Artsu
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I have to keep in mind, that even if I'm at coral, part of me exists at yellow still. Yellow study isn't so bad.
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The problem I have with study is that it represents a yellow way of being, and as a coral I have moved past that. I studied as turquoise and I didn't perform as well as when I was yellow. It wasn't as great a fit. As turquoise I was more interested in typology and spirituality. I went through the mergings at the same time. Also I wanted to get an IQ test but I feel this may favour a yellow way of thinking. I don't think spirituality really translates into IQ. As part of mystery A I developed my understanding of synchronicity, and in mystery B I focused on good and evil. Now for mystery C.
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I am currently on the verge of mystery C, which is Te for me. I plan to study as the transcendent Te and Si are developing. When the standard Te and Si were developing I pulled off good results with study so I am hoping for a repeat. I will be studying mathematics and statistics.
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I mark my reaching coral and the mysteries with the one experience.
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So we go up the SS index from most concrete to most abstract as we develop. The intuitive levels usually aren't even reached.
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Elevator of enlightenment Mah'zute Se Dar'yu Si Uther Fe Fu'masta Te Self and society Fi Earth and cosmos Ti Mystery A and B Ne Mystery C and D Ni See above.
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Spiral dynamics Purple pre cognitive Red Se Blue Si and Fe Orange Te Green Fi Yellow Ti Turquoise Ne Coral Ni This refers to the themes at play at each level. People of any type may be at any level, but type may influence level preference.
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The 8 cognitive functions develop alongside the elevator of enlightenment. Mah'zute 1 and 2 Dar'yu 3 and 4 Uther 5 and 6 Fu'masta 7 and 8 Self 1 Society 2 Earth 3 Cosmos 4 Mystery A-D 5-8
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I am INFJ, Se/Si subtype.
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I reached fu'masta at 14, self at 18, society at 20, earth at 21, cosmos at 23, mystery A at 25 and mystery B at 28, and now I am entering mystery C. Mystery D may be the last level.
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I have determined that I got to green when I was 11, yellow at 14, turquoise at 18 and coral at 25. Coral may be the last level.
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I'm an MBTI expert and I'm not trolling. You're the one who doesn't know what they're doing. This forum is fucked.
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Enough to infer your dominant function. You might be ISFJ but the Si dominance is clear.
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Carl is Si dominant, look at the way he starts posts.
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@thisintegrated FiNe @Carl-Richard SiTe @AtheisticNonduality TiNe
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If there IS a correlation between horizontal and vertical typology, I would say that Ne types are more likely to be at a higher level, so there is SOME truth to spiral dynamics. - I've developed my own vertical typology model, similar to Pod'lair's elevator of enlightenment. I will make a thread about it soon.
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I just looked at the stereotypes that spiral dynamics holds, which is not real vertical typology by the way, and it divides up as follows: Red: Se Blue: Si Orange: Te Green: Fe Yellow: Ne+Ti Turquoise: Ne+Fi I'm not sure where Ni fits in. I'll come back to that later. That means that spiral dynamics is a typist model that posits a superiority as in: N>F>T>S and Ji>Je. Scrap this model and pick a real vertical typology model.
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I have to break my 777 post count for this thread. Typology, both horizontal and vertical, are my areas of expertise. - If you're talking about spiral dynamics as a political typology then I have no idea. But if you're talking about spiral dynamics for its legitimate vertical typology component, then the answer is this: Vertical and horizontal typology don't really correlate. They influence each other, so an INFJ turquoise will look very different to an ESTJ turquoise, but any correlation is slight in terms of which types are at which levels. More to come.
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Yeah anyone can say they relate to something, but do they really understand it? An SD test could be created, but it would be more like an IQ test than a personality assessment.
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I spent a lot of time in orange just seeing what was out there in terms of my interests, and trying to determine the best of the best (in things like music and philosophy). When you go past orange, things will really change. It's a whole new chapter of life. Then you will experience transcendence. So go on a search for the highest information. You already have some of it given that you're on this site. And importantly, it's your journey, not ours. You will feel within yourself what you are meant to be doing. You don't have to love a negative situation. Rather, love will pull you through the negative situation. Love, faith. And so on.
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Most of most groups are probably conformist/conventional.
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Artsu replied to Apparition of Jack's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Partly. -
Artsu replied to Apparition of Jack's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
"Birds have nests, and foxes have dens, but the son of man has no where to lay his head." -
Artsu replied to nistake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I meditated heavily for a brief while. Now i can relate to what you say about entering the meditative state very quickly. I now meditate for shorter times. Mindfulness is more used to combat negative emotions like anxiety, and these are less than they used to be. -
Artsu replied to Apparition of Jack's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Blue is about belonging needs. Its the community focus of religion that makes it blue. A good approach to religion can take you right up the spiral.