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Not sure I follow you on that lol. That's just what's appearing to happen there, in any case. You said everything belongs to me and you, but there is no separate me and you. There's no one to take responsibility or not. There's no denial of responsibility, just the lack of conviction in it. Nothing is lost in that, there's only unconditional love. You could say infinite responsibility, leaves no one responsible. You've apparently only taken a half measure responsibility.

That's what's appearing to happen there then. There's just what's appearing to happen, and there's no separation; nothing belongs to anything, there is only everything. God is just an idea if it is believed in by an apparent separate individual. God points to something else, yes, but that can't be known. Knowing is the dream.

It's not that you don't have a past. That's not it... It's that the you referred to is just an idea, so it couldn't have a past nor could it not have a past. Again, it's not merely that you don't have a past... Nothing can be had in the first place anyway because there aren't real separate things, only the ungraspable appearing as everything.

How do you know there is actual truth that can be ascertained with experience? This investigation has perhaps more to do with unknowing the false rather than knowing the true. But one could say truth, if it exists, surely will be the last thing standing when everything you don't know for sure, and everything you thought you knew for sure, is gone.

In a dream at night when the dream just begins somewhere and there seems to be real continuity... How do you know this is not that? Not saying this is a dream but how do you know there isn't no real continuity? You can't know, just like in a dream. You can't know it because there is no real continuum. Memories just appear. How did you determine that infinity can't appear as a universe with a history with no problem, without that history having even taken place?

No one is punished. In the story it’s just a natural apparent evolution and learning process. And there’s no God separate from you so could say it’s God teaching itself. But of course there is no real teaching going on, there’s just liberation apparently happening without cause and for nobody, timelessly.

There’s just what’s appearing the happen. Nothing appearing to happen. Boundless energy (nothing) being everything. The past is boundlessness appearing as that. As is the future. As is the appearance of you. And there’s no real separation (nor even connection) of any kind at all. There isn’t anything which is ever really caused. Infinity is not limited by causality or even logic or anything else. It’s well within the infinite’s capacity to appear as an entire universe with a history without that history needing to have actually taken place. It’s actually over before it began — well, the beginning and the end are not two.

And in that, there is only love, which leaves nothing left to be said at all.

?? ? Try diligence but have fun and perhaps don’t take it too seriously.

Well first off, love (needless totality) is the natural way things are — that there’s nothing wrong or right with anything, including suffering. So the only one who would ask “why” is an imagination of love as separate from itself and therefore illusory. Just a story. Love longs to imagine, for no reason at all (it has no need), what it’d be like if it could genuinely ask “why is there suffering?” and so here we are. There’s never any separation between love (nothing being everything) and what’s longed for. Again that’s still a story but it points to the unspeakable nature of love — and there’s actually no reason to even call it “love”... it’s simply “all there is.” There’s a big difference between 1. love you can handle, and 2. infinite; inconceivable; unconditional love. The understanding of unconditional love is not even survivable, so it’s truly just inconceivable and it has no answer — it doesn’t need an answer; it doesn’t need anything at all.

Halfway period of uncertainty between bondage and liberation. Perhaps associated with solipsism and/or nihilism.

Yeah if it's neck then idk... I was mainly referring to the general pain caused by profound stillness in half lotus for long periods, usually primarily in the legs.

This simply isn't true. I've seen people commit before sex multiple times. Both parties simply have to be on the same page a far as waiting and priorities go. People don't even necessarily fully commit after sex even when it appears they're committed to another. No one really ever actually commits to someone else anyway, only to their own idea of another separate person, it just plays out as it does and needs apparently get met or they don't. Commitment before sex is usually a ruse, a rarity, a pretense, an anomaly, or a neediness. It's a pipe dream and commitment apparently happens when it does, or it doesn't.

Yeah this. Drop expectations perhaps but also let it unfold naturally.

