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@Danioover9000 I already explained the sneaky game being played in the last post. Now you're just being willfully ignorant. Anybody can do whatever they want if they don't care about upholding standards. Like seriously guys show some capacity for intelligence and multi-layered thinking. A sign of a stupid person is when they have one pre-made narrative and squeeze every bit of information through that frame. I found a cool video to get the look and feel of Gaza before the war. Surprisingly normal, A bit rough but not without its charm. Not a single date palm would have as much as a scratch on its bark if Hamas never did their attack. They are also with the power to end it all and bring relief to their population. Gaza's biggest issue was unemployment and Israel was ready to help them with that by negotiating many 10,000’s of permits for jobs with a very decent pay and where they would have been treated with friendship and respect. But Hamas used this permit negotiation as a ploy to lull the Israelis.

This is not what's happening. If you would really care to know the truth you would not be engaged in playing such sneaky agenda-driven games. Even if some false individual claims arose and were later proven false this does not diminish the absolute animalistic savagery and sadistic barbarity of the attack. The truth is already so starkly horrific enough you're not serving the truth by playing this game of finding some false claims and running with it like Forest Gump. You're only serving your narrative by mushing every bit of information through your own specific frame. Believe me Israelis, even children know what the truth of 7/10 is.

For anyone wondering the reporting was for atrocity denial. It’s a dirty and highly dishonest agenda-driven game. But also unfortunately nothing surprising understanding the mentality of these people. If you would really care about truth and “sourcing” you’d watch the public videos and photos or at least inform yourself of the existing material including footage that is so traumatizing it’s only shown to officials and journalists. You can read their notes. But really the public stuff is already bad enough. It's also totally in your right to not do any of those things but then just shut up, you have no right to do your downplaying, revisionism and denial.

@Nivsch I have reported @Raze Don't engage him. He knows what he is doing. We have standards.

Hamas has lost this round and are trying to gain concessions from Israel more than they deserve. Israel stands fast. will not play 'games'. Real losers are the Gaza people. Destruction now or a miserable future under Hamas government. Pity'. By immreiter, comment under Times of Israel article

Palestinian suffering, especially children, should be the more reason why Hamas should put down its arms and surrender. But they don't care! The suffering of their people is just another weapon in their arsenal. On the 6th Oct all was fine with their people. Yes it was! I have never seen a refugee home with a marble stairway before. 🎗️💙🇮🇱💙🎗️ By lella.cachia, comment under Times of Israel article

Last night I wrote some heartful and thought-out peace and wisdom-oriented pieces on my phone to maybe share on this thread but seeing how it's further devolving into absolute toxicity I'd rather keep it for myself and not dishonor it by posting it here. This is why I get accused of bias and for good reason. I'd rather be biased and express my admiration and defend Israel by standing up against the lies than dignify the uber-hypocrite, brainless and toxic menace that represents the other side.

I made some edits to my previous post. Definitely worth a reread: I would add there is a literal-without-the-hyperbolic-bullshit genocide going on in Darfur (again). But nobody cares because it's committed by Arabs against an African people. (I would like to see South Africa file a court complaint for their "brothers".) The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a conflict deluxe for journalists because they can get easy access and be relatively safe. You cannot say the same about the Sudan for example. So this and the fact there are Jews involved makes it a profitable hot topic for the media. And this time Jews don't stand for Christ-killers, Communism or Capitalism but are the very face of the absolute evils of white colonialism, Western imperialism and nationism (because god forbid people are patriotic and look out for each other and their country). Go Figure the anti-Semitic and anti-historical ignorance. This major media overrepresentation for views and money overshadows the fact that of all the oppressed people in the world, Palestinians are the least so. Muslims and Arabs are in Conflict from the Western Sahara and all across to Pakistan and even the Philippines had a terrorist insurgency as of late. So don't act like Palestinians are totally innocent and have zero responsibility. Much of what you call occupation consists of necessary security measures. Without "occupation" Hamas would take over and rule a real country and instigate more savagery and war, that's also why it's important that Israel finishes the job and removes Hamas from power. (I still believe in two states but for that bona fide security guarantees are absolutely necessary.) It's also kind of a cruel joke to the Gazans if they have to live through the hell of this war but Hamas will remain in power. It will be then a matter of time till the next massive war.

@Nivsch For those who are decent, open and have a sense of truth our posts hit like bricks of solid insight. (Not talking about the people hellbound on their narrow narrative and crusade of willful ignorance, demonization and self-defeatism.)

It's only that El Salvador is such a small country with very little influence but otherwise, Bukele is one of the most competent and serious statesman and leader of the 21st century. This is how you lift a country up and give your nation pride and confidence in a better future. A truly inspirational person, he is of Palestinian descent btw, if only Palestinians had a leader like him.

