Drake72

You assume that you’re above all the masters and people on this forum but how do you know for sure they’re not at the same or even higher consciousness than you? Maybe they do know what you’re talking about I mean don’t you think at least someone in the world that has done more work than you has tried 5meo? You may have fallen into the power traps you spoke of a long time ago how can you know you’re above every other enlightened person just based off what they say you have no idea what their experience or non experience or whatever you want to call it is. It is very possible that it could’ve just been a powerful experience and maybe you’re not even at enlightenment yet there was a master that said you can always go further how do you know you’re not just still on the path and that they have been through what you have even earlier in their enlightenment? Not only do you shut down the possibility that you’re wrong but you shut down anyone that says they’ve had an experience like you know and they don’t even though you don’t know I mean come on.

@ArchangelG Yeah it’s sad it makes people not want to think or hear of all of the useful information he used to give out it was so motivating now it’s all abuse the people a part of it are suffering and the ones who aren’t see it all as a joke

And Leo taught this behavior by bullying others into his ideas it’s sad that a lot of you people on here probably do this to people in your life basically psychologically abusing them when they disagree on anything Leo has probably caused a lot of damage by doing this and turning the abused into abusers

So many people on this forum says the exact same things Leo says when someone has a contradicting opinion. It’s literally a part of cult psychology to gas light anybody that has a different opinion and tell them their own reality is false you all simply believe that a state you can get into through psychedelics or meditation is the absolute truth of reality and if anyone tries to disagree you don’t even consider it you just shut them down.

But like I said there’s no point to meditate or do psychedelics for anything other than happiness Or cool states of mind otherwise you’re just taking faith on something a random person told you unless you experience enlightenment all the time to be real to you it’s sad that people turn to gaslighting instead of keeping on the debate that’s why so many others think he’s a cult leader which may be true since that’s where you learned the behavior

@Hello from Russia Defense mechanism huh? So you’re not defending your point of view by going against my points? Lol you can go in circles all day but do you and everyone else here really experience yourselves as not human or are you telling yourself that?

@Carl-Richard Nah you’re just assuming I’m projecting the reason I said that is because he didn’t use his own words to describe it it sounded exactly like what other people say just like you did and I am trusting myself by not agreeing with what’s not in my experience it’s ironic you said assumed that though

But like I said there’s no point to meditate or do psychedelics for anything other than happiness Or cool states of mind otherwise you’re just taking faith on something a random person told you unless you experience enlightenment all the time to be real to you

@Hello from Russia You’re just regurgitating questions that you’ve heard before that make no sense

@Hello from Russia Because you’re trying to argue that I’m not a person but I am otherwise I wouldn’t be able to type this

@Hello from Russia It’s not a cool definition it is the definition and if I were god I wouldn’t be limited to this body but I am this body until maybe I die and so you are also a person if not then prove it

@Dodo I agree earlier I said why not just meditate and not worry about enlightenment then all hell broke loose lol

@Hello from Russia God is the creator of everything that is the definition when you communicate with people you use the right words and I think it’d be nonsense for people to trust a human so much saying “I am god” which would be easy to prove even more if they’re not saying what they mean

Ik I’m going on and on but I’m trying to make points that it’s really senseless to commit to something rather than do it casually if you’re not sure if it’s there or if it’s just temporary and he is kind of pressuring it on this forum you can’t deny that

@toocrazytobecrazy Well if you didn’t agree then you basically mean you didn’t believe? If he’s deluded or maybe lying why should all these people trust him so much to tell them to commit so much to something?

@Adamq8 Fair enough if you’ve experienced what he’s talking about but that goes back to my point of why not just meditate and do psychedelic casually if it’s only temporary? He shut me down for that you can say I’m mentally masturbating but I’m trying to make points he said “I am god” so he’s trying to say permanent enlightenment is possible and telling people to put a lot of time into it which I’m arguing against if you can’t be sure of it like someone said earlier it was be insane to do pointlessly

@toocrazytobecrazy that’s the definition of god if he’s saying something else then he’s not being clear that’s basically playing games

@Adamq8 And you asked what I’m talking about I’m questioning if you can trust this that’s pretty obvious

@toocrazytobecrazy He said “I am god” go back and read it and if he does later find out he was wrong then that proves my whole point the blind shouldn’t lead the blind

@Adamq8 So you’ve experience it as not just some state and that’s your reality? And no it’s not mental masturbation I’m making sure people aren’t following something pointless and that they can trust what they’re doing because the leader here isn’t being very clear and now he’s saying he’s god which means what it means and that’s kind of hard to believe if that was the case we all could just get zapped to enlightenment that’s what god could do and that’s what he said he is

@toocrazytobecrazy And if he meant something else well not saying what you mean is basically playing games or not making any sense

@toocrazytobecrazy If that’s genuine then it could easily be proved I mean look up the definition of god

@toocrazytobecrazy That’s what I’m saying though he said “I am god”

@toocrazytobecrazy it’s okay to disagree man you don’t have to talk in circles to not upset them if he’s not making any sense then he probably is playing games and even if you trust him why would you want someone leaving you confused? If he’s what he claims he should have no trouble letting you know what you need to

@Hello from Russia So you know for sure he’s god and you’ve experienced that first hand? If not then yes he’s just playing mind games why else would he claim that? He didn’t just say “oh I’m enlightened” he said “I’m god” which means what is means