The0Self

You didn’t arrive at the end, and I’ll just say: you absolutely don’t need to. If the final liberation is reached, “you” see through everyone and everything, including what you called “you” — your own character — not to their core, but straight through. It is quite clear here that, contrary to what I had assumed while on the path, meditation doesn’t even matter for this. But it can certainly make your life rather blissful.

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You claimed "1." I negated with "not two."

There is simply not two -- no separation. But that's not a claim, it's just what appears to be -- every claim is married to doubt.

It was mainly a joke, but also pointing away from obviously baseless lines of reasoning or assumptions. Ultimately there's only the appearance of a head, and no you, so you do not have a head. But in relative reality, others have heads, as do you when looking in the mirror. Your inquiry on this matter is very surface level, wherein anything will just be what appears anyway. A better question would perhaps be why do other people behave as if I were born? The answer would follow the same lines, even though birth is utterly imagined.

Exactly. “I” has no fixed definable reality.

Nothing

Thinking is not needed.

So, "I refer to I as I." Now, doesn't that sound just a little bit self referential; arbitrary; tautological?

To answer as I am now I would have to use the convention "I"/"you" which means nothing. It's just what's appearing to happen. Or, it could be said, it's just obvious when it's seen.

The crazier you sound, the truer your words doesn't always hold true.

Because there's already no you. Ta da!

That character is not happening to that character. That character is that character. There's no fixed you. You = I, yes, yet they can mean different things -- e.g.. when I am talking to you (so I and you are two separate things in that example) -- therefore they have no absolute defined characteristic other than what they really are, which is undefinable, which is all there is.

All self referential tautologies with no fixed definition.

You have no attachment to the experience of (some random person), so it does not appear for you. You have attachment to the experience of one particular character, so it appears for you. It's the same for every apparent individual, all of which are actually not separate. What's longed for is everything, and it's inescapable.

Why wouldn't they differ by religious background? Especially if they are themselves religious. Not to mention, the experience may have been completely indescribable, yet it's so profound they feel they have to at least try to describe it... And so of course they sprinkle their own conceptual overlay into the description.

(In place of) that which was forgotten -- the "memory" of infinity -- appears as a big terrifying hole that we call death or the unknown, and it compels the individual to look away (compels God to look away, and thereby fool itself into being an individual). The calling back toward the infinite can be as simple as a curiosity about this hole. It's a story, but in a sense, God made this big gaping terrifying hole so that even God would look away from it so that it can sufficiently fool itself in order to pretend that it's a finite individual on a journey to what's longed for. Of course that means the journey or whatever appears is exactly what is longed for -- which is, "by design" so to speak, not understandable (as least not in a finite sense through finite means). What "you" are is nothing (everything) -- infinitude -- imagining something else; awareness/objects. Obviously don't take this as absolute truth. It's not a process that actually happens in time like other things. This is just a pointing to what can only be apparently revealed directly.

The inability to remember things before birth, see things after your death, and experience nothing: So to speak, this is God saying “I’m not done here,” and “what’s the point of that (going there)?” Not that there’s a you that can do those things — that’s the point. There is only the whole of everything — it’s beyond solipsism.

@JuliusCaesar Nice. Probably the first existential crisis I had was after a week of, all of the sudden, astral projecting every night, after having been basically completely ignorant of anything at all spiritual or trans-materialist up until that point. It was like, “okay, okay, I get it, something’s up with what I call reality.” ?

Forgetting that "you" are infinite is itself the entire substance of "you" -- as in it's not even that you are infinite, as that would be a position and a meaning to the ungraspable. If something is forgotten then there must appear to be someone who (unknowingly) forgot -- that's all the someone is.

With infinite power, there is apparently the ability to forget that "you" are infinite -- this is apparently the purpose of the "you" in the first place. Nothing is serious or not-serious -- i.e. "this is seriously just for fun."

@silene Well nothing is needed but there's no real position, limit, location, scale, or context... So yeah, "things just happen (apparently)" is all that can really be said. Basically nothing can be said at all, since what's being pointed to isn't a thing. The reality of any context is illusory. There is only the whole of everything, and what's longed for cannot be escaped. Amazingly. The infinitely empty void being absolutely everything is utterly free of lack or need.

So the side plot in South Park s04e01 ("Tooth Fairy Tats 2000" or something) deals with Zen and enlightenment -- Kyle not knowing what to believe anymore after finding that the tooth fairy etc isn't real, then he feels time and self-existence intermittently fade out until he is everywhere and nowhere and becomes nothing and everything. And then his "I learned something today" was that all phenomena are like actors on the stage of consciousness which is unchanging. Yeah that was in a South Park episode in or around year 2000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRe-bKJi518&list=PLnjzVz1a4oZtkZLb1MLxr6g-PMjy2Cv3q&index=49

Feel free to skip the first 30 seconds of that first clip. Here are the two clips embedded. The first one should automatically play the second one from the same window but here's the second one just in case it doesn't. Just funny stuff.

"Jesus... Consciousness is The Ultimate Truth of Reality!" Not saying I (or you) ascribe to that, just seeing if that's what you meant.