Tim R

Beyond form and formlessness, what is there?

You're making a distinction between "feeling" and "not feeling"... To say that there's a "feeling" when you touch your leg as opposed to "no feeling" before or after you touched your leg is a dualistic state of awareness. Just saying. Same goes for saying "I'm enlightened since yesterday" as opposed to "I wasn't enlightened the day before". That's the point i was trying to make. A mystical experience is not the same as enlightened, at least relatively speaking. (I'm not trying to deny any of your experiences)

Attempting to trigger people you think is constructive? Alright...

But your "feeling" is a concept There's no feeling. There is no form, anywhere.

That's neither helpful for you or anybody else, nor is it in accordance with our modus operandi on this forum.

What you call "concepts, physical reality, etc." are nothing but concepts themselves and don't exist. Form doesn't exist because whatever form you think exists is just a formless concept projected on formlessness.

@AcaciaConfusa This has nothing whatsoever to do with enlightenment. Make sure to at least build a theoretical foundation of what we're talking about.

It's the exact opposite LOL Form is something you make up conceptually, all boundaries are illusionary, hence form doesn't actually exist.

@Johnny5 Thanks mate. I'll make sure to check out Jed McKenna, don't know him yet.

We say conventionally about something: "this is impossible!!" Now here's the joke: there can't be anything impossible, because it would be impossible!! Literally NOTHING is impossible... This just struck me... It might seem very obvious to some of you, but as you (should) know, nothing is ever obvious. The impossible can't be, because it would literally be impossible... That's so messed up, love it!

Don't worry mate, not very likely.. If you were at a point where this would actually be something plausible to happen, you wouldn't be afraid of it

@Johnny5 Could you paste a link or something where this is explained? I'm not sure whether I understand correctly or not.. .

I'd still be very careful with ultimative statements like "I'm enlightened, for real this time"... There's so much potential for delusion

Spot on. When I realized this yesterday, the ramifications were the mind-bending material which made me roam through the living room for a while...

Yes, one has to be careful not to turn this into a mere word game. But this goes for absolutely everything because all understanding is implicit.

Yes, it's a very tautological say to thing that the impossible is impossible. Read very carefully and take it literally: The great revelation is: nothing in the universe which is, is something impossible, otherwise it wouldn't be, right? Right. Which means: everything in the universe that is, is something possible, otherwise it would also not be, right? Right. So, this means that the impossible doesn't exist, because it can't exist. By definition. It's impossible, how could it then exist. It couldn't. That's the revelation. Nothing in the universe could ever be something impossible. If you don't get it at this point, read it over and over and over till it clicks. I won't make another comment to explain.

Did you get there naturally or have you used 5-MeO?

What makes you so certain that it is permanent enlightenment (Nirvana?...) and not "merely" an awakening which might slowly fade?

I thought about wether this is a strange loop or not... I think it's safe to say that it isn't. To say that the impossible can't exist and the only thing that exists is the possible is nothing particularly loopy. It would get loopy if you'd confuse the idea of "everything is possible" with "everything is possible including the impossible". But since the impossible doesn't exist it doesn't loop back to the realm of "the possible" You see?

No, you haven't understood. It is way simpler than that. To ask me to draw a triangle which is not a triangle (can you see how the question itself is meaningless?) 1. makes no sense whatsoever because it's contradicting itself 2. doesn't disprove my point My point is, that nothing is impossible. Why? Because the definition of "something impossible" is: that it can't exist (just like the triangle that you asked me to draw) Such a triangle obviously doesn't exist. because it can't exist. Anything which would be impossible could therefore not exist, ever. Which is the exact same thing as saying: nothing is impossible. Everything (and I literally mean everything) is possible, otherwise it wouldn't be. Which is also the exact same thing as saying: everything is possible.

I'd like to get into Yoga. Now, since yoga has become so damn popular in the West, there's a sh*tload of self-proclaimed yoga teachers out there who don't know anything about what true Yoga is actually good for, they see it as.. you know, bend yourself into the shape of a pretzel and relax your mind, for them it's just supposed to be healthy or something along those lines. My question for you: Who are some legitimate Yoga teachers I can find online, preferably on YouTube? Thank you in advance!

@gswva Nope, you got it slightly mixed up Nothingness is the ONLY thing that exists, it's the only possible thing. Non-existence can't exist (by definition). Consciousness exists as the only thing that exists, because it IS everything. Don't just build a theoretical philosophy out of these kind of statements (or out of anything that you hear from Leo or anyone else) it's not in the least bit useful.

Honestly I don't understand why you guys are so eager to criticize this dude... he's making some comments on different topics from his stage of development, so what? There's a shitload of guys like him out there, non of you care about them, and for a good reason... It's not a very sophisticated thing to pull up some famous person who happens to be at Stage Blue and ridicule and critisize him for his values. Why do you bring him up so often, and furthermore, why in this discussion thread which is supposed to deal with meditation, enlightenment work and spirituality?

This is so glaringly obvious and simple... Guess Leo was right after all about infinity oh boy

@Spaceofawareness Yes. How could it? It would literally be impossible. You see, there CAN'T BE something impossible in the first place, because that would make it something possible. And therefore everything that is, is the Possible with a capital P