and LSD lasts at least 10. Take the mdma sometime after the LSD starts to get pretty intense.

18 years old in college. Was texting a girl for a few days, went to a party together and went back to my dorm. Was pretty fucking awkward but after that it was nowhere near as bad. Was still awkward until the 3rd or 4th time -- not with that first girl; never talked to her again lol, thank God. Then it was great.

I really think this is fantastic advice and all, but personally, I never had much success until I threw all that PUA shit out the window. HOWEVER, I had already learned it and internalized it, so yeah... Guess I'm more of what they call a "natural" (not at first). Though apparently I am very good looking (I'm told very often -- I honestly can't tell; hilarious lack of any sense of what an attractive male looks like), so I wouldn't take my advice. All I can say is I used to have an extremely difficult time attracting women, until I didn't. Intuitively, I would actually say the thing that helped THE most was Metta (loving kindness) practice. And your first time will be utter shit. Even so, you'll no longer "be a virgin," which may feel like a weight has lifted.