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Figured it was implied that “you” obviously refers to the false self. It shouldn’t have been misleading at all if understood correctly.

Thank you! Btw, you won’t believe it, but if you knew what liberation was like, you would not choose it — and you will not be the exception to that rule No need to let that scare you though! It’s simpler than you’d think. You can’t imagine what it’s like — simply because it’s what’s already happening.

? unfortunate username too. Mine, I mean

^^ However I still recognize that as the realization of cosmic oneness. Generally requires psychedelics ime. However unconditional love realization is not that — it’s the recognition that dissolves the individual completely so there is no one, and therefore one else to care about, judge, or to be unified with.

Yeah, you’re right. I thought I referred to Metta as love though. The pure love “emotion.” Feels more wholesome than an emotion imo

Those are all the same. “We” and oneness implies love or Metta. Unconditional love is completely different though because even though it judges even less than conditioned love, it also doesn’t care, because there’s no one else to care about. It’s beyond oneness.

I just assumed they meant upwelling feelings of kindness. The problem is that’s love in only one direction. There’s another kind of love out there. Far stronger. Caring and judging are two sides of the same coin — the most powerful, non-judgemental, unconditional love, does not care about anyone at all. Btw, it’s the one insight a person can’t survive — the degree to which it is understood is the exact degree to which there is no one.

All the time. Chest, face, sometimes hands, mostly not in any particular way besides an obvious in-the-air intuition that it’s all love anyway.

Yeah there can seem to be a resonance right in the so-called gap between each of: certainty-doubt, safety-danger, intention-expectation, judgement-caring. Because that's where it's obvious no one is, and there is no one. It's the place where you've never been certain nor doubtful; felt safe nor in danger; intended nor expected anything; judged nor cared -- that "place" is all there is. It's everything, or what apparently happens.

This one appears to get it. No one actually gets it. There is no one.

Well of course, you won't ever "be there." The recognition is that there's nobody to wake up. There's a false claim that someone needs to know something, so it appears someone is trying to know something -- there is neither someone nor something really happening. The aforementioned experience is what appears to happen, but it doesn't actually happen. As long as there's experience it seems like there's something happening. This is liberation for no one. This. There is nothing else.

That's easy: if what's happening is the experience that you are real, you will "have needs."

That's true, it can be a distraction thinking that the truth is not lost, but ultimately... It's actually true. This is the absolute. Not that amazing realizations can't seem to take place. It's just that, that does not need to happen "in order for" (the great delusion) ultimate liberation to be what it already is: ALL there is.

Yeah... It really can't be found lol. It can apparently be found, but never is found.

Well yes, of course we would say that. I certainly do believe (or experience that) there are degrees, it's just rather obvious that everything is for nothing, so there isn't really anything with the solidity to carry "degrees." But yeah, of course, there are definitely apparent degrees of Real-I-zation. At least that's what's happening "for" me.

^^ The degree to which it is understood is the exact same degree to which it is not understood. So there aren't really degrees, only apparent degrees... That's the miracle/mystery. How can what happens not happen? And yet, that's just the way it is! lol

I watched your video on Gender and was reminded that I could probably stand to ask more questions. Other than just doing self inquiry and psychedelics and getting life-purpose in order (which I assume likely must be part of the package), what can one do to bring an ongoing potential of Infinity-as-an-identity into daily life? My "identification-fluidity" is quite so... relative to what it used to be -- I haven't viewed my self as exclusively-human since about 4 years ago, nor exclusively-real for about 3, and it has steadily been loosening (there are of course ups and downs, but it's an overall very positive trajectory) -- but I have no idea just how deep it can go other than a very strong intuition that it's endless and boundless. I'm well beyond the point where, as a straight man, I'm disgusted by the idea of having gay sex, etc. And I've had realized God, Now, Infinity, no free will, Love, fractality, emptiness, and various others at least to some degree, with substances (mostly LSD and ketamine), and without them (Witnessing, Metta, Jhana's 1 and 2, etc) Most importantly (or most concerningly), I'm completely unsure of whether I already have access to Infinity as an identity... I am concerned this may be arrogance for me to think in such a way -- prematurely assuming I'm further along than I really am. Now if you would perhaps say: "oh... you'd know..." Well, I have known many things that turned out to be false (the process I owe probably half or more of my deconstruction and development to). I am certainly not as conscious in everyday life as I am when contemplating in stillness, especially on LSD + ketamine (which I usually don't combine), but very highly conscious states do tend to sometimes actualize for me here even without practice (at which point, "dying for the truth" would be welcomed, but that's not always the case). You seemed to indicate that you appreciate serious questions. Well, from the bottom of my heart, this is a serious question. Thank you, so much... ...That is, assuming the question even makes sense at all, which... I can imagine a few ways why it maybe wouldn't... But anyway. Thank you. (Done editing; just added a few statements)

That still seems like someone imagining there to be something else. There isn’t anything.

“I” am compelled to say, it’s getting basically incomprehensible even imagining what “identifying” is... lol. In the same way: there “not being someone here” is more different than “someone being here” than can possibly be imagined, simply because something being exactly the same as something else, is not a difference that is imaginable — there is nothing else! ? lol wtf

Well... It didn't make sense to me when I heard Leo say "infinity as an identity" -- I didn't know how one could identify as everything because identity of course implies one thing, and everything is not a thing at all -- this is everything, nothing ever moves, there's no time (literally completely made up concept) what apparently happens has no distance, and there's no reality (no reality = I am dream) apart from this zero-but-infinite-dimensional appearance. So I was relatively sure I had at least some access to this identification-state, but idk the limits.

Nobody has guilt, or a self... But yeah what you say does appear somewhat true -- it's not ultimately true, nothing is

"You" can't, I am real is a false claim. It doesn't exist. Nobody judges nor cares about anything -- ultimate freedom. If you want a better experience, you can try meditation, inquiry, psychedelics, pickup, cooking, anything. In this story I had success in obtaining powerful but temporary happiness with witnessing and self-inquiry, psychedelics, sex, etc. Time seems to be one of the last illusions to go, so If you want to do something that will get a supposedly thinner or more exalted experience, maybe try end of time teachings like from Rob Burbea, etc. No reason why I'm presenting that. There's nothing else.

That's not inquiry. Find the subject, or more simply, just turn away from all that is happening... constantly It has no use, but there's no reason not to do it either. It can be fun. Leads to powerful realizations, etc.

Yeah. It's just it, and not.

The degree to which truth is understood is the exact degree to which no one is there to understand it. Nothing even comes close. Sorry lol