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This is par for the course when the supposed authority’s teaching is even in the same universe as enlightenment. The closer the communication gets to that, the more there is going to be painful blowback and mayhem of all sorts. It just goes with the territory — not as a design, but as a likely unintended and un-prevented consequence. Some people hit brick walls that they’re sure are meant to opened, and others open doors they’re sure we’re not meant to be opened. Maybe it’ll evolve somehow, lol, but as of now, no one this happens to gets a guide on “how to do enlightenment right” — nor would that even make sense as it’s a contradiction.

Then no one is (literally).

The issue with that seems to be that Nahm’s incessant directness was, with respect to the context and goals of this forum specifically, becoming less like icing on the cake and more like a visible (at least to Leo) detriment to Leo’s endeavor of teaching — particularly God realization. Perfectly valid on both Leo’s and Nahm’s side.

Yes. You just described existence — imaginary. As a story, they (existence and imagination/intelligence) arise from each other freely and without cause, and without preconditions of any kind, including actually existing. The absolute unmoving unconstrained (to limits of any kind including sense/logic) happening which doesn’t really happen — is all there is (and isn’t). This is absolutely nothing happening. Nothing moves. There is no one left to care about or enjoy the state of enlightenment. But there already isn’t anyone separate anywhere. ❤️ ? Nothing that isn’t can ever be what is. ^ Both meanings are valid, in a sense — kind of like “no one is perfect.”

These places attract more homeless because it's easier to be homeless there than other places -- simple incentive-driven human activity -- sounds rather like a relative failure of the rest of the cities to me.

God simply wants anything -- and with no limitations, that's what God gets. Inconceivable perfection. Within its creative story-drama, it is always the case that it couldn't be any other way.

Because there aren't two things happening. There is no other. Awareness itself is the connection between what is already not separate... Thing is though, that actually doesn't make sense. Everything that appears, including time, isn't actually even "something appearing." @justfortoday has performed quite a nice explanation for this but in the end it actually is not logical, it's infinite.

Neo-Advaita is incredibly rife with delusion, but that's very different from the direct nondual communication of a human which no longer feels like a separate person -- which is incredibly rare. It is what Neo-Advaita aims to replicate but does so from an illusory intentional perspective.

Fair enough. Though even for that endeavor, having someone around who can be as authentically direct as Nahm is perhaps a good thing, and hard to come by.

That there is a base reality of any substance which is behind what appears — that is basically the whole illusion.

@WokeBloke Death as opposite to life is not real death. Life as opposite to death is not real Life. The life which appears to begin will also end. Only the Life which never began will never end — and that’s what This is. The life that appeared to begin is Life/This appearing as a life — i.e. life appears in This.

Precisely. But in the illusion, it’s not a bunch of binary code, it’s more like the attached image. The point though is that it’s absolutely direct, even if it appears as duality. I.e. hopefully it need not be said that the image is a mere schematic representation — The base reality is literally all there is and it’s not hidden.

@softlyblossoming https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e_HgOsAU5_I&list=PLPevnGcuhdhwKpaWaEW4bZCl4ZEJnkzO2&index=1

The feeling of being me is what you turn toward whenever a thought/object appears. Withdraw attention from everything but that. It's just that the mind may trick you into what that is, so if it appears to you, withdraw attention from the thought external to you, and fix it in the self. But yeah, not as a sort of infinite regress or stressful practice -- rather a gentle technique of simply turning away from thoughts and just feeling that you are... in order to facilitate self attention in this way it can be useful to: (to the exclusion of all else) very simply inquire into how you know that you are.

I exist -> I am that I am.

I’ll also add, it seems to be directly (almost precisely) correlated with what I would describe as “background gratitude.”

The actual appearance of what happens is precisely what is not actually happening. What that seems to arise out of, but isn’t actually separate from, is the wholeness which can’t be spoken but one could say is what’s actually happening because it’s the only reality.

No matter how crazy life gets, it's still merely a fleeting insignificant thought the ineffable God is having, so to speak.

@Federico del pueblo You're very welcome!

