Tim R

Quran, Surah 6:101 - 103 He (Allah) is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have a son when He has had no mate? And He has created everything and He has full knowledge of all things. This is Allah: your Lord, there is no God but He, the Creator of everything; so, worship Him. He is Guardian over everything. No vision can comprehend Him, and He comprehends all visions, and He is Absolutely Subtle, All-Aware.

Bible, Exodus 3:13 - 14 Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?" God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

Meaningless question. That's like asking "what was before time?" Or "where is space?"

@hyruga We discussed the topic of reincarnation just a couple of days ago, here's the thread

This is so cool It's like some sort of a hybrid between strange loop and paradox.

@Nate0068 That's nothing but throwing around a bunch of words and theories. Clearly none of these ideas mean anything to you, or you wouldn't ask. Don't adopt any of it as your philosophy. Why not? Because none of it stems from your own direct experience. None of it has been verified or falsified by yourself. If I (or anyone else) were to tell you "yes, you're onto something" or "no, what you're saying is wrong", then you would simply adopt it as your theory about reality, having missed the point entirely.

The real question is: will Elliot ever get out of this "hole"? I mean, the stuff he says isn't something anybody would say without being pretty damn committed to it, right? Could he ever get to stage green or at least somewhere close? Edit: sorry, that's a stupid question. I can't see any way of him getting to green unless he takes psychedelics which deconstruct his whole reality for a couple of minutes, maybe that will get him thinking.

I'm sure Joe would simply jizz his pants if this came true

We need Jordan Peterson to become a hippie, I don't see any other way out. Seriously though, we need a smart and eloquent green role model who optimally already has a pretty decent reach. At least to balance the backlash.

Why did he suddenly regress into this blue nonsense? And in general, why and how do people fall down the spiral?

Is totalitarianism in the west a possibility? I actually think it's foolish to assume that it isn't, the question is only; how likely is it? And what are the possible influences/reasons on the development of such high-end authoritarian structures?

But the few who rule by virtue of the ignorance of the masses don't want to set up a robust education system, do they? Since the masses are ignorant they will elect an ignorant leader, who in turn won't set up a good education system - isn't this a vicious circle? Btw is there any possibility to avoid a collective ego backlash? Or can it only be reduced in severity?

It will and it already is. The internet is way to vast and powerful for us humans and if a person doesn't know how to think straight, the internet and media are prone to do more intellectual harm than good ime. However the internet is the only thing that will get us to yellow. The internet is the most yellow thing you could ever come up with. Relativism is on the rise and it's gonna shake our culture right to the core. Not sure how we're gonna deal with tho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting I'd like to bring some attention to the problem of gaslighting and the deconstruction of reality. I think there are some similarities between the two, but the main difference is obviously the intention behind it: gaslighting is purely malicious, manipulative and has no interest in getting any closer to truth. However: the structure can be similar and the effects can be similar too. Therefore, the deconstruction of reality (which has been the enterprise of Actualized.org for quite some time now) can easily be regarded by some individuals as something rather detrimental and resembling the nature of gaslighting (which is also the reason I think for the numerous accusations of Leo leading a cult, since gaslighting is a very, very common method used by cults). Those individuals can be left with mostly nothing but the damaging effects of deconstructing their, assumptions, memories, perceptions, beliefs, and overall sense of reality. Which itself can start a whole cascade of psychological and emotional problems, ranging in severity. I know, Leo made it clear many times that this work is literally a threat to your life (not your physical life) and that there are dangerous aspects to it, but especially on this forum I sometimes get the impression, that people don't quite understand that there are real threats to this and that not everybody will break through to truth. Some people might simply get stuck in a semi-deconstructed reality full of uncertainties and destructive doubts. PS: this is not an accusation; I don't think that the intents of Actualized.org are malicious in any way.

This is the most toxic and cruel stage red shit I've ever come across, wtf... Violence overload and sexual abuse beyond comprehension. This is insane, absolutely and completely. You really have to be Jesus to love the people who did this.

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@Leo Gura How can emptiness and infinite/god consciousness not be identical?

@Bodhitree That's from a story from Terence McKenna, it was about DMT

Do you know of any instances of spiritual masters taking (strong) psychedelics like 5-MeO or DPT or something similar? I've just been reading Leo's old solo retreat notes and he mentioned that a Zen Master for example wouldn't care to take DMT to integrate the entities into his world view because a) he thinks his enlightenment is enough and b) because it is against one of the 5 precepts (although it actually isn't btw)

I just found this research paper https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2020.601316/full This study found that certain chemical compounds in green tea (they used "Xinyang Maojian"), cacao and grapes (muscadine grape) have inhibitory qualities on an enzyme (main protease, MPro), which the virus needs to replicate. The extent to which consumption of this food can actually contribute to a protective effect against COVID cannot be derived from this study tho, since it was in-vitro.

I think the confusion was about whether you @Nahm think that Rupert is spot on correct or whether you agree that he's biased etc.

The ocean is not still. "Stillness" is just another idea. The ocean isn't moving, "movement" is also just an idea.

@Ibgdrgnxxv But you're not pointing out anything, you just claim that people on this forum deliberately lie and deceive.

You can't get along and have a sense of connection if certain criteria aren't fulfilled though That's what I meant by saying "it's not a checklist sort of thing" What do you think it is then?

@DefinitelyNotARobot Well keep looking then❤