The0Self

There is no point at all. Unconditional love has no preferences and takes no prisoners. It's all allowed. Just total absolute freedom. No meaning or purpose because one thing is not objectively better than another to unconditional love. Unconditional love is inconceivable.

That's what's appearing to happen there. It's neither right nor wrong.

@Thought Art Beautiful. Then that's what's appearing to happen there.

That's still a realization and therefore a dream. Infinity is not ultra big, it's no space. Eternity is not ultra long, it's no time. There isn't a beginning or an end, nor a middle. Or a here and a there. It's just totally ungraspable. And the big joke is it's already exactly whatever is appearing to happen. BANG It never goes anywhere. It's just an eternal explosion.

Lol if there isn't a you, how have you realized that? It's clearly a closed loop of I-know. It's what appears to happen. What you really are is nothing being everything, but that literally cannot be known. How can nothing know anything? You might say: well, I'm everything, that's how! But everything is nothing... There's only what isn't but it appears to be.

It may seem like it. It literally does not relate in any way shape or form. Utterly completely not connected. Liberation is all there is so there can be absolutely no relationship. Awakenings and realizations? Abso-fucking-lutely 5meo can have something to do with that (apparently).

Right before you become a Buddha, it's recognized there was never anyone to become a Buddha, there never was a Buddha, nor a universe, or anything at all. It was all a dream. So no one ever becomes a Buddha. There's just ungraspable, unworkable infinity and every apparent one is being done like characters in a play without any actors.

Yeah sometimes what looks like a freakout on the outside is a ridiculously complete and peaceful unity on the inside except there often is no inside/outside in that state. Still nothing to do with liberation but it can have the flavor of a glimpse. Certainly can reveal God and stuff like that. It's just an experience after the fact though even if they are gone during it.

Yeah... Perhaps, but I gotta say, it's a little different when it's vaped. It's like the big bang. They aren't even there to scream. Screaming apparently happens. Body just gets shocked by the energy of the experiencer abruptly no longer being there sapping its energy.

The longing to trip is the longing to never need to trip again. The longing to know is the longing to never need to know again. The longing to drink is the longing to never need to drink again. The longing to realize something amazing is the longing to never need to realize something amazing again. The longing to seek is the longing to never need to seek again. The longing for something just around the corner is the longing for exactly whatever appears to be happening. That can resonate, and it's heard when it's heard. It's game over when it's heard, and the apparent individual will never hear it. Part and parcel of this particular longing is the illusion that there are separate things and life is logical and knowable. In reality, life is illogical and unknowable. So this longing engenders life with exactly what's longed for, as it's like anesthesia for the full-on out of control unknowable aliveness that this really is. Closed loops.

Waiting is seeking. Stopping seeking is seeking. Nothing can be done about it. If it’s happening then that’s what’s longed for. End of seeking is end of waiting and end of stopping. That’s basically the point of life. Only apparently. So no.

It can be pointed to by illuminating that the seeking’s purpose is actually to “take the edge off” the boundless freedom. Without it, life is in free fall. It already is like that, of course, but with the seeking, life seems logical and understandable. In reality, life is illogical, wild, and unknowable. Nothing wrong with those things. Life is short.

Ultimately nothing works and nothing is real. There’s only nothing appearing to happen. Even physicists land at this brick wall of nothing. So nothing is happening (except for in the illusory experience of the apparent individual). What isn’t is appearing to be. What is sought is the end of seeking, which is this. What an alcoholic seeks is the end of the need to have another drink. What a drug addict seeks is the end of the need to use another drug. The longing for what’s just around the corner is the disguise wear’d by the longing for exactly whatever is already appearing to happen.

Exactly. It just means all there is, is all there is; there's no separation. Energy seems closer than divinity, god, truth, etc. The most meaningless, ungraspable, and (perhaps most importantly) unusable word/concept you can think of would probably be even closer than energy . But it's pointing to a paradox which can't be spoken and is completely beyond the mind. This is what isn't, but it's appearing to be -- that seems even closer. But of course nothing actually describes this.

Exactly how this character seemed to quit addictive recreational drugs. They just suddenly didn't exist anymore.

@Vibroverse It's all just energy. And not even that.

@Endangered-EGO This is like seeing actors in a role who have forgotten they aren’t really that character. But no one sees that.

@Endangered-EGO Then that's what's appearing to happen there. There will never come a time when you understand or get this, as there is nowhere else to go. The seeking energy can apparently sputter out in hopeless despair when it can no longer stand avoiding the infinite (total story). You don't actually want it. It's full on chaos.

The seeking for this is like a bandaid on its wild, out of control, full-on-ness. So if there is seeking, the seeking is literally ONLY for exactly what is already appearing to happen. The self/need never actually falls away, but it can be recognized as never having been there. It's like you're experiencing (separate from everything) as usual, and then suddenly BANG you don't know if you're experiencing or not, because there is only unknowing. So then it's absolutely obvious there never was separation. This is utterly unbelievable. And yet it's actually too obvious -- that's how it hides. There is compassion here for seekers thinking they're a person with a life that they have to keep together and find security and safety in. But... It's kind of like watching someone have a psychotic break -- it'll be over eventually, and everything experienced by them was merely hallucination; they were never in any real danger. Actually it's even a bit less momentous than that -- it's just energy.

No one will ever reach enlightenment, because it's already all there is, and nothing will ever happen to anyone as there isn't anyone, and nothing ever happens (only appears to). The seeking for it is like a bandaid on its wild, out of control, full-on-ness. So if there is seeking, the seeking is literally ONLY for exactly what is already appearing to happen! It's absolutely fucking hilarious! And breathtakingly ordinary. Wild and free.

There's only what isn't. But it's appearing to be. Closest I can get to describing this. But it's still so, so far. And there will never, EVER, be a moment when this is understood. It never happened for me (there isn't one), it just apparently became obvious to no one. It's actually more obvious than obvious -- that's how it hides. There's simply infinite eternity, which is neither real nor unreal -- that's the freedom; no stakes or meaning or purpose of any kind whatsoever.

How long has it been? I seemed to have some brain fog and malaise for 4 days after, and then it went away. Back perfectly to normal.

It's simply because you don't know what you want. That's descriptive and entirely not prescriptive.

This is actually absolute chaos but it appears ordered. And it appears as actually ordered to the person. When it's seen as absolute chaos, there is no boredom or notion of wasting time, as there is no time at all. There is just immediately this big bang that never moves. And by the way, one of the most surprising things about this is just how chaotic it really is. This is utter freefall. Craziness. The illusion of control hides it. When there's no controller, holy crap. And it's already that way!

Knowledge can appear to happen. There’s just no one separate from everything who actually knows anything. Doesn’t mean knowledge can’t appear to be.