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I have been keeping an eye on ALjazeera, they are totally glorifying the "resistance" and they seem to gloat about the fact that Israel will have such a hard time fighting them because they say "Hamas are the people", the "Idea of Hamas will always exist", again in a very gloating tone. Even though Aljazeera has a lot of clout it's definitely a toxic propaganda channel even by Arab standards.

First reports of small groups of Israeli special forces having entered Gaza trying to locate hostages. Godspeed!

Seems legit, (not 100% sure). Though to be clear these are not the hostages kidnapped to Gaza.

Yes, Netanayu's days are politically numbered. A good reason for him to prolong this was as much as possible.

@Leo Gura From what I understand, civilians are not the target, but Israel will go in very aggressively and uncompromisingly. The civilian population will flee but after Israel reaches them cornered I have no I idea where those civilians will go and what will happen to them. All complicated by Hamas being constantly amongst the civilians. They will have no qualms about fighting in civilian clothes.

I am not saying you support it but you do justify it, like for everything bad and horrendous you feel the need to play it down and relativize it.

@Leo Gura What I don't get is you try to justify everything that is happening as "natural and circumstances". Will you do the same when every single person in Gaza is wiped out. Will you say: oh it's just development and circumstances so don't demonize the Israelis. ?

People are cherry-picking for expressing shock and sympathy for the beheading of babies and rape of young women?

@Leo Gura You're really cherry-picking with that video.

They just found 40 dead babies some beheaded...

The back-and-forth bombings with Lebanon are getting more intense. Now it's not much but everything indicates Israel will lash out at them too and even Syria.

The hostages are practically already dead, especially the women. It's better that they die along the rest of Gaza. Maybe death is the best solution here.

This is the beginning of something tremendous, it's going to get so much bigger. I honestly think the Palestinian people will get genocided. The Jewish people have a strange twisted fate. They're being forced into it. The whole world will change after this war.

This and being a stage red savage

Overconfidence and a general atmosphere of lack of deterrence due to the current Israeli government being filled with incompetent, divisive and extremist politicians. Arabs could sense the vibe of deteriorating order in their bones.

The weather is nice, also the beaches

@Leo Gura People will always find ways to demonize

You would think so. If you're Jewish people just want you dead. Like if Ukraine were to get overrun by the Russians in all their barbarity Ukraine would be "fine(ish)". But if Israel is overrun, that's another Holocaust right there. The Middle East is more volatile than 1930'e Europe. It's a "few million of us against a billion of them".

Israel's security trumps Palestinian loss of land. Palestinians lose land or Israel loses life. Thats the calculation. Palestinians can still farm much of the land and live on it but Israel has security control over it.

@Leo Gura I get your point about land grabbing but still Israel's shape is uniquely extremely thin, it needs some of that geographical depth to defend itself from attacks (like we are seeing today). The messianic drive to settle the West Bank is the (unconscious) understanding and addressing of this survival risk.

Israel will definitely lose much of its sympathy in the coming days as it will lash out with a heavy hand. But Israel has other things to worry about than sympathy.

@Scholar Yes Israel is being kept massively in check by the US, people seem to overlook this

Sympathy does not mean that much when you're defending your land and family from savages. Also in this situation, Israel is uniquely positioned to strike out massively due to broad international sympathy much more than during "regular fights". The thing with sympathy is that you must be weak to get it and Israel can't allow that.

It goes both ways Also Israel is only 8 miles wide and its most narrow point

@Danioover9000 Absolutely!