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Those that fight are literally convicts and low-live drunks from the provinces. But Russian society and culture are definitely not barbarian. Like to be fair if Ukraine was fully or half conquered nothing would really change existentially or materially for the Ukrainian people. They didn't live much better than Russians and they have a similar Eastern European mentality. Just 30 years ago they lived peacefully with each other in one country and served in the same army. They intermarry all the time. They would have been treated as equal citizens and go on with their life. It was probably Russia's original plan to conquer the eastern half and south of Ukraine and leave the way more nationalistic and monocultural Ukranian western part alone.

@withinUverse Nice, Thank you! Yeah, I am obsessed with art and plants haha. I am also very sensitive to stylishly dressed girls. "I like your style" is almost my only opener because I almost exclusively approach girls with sexy/feminine styles.

Why hairy though?

I need to get better at this, I want to pick up chicks that go (alone) to museums and botanic gardens, they are the highest quality ones. I actually subtly tried this by using observational openers, but still, I am overcompensating with extreme friendliness and dropping out very fast so as not to seem pushy or needy to have a conversation. I don't want to make it awkward as we are both confined in the same place.

@Leo Gura I think Ukrainians take full responsibility for manifesting their sovereign will to be with Europe, they are fighting it for it and they are even winning.

@Emerald Fair enough. Though I also understand the need to control certain books so as not to expose children to certain topics. There is for example absolutely no reason why gender fluidity needs to be taught in schools. If it is, it's because an agenda is being pushed. Which is very cringe and obnoxious and doesn't respect the ignorance and innocence of children (including teenagers.) People with outlying gender distortions are a small minority. Most boys that are feminine and overly sensitive are just that, boys! they will grow up and mature into men. So yeah let's just make sure kids know who Mark Twain is and spare them all that gender confusion a minority of the population struggles with.

@Loveeee When she was put on trial, the question was whether her visions came from god or from the devil. They couldn't find anything to suggest it was from the devil so they burned her at the stake on charges of wearing men's clothing. A perfect illustration of the mystical yet highly dogmatic worldview of medieval Europe.

Jeanne d'Arc!

@Emerald Having gender fluidity books in school is pretty fucked up. Shit like this got people voting for Trump. What's wrong with good old classic literature or scientific books about nature and the universe?

Yes and no. There is a lot of stereotyping here. The Russians were fully justified in their dogged tactics in WW2 due to the existential nature of the fight against such evil as the nazis. But in the cold-war era, the soviets demonstrated the reasonable effectiveness of their modern army in Afghanistan. Seemingly on par with America's in Vietnam. Though yeah with a bit more of the characteristic cruelty and the occasional wiping of villages off the map but still a decently effective modern army. It was only natural to assume that Russia has dropped the cannon fodder strategies of ww2. They only fell back to it because they don't want to retreat with their tails between their legs. Tactically sound cannon fodder strategies are a cold but effective way of capitalizing on your numerical superiority, It's exactly how The Union army turned around the civil war. They don't have some superhuman toughness, people that are miserable with no future and have nothing to lose are willing to risk and sacrifice more. You see this a lot in the middle east. Also unlike in the middle east, Russian mothers usually have only a few children if not just one, so they tend to be very anti-war and definitely not willing to sacrifice. How do you explain Russian women being so much more feminine than western women? in a sense they are weaker but not saying they aren't also tough in their own right.

No. Before the war, everybody thought the Russians could take on Ukraine easily including Putin. I personally even thought that Russia could hypothetically take on all of Europe's army combined. Now I feel stupid for saying this.

Very sad, the Ukraine war veterans and widows will have a lasting imprint on Russian culture.

@Tobia Russia is losing A LOT. Human lives, Wealth, Progress and it's geopolitical power has taken a huge hit. He is facing an entirely different Ukrainian army than he (and frankly everybody) expected. He also did not expect the West's unity and resolve. He assumed that the west was too spoiled, weak and preoccupied with transgenders and pedophiles to oppose the tough, down-to-earth Russians.

@Leo Gura Would you have said this before the war? He is vicious but also reasonably competent. In a sense, the war is an unexpected blunder for him and he is doubling down on it because of face-saving. He is a horrendous crook but honestly, I cannot paint him all black. For example, he is genuinely not racist and respects minorities. He always stressed that Russia is a multi-national country. Also, you could argue that the people in Donbas were bombed by Ukraine (before the 2022 war). So a limited invasion of the Donbas region would have been somewhat justified. America would have done the same if its people were being bombed. But yeah Putin's war, his WW2-style tactics, the lies... He brought a lot of suffering to the Russians too, fascists always end up bringing misery to their own people while intending misery to the other people, they can't help themself but to spread misery.

