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One man's genocide is another man's thinning the herd so his poor kids can not starve. A murder in my neighbourhood is a devastating tragedy to all well-meaning people; Ten thousand Rohingya starving to death in a Bangladeshi refugee camp is a footnote on page 7.

He is correct from what I expereince. You believe in separation and so you see it everywhere. It is non-existent. It needs collapsing. This is the work. Witness/awareness is indeed duality. But it is the stepping-stone. It is the pre-requisite. It is the most you can do. It is an abidance in peace and a non-resistance of all that is. Then reality rushes in to your aid to shower you with truth and grace. You have become a fit vessel.

Everyone is angry not just you. What you need is the antidote. Forgiveness. You have to hold in your mind that nobody out here wants to be a murderer. That's how YOU stop being a murderer.

Yes excellent. I think we’re actually aligned on this main point. I myself also don’t want to land on a conceptual conclusion like “I am consciousness” and announce that as enlightenment. It does seem like that can become another position the mind holds onto, which indeed subtly creates a split rather than dissolving it. Where I think we’re fully in agreement is that whatever reality is, it isn’t something that can be captured or reduced to a concept. Like you said, it’s more like an openness to what has no limits, rather than us arriving at a definition of it. For me, the sole difference is more in approach than in aim. I do not try to define what I am, but I do find it most helpful, practically, to notice how identification with thoughts or fear seems to create the sense of contraction and separation. So the “not identifying” piece isn’t an absolute truth claim, but it's a way of not reinforcing that contraction. So I guess I’d say I shy away from trying to describe what reality ultimately is, but instead stop feeding what seems to limit it in experience. Beyond that, I’m fine leaving it open rather than concluding anything like “it is consciousness” or anything like that.

Be the KISA of every devil. Knight in shining armor. Every sinner needs a saint and every saint arrives a sinner.

High quality is how fast and reliably you can drop what you think you know, how you think you perceive (you don't receive a world, you give a world) and who you think you are. It's all borrowed garbage. Meditation is curative.

I do see what you mean about not wanting to create any extra structure or a separate observer. For me, the point of noticing thoughts and feelings isn’t to define what I am, but to train myself to stop automatically taking them as me. I’m not trying to hold onto a position like “this isn’t me,” just to loosen that reflex. In the same way, with fear, it’s not so much about whether it is me or not, but seeing how identifying with it and feeding it seems to keep tension and separation in place. So in my case I’m less interested in defining what’s true at an absolute level, and more in not reinforcing what creates that contraction in the first place.

Suffering via legion bearers of evil is coming to get you. Maybe bad maybe slight. You can't forestall or forego. It may come the day you are born or in a 100 years. That's alas random or at best out of your hands. So all you can do is make sure you and your kids wake up on day dot. Or as soon as possible thereafter. That's your only task. Welcome to planet suffering. You stand in the crosshairs today. Wake tf up my lovely. Put in the time. You will awaken one day so why not now.

Broaden your definition. Can you define religion?

If you think religion is child abuse, maybe broaden your definition of religion. EVERYONE has a religion and, naturally, passes it on to their kids.

Child only does what parent rubber-stamps. Childhood is sanitised slavery, Be a good monkey and you'll be treated well. Schools are glorified baby-sitting warehouses. Churches are legalised brain-washing cults. Am I wrong?

They have no agency or standing. If they go off-piste for 5 seconds, parents call the police. Only a slight overstatement there. Source: I was that child.

For me there are two attitudes to life - gratitude and entitlement. I deserve all this and please feed me more despite hardly having lifted a finger vs. I have been afforded an incredible opportunity at the best time ever and I am in awe and humbled that I get to reside in this astonishing body. Entitled people blame their providers and want to quit when the chips are down while grateful people are standing on the shoulders of giants and marvel at the sweat blood and tears that brought them to this moment in time. And which you are is a choice.

Until you are of age, everything you do is imposed.

Reality is not two, right? What we term “awareness” and “appearance” are just two ways of describing the same happening. From one angle, reality is awareness knowing; from another, reality is appearances arising. And they are not separate. By identification I mean taking what arises, that is thoughts, feelings, even the sense of self, to be what I am. Observing them isn’t the final step of course, but it loosens that identification and sets the stage for the dissolution of separation. I agree that you can then identify as the observer, but even that can be seen right? So for me it’s not about holding onto the separate observer, but gently seeing that whatever I can notice isn’t ultimately what I am.

