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@Opo Not necessarily. people get indoctrinated with Orange culture. Yes, Orange itself is the integration of the previous stages, so in that sense you're right. But it's not them who have integrated the previous stages. True, they don't have to go back, but it wold probably good to take a look under their epistemological and metaphysical hood. That's what I thought at first. So I did an experiment to test this hypothesis: I stood a few feet away so that people wouldn't assume that I had anything to do with him. Still tho, same result.

Yes, perfectly true. @Eternal Unity Maybe you remember a few weeks ago there was a thread about rape and whether you'd interfere or not. And some people in there thought they could rationalize rape by using non-duality. I replied "there's no reason to help, but equally there's no reason not to help". So what to choose? Why not choose Love over selfishness? And yes, this "Love" can still be expressed for selfish reasons (spiritual ego, right?). Which is why Jesus gave the trick/fake command "thou shalt love the lord thy god with all thy heart and with all thy mind".

@Eternal Unity You mean so that I don't have to help that person?

If you like tea and meditation, go buy some good Sencha. It's the best, god I'm in love with it. Maybe even a bit addictedgood stuff tho It's a great alternative to coffee, because the caffeine doesn't hit you as hard. It doesn't have this peak effect after which you feel kinda drained. which is why you can use it for meditation, it contains L-Theanine which in combination with the caffeine perfectly harmonizes alertness with calmness. Any tea drinkers out there who can recommend other tea sorts? Or maybe green tea varieties which are good for meditation? Today I tried a cup of "Gyokuro" for the first time, which was also really nice

No, caffeine can't escape me.

See which values resonate with you most. And don't forget, you're never in only one particular stage. Check out the Spiral Dynamics Mega Threads: Purple Red Blue Orange Green Yellow Turquoise Also be aware of the fact that most people tend on average to locate themselves 2 stages higher than they actually are. So if you think you're at Yellow, chances are that you're actually at Orange and overestimating yourself. No stage is better than any other stage. They are all necessary and good just as they are.

oh guess I didn't get that haha @Mason Riggle thank you can only say the same about you yeah "most" is accurate, I still talk about a lot of things I don't really understand. Gotta give that up, just a silly game

yup, it seems to be something. but "it" isn't.

@Mason Riggle There's a lot of nobodies on this forum who say I'm not real? do you exist?

amiriteoramirite?

@Preety_India Any specific ones? or just tea from that region? why do you like it?

Don't you dare to open another solipsism thread…?

@BipolarGrowth Makes a lot of sense, thank you! @NahmThird time watching that video, here wo go! seriously tho I will have to return to that video many times coming, always with new context of understanding That adds to my understanding.. or maybe it took away from "my understanding". Thank you!

Green focuses on people & community and still lacks in holism, it still excludes (and condemns) many perspectives. Turquoise is extremely holistic and doesn't exclude/condemn any world view. Even more than Yellow. SD basically describes the development of degrees of holism. The further up the stages, the more holistic your values become.

not necessarily, the iron may contain very reactive ions which "want" to become Fe2O3 or something. You got me thinking tho. In a sense, everything is sort of..sluggish and doesn't want to change. on the other hand, there is no ego in anything, not even in humans. @Leo Gura I have a question on that: I remember Nahm posting somewhere "the biggest misconception is that ego is a thought". So.. "ego" doesn't exist, not even as a thought, right? it's a total illusion, there's nothing at all to which you could point and say "there is the ego". So even to say that is already saying too much, yes?

"Nothing is the same, everything is changed" She was born in 1869 and lived to be 112. This is crazy... I think we could learn a great deal from old people. Too bad that in western society, we see them mostly as a burden. They truly know about impermanence. I think age gives you some kind of wisdom which you can only get through age and no other technique would work. What do you think?

hmm idk man. I think whenever an organism tries to survive, there's ego. Albeit a very simple one.

What are we talking about exactly? Is the question whether plants perceive? Or is this thread becoming one of those "what is consciousness" discussions? Of course "there's no one home" also applies to plants, like with BipolarGrowth's analogy of the dream mother. There's no one home. Likewise with you, nobody home... Consciousness is, but nobody who is conscious.

@Eternal Unity What do you mean?

Of course plants are conscious. They have some very elaborate systems of perception, like for example graviception or photoception. Also, they are aware of sounds and even music. Plants communicate all kinds of things via chemicals through the air, think of the tobacco plant: there's a species of caterpillar who loves eating the leaves of young tobacco plants, and if he starts chewing on a plant, it will send out a bunch of chemicals that are called "phytohormones" (phyto=plant) to warn the other plants nearby and they receive this signal and as a result will produce chemicals which make the leaves bitter and inedible for the caterpillar. Plants are also aware of different kinds of stress, like when there isn't enough water around or when the sun is burning too hot and they have the most incredible systems of coping with these situations. And god only knows what is going on in the forest underneath the soil where the trees form communication and nutrient exchange networks of enormous sizes with different species of funghi (which aren't plants btw) and other trees. When I started to learn about plant physiology in university I was shocked to discover how sophisticated they actually are... plants aren't dumb or unconscious at all. Only because they don't scream or run away doesn't mean they aren't conscious.

Idk about you guys but he looks pretty happy to me humping the dude's hand. Watch a dog nut in a cup? Check✅ what am I doing with my life...

Inside the mind of a chess Grand Master...crazy

@Flowerfaeiry Preaching to the choir.. We're all sitting in the same boat. You are most definitely not the only one. But imagine what it would be like if you would be a "normie"? What would you want then? Life wouldn't necessarily be easier, you'd just have different problems and struggles. You would worry about mundane things, you'd be stressed out by marginal problems, you wouldn't know why people behave the way the do, you wouldn't see life as a game, etc.. Don't forget to go easy on yourself, people forget to do that all the time. There's no hurry in this game

We love you too❤?

I'm curious about the current situations in different places all over the world. How severe is it? What measures have been taken? What is the general public opinion about your governments way of dealing with the pandemic? How does this influence the national or local politics?