@koyadr3 It will definitely get easier with (years of) experience

@Leo Gura I Totally agree The girl I am now with was extremely standoffish when I approached her (She is a very closed-off Russian girl that had a bad day). But I turned it around in just half a minute. She said: "what do you want?". And I innocently responded: "I just want to meet you, if you don't want to that's fine." From then on her whole demeanor changed and we went on an instant date Sure but just don't be a try hard and also be demanding of her to invest as well. (have a look of disappointment on your face when "she just sits there". This can trigger a quiet girl to invest at least a little.) Sometimes fun and passionate monologue flows naturally, other times I just casually show her some (travel) pictures on my phone. Sure slightly boring but also no inauthentic gamey bullshit involved. Being a little plain, logical and cliche > try hard gamey

@Leo Gura I Totally agree The girl I am now with was extremely standoffish when I approached her (She is a very closed-off Russian girl that had a bad day). But I turned it around in just half a minute. She said: "what do you want!?". And I innocently responded: "I just want to meet you, if you don't want to that's fine." From then on her whole demeanor changed and we went on an instant date.

Plowing through on disinterested girls is uncalibrated and bad for your self-esteem. It's only something you have to do as a beginner but at some point, you need to be relaxed enough to feel up if she clicks with you. 10-20 seconds is enough for that. That's also enough time to turn an initial standoffish girl around. Any more investing than that is a sign of neediness and being socially out of touch. All game that doesn't take into consideration: Self-esteem, integrity and self-respect is unsustainable.

Exactly. It's not just insane, it's impossible. I would say going through the learning process to learn pick up is impossible to scale. Because of the sheer quantity of cringe and creepiness that comes with beginner (mass) approaching. But once you're socially calibrated and only approach girls that you are genuinely attracted to and are your type, it's perfectly fine if a good chunk of the population was doing this, especially in a culture that's socially free and embraces sexual polarity, like Latina and Slavic culture.

@StarStruck Being non-needy is a foundation block of pickup. Surely you're not needy all the time. I know of myself that I feel shitty and needy right after a flake of a good girl. But after a week or so I pick myself up again and get more detached. When you're pushing in an approach that's a sign of neediness. relaxation and coolness are the opposite: detachment. So yeah step 1: don't be needy After that comes the hard part which takes some real mastery. There is nothing wrong with desire, however, you do need to manage your desire. As soon as the girl finds out she can sleep with you she won't. you must give her room to chase you! I have had the most magical dates with hot girls where they felt very feminine and stimulated but flaked right afterward, why? she knew I would do her. So here is the paradox of dating girls that are 10/10: while being authentic and sexual you must always be reserved and unsure about her despite her being a 10. You can do this by sniffing out imperfections and teasing her on it. Having a skeptical attitude also helps a lot. You can even be skeptical of a girl that is too perfect. Tease her but also be genuinely detached and unsure. The art of game is turning the tables on women. Making them the desperate hornballs and the men the coy and precious subject of desire. Approach every date with the attitude: I don't want to fuck her (she must really earn it). Don't even try to take a girl home if she isn't literally attached to you and making everything very easy or when she hasn't desperately chased you.

You must always be non-needy/pushy and ready to let her go. Like "I would like to meet you but if you don't want to, that's okay". It's impossible to hold frame if you're not willing to give her up. Your frame/principles/self-respect always come first. When approaching train yourself to say goodbye to girls as soon as you notice micro-expressions of non-interest. (like looking away, energy is off, non-investment). Again your whole frame is "I would like to meet you but if you don't want to, that's okay". And when you do come across a girl that is into you she won't even shit test on neediness because she can feel that's a non-issue for you. Haha shit frame. She should have sensed that you only date the hottest girls and that she is not a big deal for you. The highest and most enjoyable form of day game is when you only approach the hottest girls that are your type and you're genuinely attracted to. This means no approaching of girls that are below your high standard or simply are not your type. For example, there are "objectively hot women" but if she is not your type you still don't approach her.

@StarStruck I got that particular question once: "do you approach more often?". I don't even know whether to consider it a shit test or a genuine question. I just repeated my opening line with full conviction "I really like your style" so this made her still feel special in a way. But in my experience feminine high quality girls will never ask such a question. Because they'll understand that this question is highly annoying and know that most guys want to approach them but are afraid to.

@Optimized Life Haha the stakes aren't that high here. If you want to try something just do it.

This is my pattern. Before the date they are respectful and respond within a good timeframe. On the date, the girls are clearly attracted and stimulated. After the date They don't bother anymore communicating with me in a respectful manner and flake. I often hear the words "I would like to see you again" but then never see them again. What is happening here?

@meta_male Oke, I'll wait a few days and then say "...let's turn winter into summer again"