Does the anger experience exist? No. It is me pretending to be God and claiming you have sinned and are bad as if that could be true. No such situation exists. It seems to exist - because yours truly enjoys cosplaying God and smacking down other separate selves. It's an obstacle to Truth. Truth allows this but knows nothing of false stuff. Anger doesn't exist save in silly dreams. Your anger is why you didn't awaken.

Read The Disappearance of the Universe or the Lifetimes when Jesus and Buddha knew each other.

To solve the world is child's play. God's play is to dissolve it. And re-dreaming it. And tweaking it. And admiring itself. All in a day's work.

I actually agree with the majority of what you’re saying here, in particular that there isn’t a separate “controller” self managing thoughts. That part resonates. Where I see it slightly differently is this: So when a thought like “I am anxious” appears, I’m not ignoring it or suppressing it. And I’m also not trying to replace it. I’m just noticing: In other words: So the shift isn’t: But more like: On the emotional side, again we agree that fear, contraction, etc. can be felt directly. That’s important. But even there, the practice is: So instead of: it becomes: And interestingly, that doesn’t suppress anything. It actually allows it more fully, because nothing is being resisted or claimed. So for me, meditation isn’t about controlling thoughts or dissolving into them, but instead: Not by force, just by seeing clearly:

I get what you’re pointing to, but I see it slightly differently. It still seems like there’s a “you” that is either creating thoughts or stopping them. In my experience, thoughts don’t need to be controlled or explained that way. They just emerge. The key shift for me isn’t whether thoughts arise or not, but whether I take them personally and give them meaning about who I am. So if the thought “I’m anxious” appears, it’s not something I created or something I need to push away. It’s just something arising in awareness. My practice is more like: not adding more to it, not building identity from it, and letting it pass on without interpretation. When I don’t add meaning, things naturally loosen. This is not because I made them stop, but because nothing is being held onto. So it’s less about controlling thoughts, and more about not taking them as a “me.” What I find is, when nothing is taken personally, then nothing is truly separate.

Meditation is stepping outside the imagined reality - which is quite simply my interpretation. The mind itself doesn’t switch on and off; it keeps moving, but my one freedom is to not follow its meanings. I then see what is arising without adding anything to it. In that moment, identity loosens, because identity is nothing but added meaning held in place. I don't seek to stop thoughts, but to stop being the one they are about. For example, if the thought “I am anxious” appears, I notice that as a movement in awareness, not as a statement about what I am. I don’t engage or correct it, just subtract what was added. Then I return to the simple recognition: nothing missing is what makes nothing separate.

Never a better time to be alive and all we do is argue bitch complain ad nauseam how bad it it how blighted the world how blameworthy God is. We did nothing ourselves to cause the wars the famines the corruption. I am innocent and others not to mention God are wholly to blame for my woe.

I like to read and study the darkest of the dark. I want to understand. And I have come to. I devour all true crime and deviant personality studies - I volunteer in the prison and work soup kitchens and shelters. There is a reason people get where they get. They were treated deplorably and they dish that out on others as being the only response they know. Hurt people hurt people. The more awake you become you move from I mind what happens to I care what happens. You see everyone as broken wounded fragile. You recognise I could be them very easily. There but for grace go I. I am willing to go through shit if need be. I will take a bullet to the head if it will save a hostage's or a child's life. Reason is I believe that would be a force for good in the perpetrator's mind. Could be a turning point. My life does not mean anything now that I see.

Boredom is the belief: something is missing, something is lacking, let something here be different. Peace is the recognition: nothing is missing, nothing is lacking, let everything here be as it is. The shift is this: I no longer take myself to be someone in lack. I withdraw this meaning I myself added. I chased excitement for so long that lack became the default. But it was something I always brought to the table.

I need to forget humans and focus on myself. My life is hard due to self inflicted wounds. I can't lay that on God. If I work on me, I can wake up. Then I can be used by God to make the world a less shit place. The saving of the entire world is in my hands. Will I step up is the only question.