@Nivsch Respect how you consistently hit the nail on its head and remain so principled and gentle. Here is a video of another gentle liberal Israeli that makes some good points: I would add there is a literal-without-the-hyperbolic-bullshit genocide going on in Darfur (again). But nobody cares because it's committed by Arabs against an African people. (I would like to see South Africa file a court complaint for their "brothers".) The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a conflict deluxe for journalists because they can get easy access and be relatively safe. You cannot say the same about the Sudan for example. So this and the fact there are Jews involved makes it a profitable hot topic for the media. And this time Jews don't stand for Christ-killers, Communism or Capitalism but are the very face of the absolute evils of white colonialism, Western imperialism and nationism (because god forbid people are patriotic and look out for each other and their country). Go Figure the anti-Semitic and anti-historical ignorance. This major media overrepresentation for views and money overshadows the fact that of all the oppressed people in the world, Palestinians are the least so. Muslims and Arabs are in Conflict from the Western Sahara and all across to Pakistan and even the Philippines had a terrorist insurgency as of late. So don't act like Palestinians are totally innocent and have zero responsibility. Much of what you call occupation consists of necessary security measures. Without "occupation" Hamas would take over and rule a real country and instigate more savagery and war, that's also why it's important that Israel finishes the job and removes Hamas from power. (I still believe in two states but for that bona fide guarantees are absolutely necessary.) It's also kind of a cruel joke to the Gazans if they have to live through the hell of this war but Hamas will remain in power. It will be then a matter of time till the next massive war.

@Leo Gura What's the main thing that makes you attractive to women? It sounds to me like you don't have much charm and charisma in life. Like do you have standard goofy American energy or do you have some serious authentic masculine vibes?

I don't care about that. Do whatever makes you happy. But girls also get their heart broken by player behavior. I am too soft of a bastard to be so cold about that. every girl I date I give a fair chance to become my girlfriend.

Many people start out doing game because they just want to get a good girlfriend. Being a player has its appeals but is also decadent and shallow at the end of the day. I am perfectly happy with a girlfriend. Being ethical and having powerful energy is by no means mutually exclusive. But yes I was under the impression that people who are truly spiritual express that in their heightened authenticity, cool and attractive vibe. But this is not as universal as I thought. @mmKay Beauty is cosmic poetry, passion and godliness. Beauty in life is a core principle of mine.

@Leo Gura oke weird that your many deep trips did not result in a powerful aura.

Don't you have some hardcore spiritual energy that women sense and fall for, Rasputin style? Also, most guys want to end up with a high-quality girlfriend even a wife. Being a player is rarely the goal.

The deepest beauty comes from (authentic, strong and cool) energy. Having physical features that are popularly considered attractive is definitely nice but that alone will get you only so far.

For me, it seems the other way around: with looks, you can compensate because who doesn't like beauty? But still, energy is absolutely fundamental. And most guys can work on it. Also with "good" energy, I also seem physically beautiful in a deep way. with bad energy, I am nothing special. The energy/vibe is what gives the physical features depth and meaning. The whole journey is to find your authentic energy. To have strong dark masculine energy but also cool, class and even some feminity. Feminity is so important!

@Leo Gura Attraction comes 90% down to energy! Why are you making looks (for a man) sound so important? When my energy is right I attract the bulk of girls when it's off I do the opposite of attract. Attraction and repulsion is an energetic force, just like with a magnet. I was once in a club slightly high on LSD, my energy was fire. I was aware of how I was literally attracting people like a magnet, I saw it visually. It was actually very annoying and had to physically push some people away. But this is how attraction works, if I was needy or dark souled the opposite would have happened.

I am doing a AI photoshop project on medieval Europe, and all it does is generate black and brown people. So for now I have to leave out humans out of the whole thing and just go with buildings and such.

@Nivsch Absolutely right, It's more for myself. I know shit and enjoy writing about history and Israel, standing up for truth is also important but it's definitely a trap to get sucked into useless back-and-forths with what could be 17-year-olds on the internet. Also, I am spiritually regrounding myself, after 7/10 is was too angry and emotional, and even though I support and see the necessity of the total elimination of Hamas the peace dream should win out in the end.

