The0Self

Nobody wakes up, but if Neanderthals had self awareness, the cognitive event known as enlightenment (collapse of self awareness / personal doer-ship) probably could happen. Of course, I don't know.

Seeker: So what’s it like in liberation and having no ego? No one: Liberation? Ego? What are those?

What is seen (well, what apparently happens) is all there is. The assumption that hides this is “why don’t I see everything else.” There isn’t anything else; you assume that what is, is knowable. All there is, is not known by anyone, it’s simply all there is.

@Javfly33 Find that place between: doubt and certainty, judging and caring, intention and expectation, safety and danger. There’s no one there, yet it’s all there is.

There’s no separation. Taking one step further into or out of perfection is not possible. I am you. (There is no we). This is everything. “The Infinite.” There isn’t something else. It seems like others exist, but that’s only because: you’re taking on a real perspective, of which there aren’t any.

No intention for confrontation. Merely saw an opportunity to share insight.

You can't fully realize God unless you realize what's in front of you right now (including the assumption that there is a you at all, if that's arising) is absolutely everything. Everything. You assume there's a bunch of stuff that exists, but hidden from your view. Full God-realization will not (can not) occur while that assumption is still in play. If that sounds crazy to you, just you wait.

When duality collapses it's clear that nothing is everything, real is unreal, etc. Solipsism is nonsensical without subject object. Subject, object, and consciousness are not separate even one single bit. That which can be said to be truly solipsistic is not an individual, and solipsism only makes sense from a supposedly real perspective (an individual).

This is not what actually happens but the view it can trigger is as close as I can point to: Imagine technology advances so (approaching infinitely) far in the basically infinite future that we realize we actually need to create the universe in the first place. With time machines and access to infinite consciousness we create the universe. That would be a rather empty universe, right? No real beginning or end? Self-created, and therefore empty. Again, that's not what happens, but the view it points to is closer than what is likely to be an alternative view. What "really" happens is simply nothing being everything. Relative is absolute; unreal is real; nothing is everything, empty is full. Unconditional Love.

@Someone here It's all just a story. The idea that in the future there will be nothing happening assumes that's not already exactly the case. This is, always was, and always will be a singularity. Leo posted on his blog a theory that certainly seems plausible, but it's still a story -- the idea that infinite expansion will eventually lead to nothing happening; a singularity, out of which a new Big Bang occurs. Ad infinitum. This is already The Big Bang. You are no closer to the beginning of it than the end of it.

Diagnosed: psychosis (several acute incidents; not at all chronic), opioid/substance use disorder (was relatively chronic). Suspected but not diagnosed: OCD, anxiety disorder. Diagnosed but not mental: narcolepsy. Better now on all counts. All have resolved, even including narcolepsy (not medically recognized as possible, to my knowledge). Suspected now: some of what could technically be described as depersonalization, derealization, and bipolar. But not diagnosed, nor to any extent whatsoever that is personally concerning or even unlaughable -- it just seems to come with the territory. I wouldn't have it any other way.

You are not-you doing mahasamadhi in order to be you. lol ? jk (just in case, lol) ? ? I’ll watch the vid later but I’ve experienced what I thought at the time to be “almost-mahasamadhi” several times — experience collapsed as did the entire apparent universe, my life, and all time such that everything was revealed to be “contained” in a zero-dimensional point of infinite energy. ??

Personal identity drops, along with the story, and notions of being separate. There’s nothing else, so where would “you” go? Death is a concept with no reality anyway. If someone dies and knows they’re dead, then no one is dead. If someone dies and doesn’t know they’re dead, then no one is dead.

Not even an experience, but a being. If in enlightenment there is any notion of having gained anything, there’s still further, but who wants cosmic suicide? ?

This. It's hidden when you look for it. It didn't come, it never goes. You are plants, dogs, trees, as much as you are your self -- that is to say, not at all. This has no separation. It's nothing being everything. No one can know it though. It's indescribable.

Though it could be said: there are no enlightened people... There isn't anyone. This is just what it is. All intention is illusory. All expectation is illusory. Others are illusory. Reality is illusory. This is natural perfection. It never started and never ends.

There is no such thing. It's all there is. But yeah everyone wants it and gets it. Already. So nobody gets it.

There already is no dream, though. This is death. This is Heaven. It's not somewhere else. No one is in Heaven, though. There just is Heaven.

It's like the universe is an infinite timeless funnel/maelstrom with apparent perspectives and no real perspective, making the perfect timeless playground for no one. And absolutely no separation. It's everything. Biologists studying cells are exploring a mystery that they are not separate from -- not one bit. This wholeness/no-thing doesn't even move. However, there's absolutely no sense of having gained anything. A pointer that is not true but can open up a similar perspective (though not really) is to imagine technology advances so much in the future that we realize we have to make time machines to produce the universe in the first place. That's not what happens, but it's like that -- empty.

Everything is nothing without me.

Well, ultimately, you're not wrong. We're talking about the infinite, which is beyond consciousness, so yeah there's no end to what can be known, meaning everything is ultimately unknowable (I mean...there's no end, so how could it be?).

@Regan Not to mention even if one could be self-aware of every thing, that still overlooks everything unknowable. So yeah the absolute goes beyond even itself. It is ultimately inscrutable, but that's why God-realization has no end point. A true God-realization will seem total every time even though it keeps getting more total, since infinity goes beyond itself, and God understands reality into existence by knowing the unknowable -- so each time it gets more total, it actually is total every time. It's a bit of a paradox.

Because there's no real you? That which could be called true self is not a self at all, it's no-thing everything'ing. No separation or other.

@machiavelli It doesn't ultimately matter to God, since God is murder, love, rape, community service, aid, strife, peace, and everything else. Ultimately nothing matters. How could it? Who, outside of all there is, could it possibly matter to? This of course means that even "things mattering" doesn't matter / is not denied. There is just ultimate liberation. Nonduality cares not, but also judges not.

I have similar realization. If you could, maybe tell me if you think I don't have this correctly; at least the part I can put into words, which is of course very little: I, the (completely) detached ego (imagined subject so that there can be object) (God; reality), understand the universe (reality) into existence, timelessly. I do this by using infinite intelligence to imagine "sense" out of the unknowable, which is absolutely everything, which is not a thing in itself, and is thus empty of any real meaning whatsoever. And this results in an apparent system that is infinitely interdependent and literally could not be made better, as there's nothing else. And the actuality of all this is 100% selfless, with no separation. The reason I did this is no reason at all, because I have no self nature at all; there is only infinity, and this Heaven all appears to happen for nothing (total selflessness) -- judging and caring are 2 sides of the same coin, and illusory, between which is no one, and unconditional love, which is all there is. This understanding is almost dumb-obvious for me, but I haven't been doing this work as long as you (though I do it basically constantly), so maybe you can tell me what's beyond that (basics, anyway) if there is anything (understanding-wise).