3 nonconsecutive days a week of training that involves at least one of each of the following movements: pushing, pulling, leg-dominant. Bare minimum 80-100g of protein daily; >60 g if vegan and maybe just simply can't seem to manage 80-100+ -- Preferably 120g (or way more) if lifting seriously. And get enough fats (not difficult). ^^^ Apart from the above rules, nutrition is extremely individual / varied. Barebones program backbone, 3x/wk: Standing Overhead Press 3x5-10 (after at least 2 lighter ramped warmup sets of 5) (pushing) Deadlift 1x5 (after at least 2 lighter ramped warmup sets of 5) (leg; pulling) Weighted Chin-up 3x5-10 (after at least 2 lighter ramped warmup sets of 5) (pulling) Perhaps some Side Laterals 3x10-20 if you're a guy who wants to look good, but the above 3 already have you covered for health and fitness ^^^ That's essentially an optimal general program outline for general health and fitness. Don't choose bench press for the pushing movement, unless you're also performing standing overhead press -- bench press by itself can cause rotator cuff issues over time. Can do squats instead of deadlift -- must squat to or below parallel; never do half squats as they're bad for knees Can do bent over rows (from the floor) or horizontal rows, instead of chins Cardio is great, but if it were to, say... prevent you from doing any lifting (though I'm not sure why it would), then it'd actually be harming you. It's a widespread misconception (and misnomer) that "cardio" is better for cardiorespiratory health than full body compound barbell lifts -- cardio is more like the cherry on top. Cardio << Lifting < Lifting + Cardio.

Nice Except, paradoxically, the I which never existed doesn't disappear -- in the end precisely just because, as you say, it never existed anyway. And also... the sunset is not knowable, nor is it separate from the unknowable absolute timeless infinite totality... which is all there is -- i.e. without other (alone, as you say). But it essentially has nothing to do with death -- in this context there is no death, there's only everything. Just clarifying in case you're reifying a sunset separate from a human being -- the human and the sunset are not two i.e. there is no reality apart from perception. Infinite cannot know finite, and all there is is infinite.

My intuition is that it seems to have something to do with the character's involvement in the story. Though that's really not a great way to word it. Not the involvement per se, but the degree to which the apparent character is liable to be associated with the apparent arising of held beliefs that aren't true. For instance, there is no belief crazy enough to be seen here as ultimately more false than any other, since they're just all clearly an appearance of the infinite, which has absolutely no limits. The visuals seemed to go away, and even get less and less over time, as there was a concomitant fading-out of the curious and very general quality of "knowing things." It's like when there's nothing more amazing than whatever seems to appear already, the psychedelic doesn't have to wow you with a bunch of visuals and entities and journeys from the subconscious, it just takes you directly to the heart of the matter -- reality. Kind of. It's in the story, but that sort of event horizon that was crossed at ~23 is what I'd associate with the beginning of the path of consciousness-expansion (or maybe call it the first glimpse of God-realization). But the beginning of the enlightenment path didn't happen until several years later, despite thinking that I was surely already on it. Again, totally in the story, but yeah that is what seemed to happen here.

Between age 16 and 22, I would go on crazy visionary adventures with psychedelics -- seemingly met aliens, etc. It seems I hit some kind of event horizon at age 23 and from then on, psychedelics got about 50x stronger -- but no more visuals, only God / nonduality / infinity / pure ineffability. n,n-DMT is no more visual than any other psychedelics for me now (well, as of about a year ago), it's just the same kind of "God blast" that 5-MeO-DMT gives except a little weirder feeling. No more aliens (and there definitely used to be). TLDR psychedelics can change over time. I used to get fully immersive visuals off a couple hundred ug LSD-25 -- to the point where I'd see angels shooting me with bows and arrows. When the trips got stronger, the visuals stopped, as did any sense of other-ness. So ime, for instance, to say one chem is more visual than another, kind of doesn't even resonate here anymore. Idk.

@RMQualtrough @Salvijus One could say nothing exists (as in literally existence = nothingness). Could also say all there is = existence, and nonexistence = impossible. Or you could say existence and nonexistence are not two.

The point is that even if there were, there’s no knowing (no one to know) anyway. There’s no one to know that there’s no one.