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I actually can't really say. It is quite a problematic psychedelic and has strong negative connotations to it. It is the only psychedelic I have heard of which people say is way stronger than dmt or 5-meo-dmt. But I think it is best not to say, since the last time I mentioned it Leo ended up shutting down the post.

@thesio Haha same time, same thought! I like how you think, we are on a similar frequency.

@Leo Gura What was the method you used to find these relatively unknown psychedelics? Looking at novel research papers? Youtube videos? Erowid? Or how else do you find something and decide it is worth trying next and potentially will be greater than previous drugs you have tried? I'm asking because I haven't previously seen people on the internet claim to have found something more powerful than 5-meo.

@Krzysztof Yeah the problem is that we would still end up with so many possible options. I think a lot of the psychedelics on that list will be possible candidates.

@Leo Gura That's awesome, is this what you use mostly now? Has this mostly replaced your 5-meo use? Or how does it fit in?

@thesio lol yeah pretty sure you would be able to absorb 5-meo that way... only one way to find out for sure though

@Peo Hmm well I can actually think of a psychedelic which is not included on that list, I can only think of one though. I'm not saying Leo created a new drug but he may have found out about one which is relatively unknown, like the one I'm thinking of...

@Forestluv Really? When? And what was it? I seem to only recall DPT and salvia being recent drugs Leo has talked about but neither of those are the one discussed in that thread based off of the criteria given.

Yeah but if this is the case, then why wouldn't Leo just say that? Like just say "hey the reason I'm not telling you is because X". It seems a bit weird to purposefully hint at it in videos and on the forum seemingly in order to get us excited about it but with intention of holding it back. I don't really buy the whole "you won't appreciate it" reason, it just seems like a business strategy to get more views and followers.

@Leo Gura Are all of the psychedelics which you have not revealed within this wikipedia list? Or are any of them unknown enough to not be on this list?

@Leo Gura I'll give you a great rim job if you tell me now You will cum like you never have before when I place the 5-meo on the tip of my tongue and stick it deep inside you.

Ok, I kind of get it. But I would prefer balls deep, I feel like this many months of foreplay is getting me so close to nutting already. Would be a shame if I blow my load before you even get the tip in.

That's cool. But why hint at them without naming them? Couldn't you just drop the names? I don't see why not other than from a business point of view.

@acidgoofy Haha I know it does look like that. I actually sent this post to my friend who agrees and then he created his own account to respond but I didn't actually ask him to do so. Anyway, what do you think of the post?

This is mostly the same as a previous post I made, however I have removed the writing which presumably gave reason to lock the post. I see no valid reason to lock this post, so hopefully we can have some discussion this time and perhaps Leo can answer in a reasonable fashion. Leo has mentioned in videos and comments on here that he had discovered a relatively unknown psychedelic which is more powerful than even 5-MeO-DMT. There seems to have not been much discussion of this lately based off of a few quick searches in the forum but previously we had people very curious to find out as you can see in this thread here: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/40418-lets-play-the-psychedelic-guessing-game-leos-new-psychedelic/#comment-506835 If this psychedelic is so great and powerful then I believe he surely has an ethical obligation to share it with people who are seeking awakening, truth, and generally trying to better themselves or their understanding of the world. It seems wrong to keep this from his followers who care passionately about this and it certainly seems wrong to have purposefully told us about it with the intention of not actually revealing it for a while. If he knew he wasn't going to reveal it for a while then he shouldn't have said anything at all unless he was trying to manipulate our curiosity. I present you with a few possibilities for why Leo won't tell us what this great psychedelic is: 1. Leo was lying about finding a new psychedelic and so he has nothing to tell us, hence his silence. He was lying in order to manipulate his followers into long term following for hope of the reveal which will never come. If this is the case, it seems unethical. 2. Leo was not lying about the discovery but is not telling us because he wants to drag it out in order to keep us hooked on following him. I think this is unlikely because it seems he has not mentioned it in a while, although perhaps I have missed this. This case seems unethical. 3. He is planning on telling us but is holding back because it is a topic lower on his list of videos to release. In this case he is holding back for the purpose of gaining viewers and excitement on the initial reveal which will help him business wise. Even if it is low on his priority list he could still easily have responded to the many people speculating and questioning him on it and have potentially helped them out by doing so, instead he gave vague responses and hints which felt rather manipulative. This case seems unethical. 4. He believes it to be a very dangerous psychedelic and so he is hesitant on telling people about it in case of causing harm, or perhaps it is an unethically sourced drug. In this case he should not have told people that he had some special new thing to tell people but that we all must wait for the great day that he finally tells us. He shouldn't have said anything at all. Or perhaps he should have released a statement about the danger of it in order to help people that still find it by themselves. This case seems unethical. What do you guys think? Am I missing anything? Can anyone think of a legitimate ethically sound reason to only hint at a new drug and yet not tell us what it is? Leo, can you please answer why you have hinted and yet are still holding back from the reveal?