@Endangered-EGO Yeah I can give instructions, why not. Be very still, perhaps start with some meditative technique like following the breath. follow the sensations in a very relaxed but diligent way with clear bright full awareness of the whole egg-shaped energetic body sense in the background. Appreciate any joy that arises and let it build like a fire which you can add fuel to with continued close unwavering following of the breath. When it gets painful, continue with the breath following until it gets unbearable -- though if there's a lot of joy it might not even be a big deal, but I digress... Then place attention on the sensations associated with unpleasantness and dive into them in a relaxed diligent curious way to see what it is. Dive in completely like you can't get enough of it -- you want to find out what it is. Intentionally try to increase the unpleasantness with a sort of mind-dial on the unpleasantness itself -- it will have the opposite effect. Eventually you might break through and the pain may be just empty space essentially. You can zoom out like you said, but for this instruction it seems a more profound equanimity is associated with zooming in or rather absorbing-in. It's all a huge game, there are all kinds of things the apparent you can seem to learn and do and progress with.

There isn't anything at all whatsoever that isn't simply appearing to happen on its own without a separate controller or guiding mechanism. Even if there appears to be a separate controller or guiding mechanism, that too is just appearing to happen on its own. There's no one, no thing, and no moment neither in, nor outside of, what's simply just appearing to be. The only constant is nothing, which is everything constantly appearing to change. Movement never moves, and nothing controls it.

Fair enough. Anything that naturally elevates or reveals well-being is alright.

SDS. Maybe needle in fingertip? Don't actually do that. SDS is sufficient -- you can't stop anytime if you've determined already that you're going to sit for x hours. I mean you can but not really -- it's SDS. Plus there are techniques that will induce so much equanimity you won't even want to move. Dive into the pain and try to feel into what it actually is. Turn up the dial of pain intensity intentionally -- it has the opposite effect if you've been still bodied and minded for long enough.

Exactly. I'd strongly suggest that it is in the best interest of cjoseph90 to drop this dream of hers like a sack of bricks and never look back.

Okay so this will never ever happen with a quality man. The only compassionate response is to suggest that you drop that expectation like a hot coal. Commitment never ever EVER comes before sex unless it's a rather dysfunctional relationship and/or a pathetic man. Drop that dream. Just a suggestion. Good luck though!

First of all, it was a joke. But also, I have plenty of experience with this type of stuff. Not gay myself, but lots of experience with testosterone, both high and low levels in myself and others. When gay guys use test, their libido goes up, and they're still quite gay. Simple as that. That's what seems to happen. I don't know what has led you believe this is not the case, but all I can do is point out what seems to be the case. See the my-3rd-to-last-comment-in-this-thread (begins with "I used to be on subutex") for more details. And I can go on if you'd like.

If a gay male with low test gets put on testosterone shots, he will be ready to fuck anything male that moves lol.

I used to be on subutex, which tanked my testosterone to near zero. Can't remember the exact units, but normal is about 400-1200, and mine was 18... Well, I was absolutely just as straight with no testosterone in my body, just with a slightly decreased libido. Testosterone has nothing at all to do with orientation. Just has to do with aggression, confidence, motivation, and libido (my level is well above 1000 now and I can notice all four of those traits increased slightly relative to when I was at a rock bottom level of 18) -- partially because it indirectly potentiates catecholamines via the sensitization of certain receptors (beta adrenergic, I believe).

Gratitude doesn't necessarily have anything to do with duality. It can seem to, but even then I can't really think of anything more powerful than gratitude... Except for maybe humility. Or futility. I don't know... When liberation apparently happens, gratitude is about all that's left -- it survives the apparent collapse of duality. I mean... So does basically everything else though, except for maybe guilt and shame and self-hate and self-esteem etc... But the thing is, gratitude is likely to be rather extremely prominent. In the dream, gratitude is just about the fastest way to so-called "higher states."

Sure, that all has to do with the expansion of consciousness, which has nothing to do with enlightenment. This is enlightenment. There just might be the appearance of someone who knows, in that, hiding the natural way things are which is that there is only enlightenment and it's not for anyone nor is it any particular thing or state nor does it know itself dualistically.