The0Self

Knowing actually doesn’t require knowing — good thing, because there isn’t any. There aren’t any paradoxes. All paradoxes merely point to what is beyond knowing — nothing is everything, etc. There isn’t really a nothing or an everything which are the same. There’s simply what appears to be, which is singular, unconnected, unbounded, not separate, without meaning, and without solidity. The changing never changes. Nothing isn’t even nothing — it’s simply unknowable, not two, and all there is.

Events that apparently led to other ones which aren’t preferable — that can happen. But it’s not really regret, because there’s already only what’s appearing to happen, and no possibility of it being otherwise, and no matter what happens, it could be no other way. Whatever is done is already done. Regretting that liberation didn’t happen earlier though... Kind of beside the point, because liberation doesn’t actually happen, and in a sense it’s just the recognition that it’s all there ever was anyway. There is no self to be liberated, nor liberated from.

There’s no you. Only nothing, which is apparently everything. If enlightenment happens, you won’t be there to notice it. There is no real perspective or center to the boundless appearance.

There’s just no separation at all. You’re identified as a program which apparently exists for the sole purpose of connecting what is already not separate. There are no other lifetimes as there is no one alive, separate from life itself, or whatever you want to call everything, or what appears to be.

^^^ While finite bad is bad and finite good is good, bad without limit is good without limit, because that which is without limit is nothing.

This is already what is and isn't looked for. The not looking for it is the looking for it, and vice versa. What appears to be happening is everything. There's nothing outside of it, and therefore nothing inside of it either. Absolute emptiness at equilibrium, apparently being everything -- utterly without any limit of any kind, including logic, and with absolutely no meaning, purpose, or value, or direction, or goal. When it turns out that this, contrary to how it may seem, is literally unknowable? Oh yeah, that is terrifying.

It is completely unexpected, yes. There was never anyone on a path and no one ever does anything. Everything is being done by nothing. What's looked for hides ingeniously by already being everything. The longing for "a something" is actually the longing for exactly whatever appears to be, aka everything.

There's only nothing appearing to happen. What is not, appears to be. The answer is that there is no answer. There's no answer to everything, because there's nothing outside of everything to answer it or grasp it.

Maybe. But strictly not taking any at all drugs out of principle to me sounds like a bit of a hang up.

It is true though. The apparent you necessarily does not want enlightenment. That’s its whole game. It’s not substantive though, it’s an added on piece of software that keeps things seeming separate and real, and logical and knowable and not-chaotic. So if it indeed seems to appear, that’s what’s longed for. If it’s not what’s longed for, the seeking energy can sputter out in hopelessness, but there’s absolutely no need for that to happen, and no way to bring it about, because all that’s left is nothing being everything, which is already the case. The terrible, great news is that the seeker/ego/doer is utterly impotent. It has never done anything. It's thinner than thin. It merely appropriates what happens as its own, which is not only a false claim, but it also it hides the fact that what happens is only appearing to happen, for no one.

If awakening is the falling away of the separate individual or rather the recognition that it never was real, how can the separate individual ever awaken? There never was one. It's an appearance. And it will never be known when it falls away, first of all because it's already not real, but when its nature is seen, there's obviously no one left to know whether they're awake or not. I can only imagine y'all must assume awakening is knowable, in which case you're talking about something entirely different, such as a state in which an apparent one is untouched by what arises -- that state can apparently arise, but it's not the liberation often referred to, because that's already all there is.

Sounds great! There's no such thing as enlightenment anyway. If it seems like you are enlightened, that is perhaps a state of transcendence, or an understanding of the emptiness of phenomena, or perhaps the reverberations of a glimpse which is now being seen as important or valuable. There's nothing wrong or right with that, it's simply what's appearing. All there is, is nothing (illogical boundlessness) appearing to happen. Whatever appears is simply boundless energy in that form. There isn't any meaning or purpose (limit) to anything at all. When so called liberation occurs, one thing that is obvious is that it's the end of mystical experiences, because there's nothing actually happening. This is pure emptiness appearing as circumstances, which the apparent separate person appropriates as theirs/real.

At the same time, it just plays out as it does. And there's no way to get it wrong. Because all there is, is wholeness, and while nothing can be done, nothing needs to be done, as there's no one to do it anyway, and this totality is completely without meaning or purpose of any kind.

Choline being turned into trimethylamine-N oxide (TMAO) in the gut & liver could be the theory? I believe that is actually what it was.

From my research there can be issues with more than 2 eggs a day over the long term. It wasn't just the cholesterol though, it was the choline or something but I can't remember exactly. However if you eat 4-5 eggs at a time but only did so 2-3x a week, or nearly daily but only for short periods (a couple weeks), there would probably be no negative effects.

The forum is a timeless appearance of this boundless energy which is as empty as it is full, and without constraint. There's only the timeless, complete (and completely empty) appearance.

Neo Advaita -- enlightenment teaching -- Mooji, Akilesh (Sifting to the Truth) and also anyone else who teaches self inquiry. Nonduality -- there is no such thing as nonduality, but the term refers to what is pointed to (the unknowable), via exposing the dilemma of seeking, by the boundless non-communication which speaks to no one and comes directly from unknowing, and it's recognized there is no one separate from wholeness, and there's no intention in the communication -- Tony Parsons, Jim Newman, Kenneth Madden, Andreas Muller, Anna Brown, Mei Long, Ariana Reflects, Lisa Cairns, Tim Cliss, Richard Sylvester. Totally and utterly different.

@Vincent S Love Andain

Yeah that would basically be gaslighting/denial. Hunger is a function the apparent body must deal with. The thing is there's no one separate; no one in the body dealing with it. The body, which is boundless energy in that form, just deals with it. That doesn't help anything either, but it's simply pointing to what is beyond the story.

Sounds awesome! Nothing mattering in the end is far more natural than things mattering. The longing for something just around the corner is actually always the longing for exactly whatever already appears to be. There’s no one on a path. No separate things. Nothing known. What is wanted is what is feared: that anything can happen.

The knowing is and isn’t, and it, like everything else, is not relevant, because it’s what’s happening, and there’s nothing else, so clearly there’s no this either, so nothing is appearing to happen, and that’s nothing being everything. Everything is nothing.

^^ ? When self sees a thought, it deals with it. When no one is left, the (same exact) thought has no need to be dealt with, and it’s insignificant... it’s just what’s (already) happening — well, appearing to happen... it is and is not. And there’s nothing else, either. So to speak, if it could be done (though it can’t, because there’s no one), the “best” way to keep liberation (what’s already happening...) at bay would be to wait for it to happen. There, not there. Higher and lower are not two — total story of course, but it points to the unexpected. Invitation/suggestion to nothing to feel that already all there is, is boundless perfection without comparison... which is “at the same time” (time is only apparent) utterly ordinary and not an altered state (any personal experience).

Also... There is nothing resembling solipsism in apparent liberation or god realization. In liberation, there is just in-love-ness, for no one, with the unknown, which miraculously appears to be. God realization seems to be a resemblance of a non-state (time evaporates into eternity which has no time) that leads to a state with an immeasurably vast apparent benefit. Liberation on the other hand is not some state that can be attained, and there’s nothing which can be compared with it, since there is literally nothing else.

Kind of, yeah. More like energy appearing as roles, perhaps with the appearance of actors believing they're doing that role, when the role (as well as the appearance of the actor) is just wild ungraspable uncontrollable free uncaused boundless energy (life) expressing as that.

Not logically. It's just an understanding loop that can appear. Nothingness is infinitely bigger than a space or a logical reality in which an I could appropriate as its own.