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no-self isn't enlightenment rather it's a closing down of the mind without yes-self yet coming to the fore love need not be spoken about pre enlightenment since people will get lost in their ideas and be corrupted by unawake teachers love is intoxicating seductive and dangerous - no two unawake people can give the same definition or even the right essense when you are enlightened you get love unambiguously and overpoweringly

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the limited self isn't a complicated beast per se, the only prayer implicit is allow me this here air to breathe and my daily bread o my god then put on the sun screen and let's head to the beach to hang with fam and have fun

completely agreed and thank you for your words, just fleshing it out for the sake of my flesh, and maybe others if they exist

suffering is striving to stick around, selfishness, self superiority, sociopathy that is having you do my bidding i merit being here and favor this dream over the end of this dream if you didn't do any of this, you would let yourself die

i say there are two modes of operation, thinking and awareness, both are ever available self CAN decide not to entertain certain thoughts, you see its arrival and you don't allow its entry for example the thought of anger arises, you see it, instead of engaging it you take ten silent breaths, anger has fled awareness is the superpower which achieves this, it is your gatekeeper, the ever present monitor, your highest nature watching the show in fact, you CAN dismiss all thoughts in this way and operate from awareness instead if you need to think about something, you can do so awarely, mindfully, dispassionately sitting on the cushion for a while each day is the training ground for this process all thoughts distort the what is, awareness recognises all is unobstructed flawless clarity

you want the trappings not the teachings, seem like it gives you comfort and respectability christianity is one thing, jesus to identify as christian and strip out the putative Son of God may make you feel good but you won't be able to declare this to others since without him you will be living a lie i would say sort out what about jesus resonates and what doesn't

beautiful isn't to do with the seen but the seer, it's how you look not what you see clue is in the word be you to full

blindingly obvious but which of us have the eyes the intention the time you know more becomes you no more

there is one step, know who you are then do as you enjoy, we established the site owner does not

you're the whole jimmy buffet and then some would you like fries too?

full enlightenment ... the owner has been owned, the torch has been passed

thank you for being here x @Osaid

to coin some fine rene and the good bard-smith himself to know more and to be more is to be no more

god doesn't exist! but nor does god not exist god isn't everything but god isn't nothing either these are all silly mind games you need to see through god is the set of all stuff mind understands plus the set of all stuff mind does not understand

some want to fly high like god some want to fly high as god

there is the manifest the unmanifest the beyond ... the first two are the third's toys

mind contaminates MIND, fix your mind then everything is good and pure and true thoughts are nothing but window dressing that prevent you seeing the pristine perfection all around

the key insight is that everyone you meet acts from their current level of consciousness direct anger at me all you wish, it is water off a duck's back, you will deal with it when you're ready anger departed my arsenal long ago

before spiritual life we are 100% thoughts, goal of spiritual life is 100% awareness in other words your true nature at the outset, awareness is experienced as the gap between two thoughts, that is you can only stop thinking for a few seconds awareness is empty but not passive, peaceful but not powerless, real but veiled thought is automatic and conditioned and relentless and survival oriented and illusory at the outset you are wholly controlled by thoughts and you are not even aware that there is even an alternative the gradual path is to go from having thought in foreground and awareness in background to having awareness in foreground and thought in background, namely from having thoughts as boss to awareness as boss anger can't stand in the presence of awareness since anger is about imposing misery on people who i believe are out of line awareness is the state of utter non-reactivity in the firm knowledge that everything right now is perfect

nice little reddit piece that fits here too https://www.reddit.com/r/enlightenment/comments/16he2n0/i_was_allowed_to_understand/

love is to give more than was possible before the way the means the key to an unlocked door

great posts here thanks yes you have to do everything with your own needs, strengths, values and goals in the forefront and not compromise them to fit in with norms or the chased after gender and this is easier for men since women are more entrenched in conditioning so it is harder for her to break out of this people pleasing mindset

you are an object you are not a subject the seen not the seer indeed you are no different to me and henceforth shall grow the seeds of love