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Just imagine the spiral view on all these groups of people. A stage green hippie would consider a Vietnam vet a murderer, while a stage blue person considers that person a hero. A stage orange film director who uses his position for sex would be considered a rapist by stage green and blue people, even though it would be legal under the law. And Mandela is considered a terrorist by blue English MPs pre- 1991, and after he is considered a hero post-1994. Maybe I'm too relativistic, but all of these labels are sometimes fluid.

I agree. I'm lucky to be brought up in a country with a lot of opportunities and a genuine pursuit of fairness. However, some developed countries are all slogans and rights for me, and not so much attention on everyone else's rights, historically speaking.

Why does some society spawn more crazy than others is my follow-up question? I don't want to abuse stats, but, why does 4% of the world keep an unproportionate high prison population, 25% of the inmates of the world. Another important factor to consider is who does the labeling? For example, Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist, today, however, many consider him a freedom fighter who ended an unjust system. And rape is also a term that has changed its definition. There used to be a time when rapists were given lighter sentences because their victims were dressed provocatively. I think we should keep improving our families, schools, and courts. Acknowledge our weaknesses, such as our bias, and improve our strengths, such as thriftiness. Our democratic society is good in many aspects, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't strive for improvement.

I like Paul Kagame, the president of Rwanda. One can’t deny he’s almost a dictator, but his country is doing well, on a African context. Rwanda stage of development and past trauma isn’t ready for democracy, I’d estimate. I wonder however what would happen if Russia or Turkey would go full democracy? Would those society transition into it seamlessly, or would parts of there country break down and arouse a regressive response from the populace.

@zazen I agree with most aspects of your assessment. Modernity doesn’t favour the old school pair bounding at the same rate. Look at non-western industrialised countries such as South Korea and Japan. Furthermore, declining birth rates is a global phenomena. Russia and former soviet republic are struggling with that to.

I wonder why few mention humanity’s migration from rural agrarian setting to an urban setting. Imagine sleeping around in a small town. Village folks or farmers wouldn’t stand for it. Now however, with huge metropolitan city settings are people more anonymous to do what ever. Less societal pressure from peers or neighbours. Not saying our current situation is good or bad, but it need to be pointed out that humanity went from mostly rural living to today mostly urban living. If the setting has a prominent or subordinate influence on our value is less important, but I bet that cities has had an impact on the dating market, as most markets are affected by urbanisation.

Your forget to mention the part about these guys being considered heretics among there Arab league brothers. Ghadaffi and Saddam where both secular, so the other gulf and Arab states didn’t mind them being deposed. On the contrary, Qatar and UAE contributed with hardware and soldiers to sack colonel Ghadaffi. He wouldn’t reach that fate without the go ahead from gulf and other Arab states. He was very respected among sub-Saharan African but hated among his ”own”.

I think that the society which Rogan operates in is ripe for “alternative facts” or “conspiracy theories” and he’s doped up brain attracts sensational stories. The media business is failing while guys like Rogan stood ready at rebound position to take over, unknowingly though. Rogan wouldn’t consider himself as news outlet or media for that matter. However, he plays usually an antagonistic role against mainstream media and undermines established journalism. Finally, I usually like him and some of his guest he manage to bring to his show.

I wonder what the penalty for breaking the video game curfew will be. 6 hours of hard Manuel labour for every half hour exceeded above the limit set time?

Middle Eastern and Muslim countries do often get a bad rep. However, most non combative middle eastern countries are pretty low in crime, relative to global trends. This is often maintained through hard stage blue principles, but nonetheless, it is more likely to be murdered in somewhere in the new world or sub-Saharan Africa than the Muslim world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

I’m foreigner in a western country and I notice a great difference between western countries. English speaking places seem more chatty than Germanic speaking countries. Many people here in Sweden consider Americans as randomly sociable; an observation I’ve experienced myself.

@mandyjw Good point. It almost flew passed me head to. ?

My bookshelf consists of mainly self-help books. However, I have contemplated that there are some great self-help lessons in literature as well. Leo's book list, which I have bought, consists of few novels or short stories I have noticed. I understand his rationale, but I think there is a personal sweet spot between work and play, fact and context, self-help and literature. Would you credit novels to your curiosity towards spirituality and awakening or societal issues at large? A personal minor awakening was inspired by George Orwell's 1984. I just noticed that I posted this thread on the wrong forum. The subject should have been posted on the self-actualization forum. Excuse me.

I like the first quote, but your second quote; is that you referring to life as fantasy?

@Girzo I haven't read through Brave New World , but you are indeed right, it was pretty trippy to listen to its audio version.

Short stories are also powerful too. The Bible contains plenty of short stories, which I interpret as how bad emotions would lead to bad outcomes. Cain and Abel, jealousy is bad. I don't remember them clearly, but there are a bunch of lessons in the short stories from the Bible and other books for that matter.

@DocWatts Where would you place George Orwell's work on the spiral?

There’s some profound quotes prophet Muhammad pbuh said, like the one below. I think Leo mentioned this quote in a different form, in one of his video. He talked about small and large Jihad. I go from embracing to deconstructing/debunking Islam. I can’t find an appropriate balance/integration acceptance, and resistance in relation to my Islamic background.

The Armenian genocide, French recognition of their part in the Rwanda genocide, the Tulsa massacre commemoration, Justin Trudeau apologizes on Canada's behalf over the newly found mass graves. Add the list if you know more atrocities that have been recognized this past year. It's maybe the youtube algorithm but this year have many past crimes resurfaced where world leaders apologize for crimes committed in past. I have always got a strange feeling when people talk about how their identity or ethnic background is responsible for accomplishments in civilazation. I feel that if one wants to take credit for one ethnic background one should include both the good and the bad, maybe because I identify with an ethnic background with few accomplishments for society. Is this activity of acknowledging past crimes positive or constructive? Should more nations or ethnic backgrounds atone and acknowledge their "past crimes", or is this exercise silly and we should focus more on the present? Or is all of this just political? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKU_Lpe32xU

One of my favorite anecdotes from Leo's videos is about Socrates when he was put on trial for corrupting the youth. Most of my role models died for a cause they believed in. However, do I not exclude people who lose a lot for what they believe in, meaning that they don't have to pay the ultimate price. Now to my question, how conscious is the act of martyrdom. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thích_Quảng_Đức

Is a person who knows beforehand that he or she would be canceled to be considered a light martyr?