I am not going to entertain your flimsy and speculative theories about Jewish culture and religion. It's also not that relevant, furthermore I never really grew up with Jewish culture. It was more of a mix of Russian culture and Western principles. Also, everything your mind touches gets mushed into your narrow narrative so why should I even bother? The Jews were mostly dirt-poor pioneers from Eastern Europe and refugees from the Middle East. The Middle Eastern Jews were kicked out by the Arabs and lived in refugee camps before being absorbed and fully integrated into Israeli society. European Jews only had a majority in the land for around 30 years. Israel is very much so a Middle Eastern country. Jews don't have some old country or "motherland" they can return to. Israel is the motherland and old country. There is no second Israel. That's why Israelis are so motivated and uncompromising in the defense of their land that they genuinely and deeply love. Back in the day, it was a relatively sparsely populated land under Ottoman and later British rule, it was never a "Palestinian" country, there was no centralized government or sovereignty over their land. The land itself was mostly owned by rich Lebanese (who sold it to Jews). The Palestinian national identity didn't exist. First came the Zionist pioneers and as a reaction the Palestinian national identity was developed. Do the Palestinians have the right to their land? absolutely, simply because they live there. But did they also start wars that made them lose out on more of the land: Absolutely. I know it's an Israeli cliche but if you dig into the ground anywhere in Israel you'll find Jewish artifacts, this is true. Jews are native to the land. As opposed to Palestinians, Jews actually held sovereignty in the land before being kicked out after the 'Great Jewish Revolt' into the Diaspora and coming back 2000 years later. But even all the historical knowledge aside (so you won't accuse me of using Putin tactics, though I am being 100% truthful). There are two truths side by side: The Palestinians have the right to the land and so do the Jews. For different but equally legitimate reasons. Even though during WW2 the main Palestinian leader was a Nazi sympathetic to Hitler, it's true that Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust or earlier persecution of Jews in Europe. But it is the force and poetry of history that has brought the Jews back to their ancient homeland. It's an universal Karma and I understand why the Palestinians feel wronged by that. But such is reality. The world is not all rainbow and sunshine, Jews know this starkly well. Cut your losses and make peace. Palestinians can take comfort in that Arabs still live in Israel and partake in the democratic system. Like-wise I think Jewish settlers can also take comfort in simply living on their biblical heartland even though it might fall under Palestinian sovereignty under any future peace deal.

Dont you find it lowkey racist? I do not want to sound rude but I did some research about it and it seems they glorify treating Jews better than Gentiles and do not see all equal before God. Also they glorify and support genocide against their enemies (Amalek seed). I read this from a Jewish author actually. I am just asking here, I do not claim to be an expert on the area. I know some people that dislike Jews because they say "they see us as lesser". I am sure even if Israel was gone as an entity Jews would be fine. Europe spoils them these days so they would fare well. Also they seem to be educated and tons of connections. I dont know why they chose the Middle East to settle in. That is basically looking for trouble. Settling in USA or some island would be far better for them. Ignorant and irrelevant. Definitely not, I can see when somebody has legitimate criticism or is just being mindlessly ugly, demonizing and obsessed. But yeah as I explained with the Owen Jones example you can only be effective in protecting the best interest of Palestinians if you come to the insight of... "Wait... Israelis are actually very respectable people with the legitimate and deep human right to live on their land and defend it from those that want to harm them as the potential for barbarity of their enemies is so great." "I am still against Israeli devilry but will speak out about in a way that respects both peoples and without demonization otherwise I am essentially forfeiting my claim that I am supportive of peace and justice."

As an objective observation of toxic stage green you speak truthfully here. But Anti-Semitism has not been on a religious basis for a very long time. Anti-semitism evolves with whatever the current hivemind of the time is. I am Jewish but I am not at all attached to the Jewish religion (though I have a healthy respect for it and definitely can see the beauty in it). But I am attached to Israel, because Israel stands for the survival of the Jewish people. And what do modern extreme left anti-semites love to hate and demonize? ... Exactly! He is exceptionally stupid but a great example of the self-defeatism inherent in the free-palestine hivemind: He praises and romanticizes the Houthis for standing up for the suffering people of Gaza. But what is the Houthi motto? Death to Jews, Death to Israel, etc. And what happens if you bring death to Jews? ...Palestinians in Gaza that suffer.

I never said anything about Stage Green being anti-Semitic. I currently live in a largely stage green environment in Europe so I know the nuances, the good, the bad and the ugly. Extreme toxic stage green can definitely be anti-Semitic. Also, the whole free-Palestine hivemind is heavily blue and red with suckered-in green people. I just cannot stress enough how mindless and self-defeating the whole movement is, c'mon isn't that obvious!? Furthermore, I know stage-green people that are sympathetic to Israel because they are thoughtful complicated people that don't mush the world into a narrow narrative. I would say that within Israeli society I am very stage green, general atmosphere of compassion and issues like gay rights and minority rights. But when dealing with outside enemies such as Hamas I am all stage blue underlined with Western democratic principles. I said I was for two states. It just seems to as the most realistic solution though it must be approached extremely carefully to not compromise on security. The Gaza pull-out was basically a two-state solution in miniature but it ended up backfiring for everyone involved. For sure, but it is complicated because the potential for barbarity from the Palestinians/Arabs is enormous so Israel has to take security measures against that. Also, the day-to-day live of Palestinians in peacetime time is objectively not that bad and in relative wealth and sovereignty.