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@Leo Gura lol you and everyone else are basically saying “it’s real because that’s the truth” without even clarifying you’ve experienced it and that’s just spreading a belief and you implied (not directly said) to the other guy that yes it’s insane to do it for no reason but if you’re just going off someone’s word then you’re just sending people crazy yourself telling them to do something unrealistic like BECOME GOD and saying you’re god is just a random claim and if that was the case you could do godly things like magically turn everyone enlightened and don’t try to say that’s not what you meant god means god

@Hello from Russia Well like he said 5meo will give you a glimpse none of that will but he just now told me I’ll never reach enlightenment taking psychedelics and meditating read right above

@Leo Gura “You will never achieve enlightenment that way” you literally say over and over again a psychedelic “5meo dmt” will take you further than humanly possible stop contradicting yourself

@Leo Gura And why is it foolish to do the things towards enlightenment without thinking about it since you can’t think your way there anyway? You said 5meo will send you straight to it so if I was meditating and doing psychedelics it would just kind of happen wouldn’t it? You’re not making any sense and you’re confusing the hell out of people.

@Leo Gura I have no reason to believe it other than someone’s words to seek it hard and like you said trust no one so why should I do it seriously? And unless you’ve experienced it (which you didn’t give me a solid answer) you’re basically believing in Santa and if you have well you should’ve said it to give me assurance from someone else like I’ve been talking about this entire thread.

@Leo Gura So you’ve experienced it? That’s the only way you can know that it’s there and I asked you that more than once If not its foolish to take something on blind faith so seriously like trying to find the Flying Spaghetti Monster in your house so you’re saying you’ve experienced it? That’s literally all you had to say

@Leo Gura Ik you discuss a lot of things but if I do that and live out my life goals there shouldn’t really be a reason to idealize them too much but still I can see how the information you give out is valuable it motivates me the same way the books you read probably motivated you

@Leo Gura I’m just going to stick with the fact that psychedelics and meditation are scientifically proven to make me happier And keep doing it and if enlightenment is real it will come to me since they say not to seek it anyway it’s almost like a religion to believe it before experience

Anyways thank you Leo for teaching meditation on YouTube and how to make girls squirt it helped my anxiety a lot all I ask is that you not leave people confused and encourage them ik you say it isn’t for everyone but please keep in mind everyone is different and need different advice some need it hard some need it positive and encouraging and I apologize for starting a circle jerk

@r0ckyreed I was joking around I edited it goodnight

Im done after this basically my point is not to leave people in the dark and tell them to do it their self always give them direction and assurance

That’s what a leader does not tell the blind to figure it out their self ik you have to do it yourself in the end the same way the athlete does but the coach should be able to push you to do it!

If the Leo or anyone on here wants others to awaken as well you need to be sure of what you’re doing is legit and my point is when you don’t assure people it discourages them and makes it sound like you’re not trustworthy to say “you don’t know” maybe you are legit maybe you aren’t but if you are you should assure people since it is possible!

@r0ckyreed Well that’s my point lol

@r0ckyreed what I mean is that if it’s part of your experience you’re going to be just as sure as an athlete would be of there performance that you would just give simple assurance not play borderline mind games

If someone is great at something They’re going to assure you it’s possible not just say “you don’t know if it’s possible find out yourself” that sounds more like playing games

@r0ckyreed If you and everyone on here is pursuing enlightenment and you have made progress it kind of takes away from your credibility when you say “you don’t know that we’re telling the truth” if you were a pro athlete you wouldn’t say “you don’t know if it’s possible to be this good” you’d simply assure me

I’ve become very skeptical of everything to the point I’m pessimistic ik I should just see for myself if something is true but it feels like I’m losing motivation any advice?

@Leo Gura And I guess this can be applied to regular truths as well

@Leo Gura I see and another guy put it well he said to question your own skepticism and that it’s not crazy to open up to new ideas. I also need at least some concrete assurance like the monks getting their brain scanned. From what you’ve said in some videos it sounds like you’ve had glimpses in your own experience haha so how confident are you that truth is something to be discovered and not some crazy idea?

@Intraplanetary Yeah he explained well without confusion I’m glad it’s helping other people

The only “concrete” evidence ik of is monks being brain scanned I guess that’s enough and sort of what I’m looking for. I’m also wanting to hear other peoples experiences if they notice any strong differences “see for yourself” isn’t assuring lol

@Forestluv interesting so the “goal” here is to get the astonishment that kids have from being aware of what’s below all of the thought stories? I’ve heard all of this before but I feel refreshed

And thank you everyone taking the time so far I feel like a lot of people struggle with this so

@Byun Sean You put it excellent thank you