Bogdan

This conversation has been super eye opening for me. I'm realizing indeed I am being way too cynical, and also that I actually am able to extract the good and leave the bad. At least moreso than in the past. In fact, what Teal teaches has been truly life transforming for me. Like the parts Leo was mentioning, and reciprocity, and others. Funny how in the moment I was stuck in the negative. I think I've been falling in the trap of becoming alergic to new agey stuff, cause I'm finally getting rid of all those beliefs myself. But I shouldn't throw away everything that has a worse noise-to-signal ratio than Actualized, lol. Damn, I almost fell in the trap of thinking "I'm better" than Teal for a sec 😆 when in fact I'm just starting to make sense of all this stuff, after (only) a decade of Actualized.

I just read what y'all have replied on this topic. I find it interesting how all of us have more or less the same view on Teal. Makes me curious about why that is! I wanna add this regarding Teal's teachings - from what I understand she is big on not bulldozing aspects of self. Not letting one need or thought dominate another. She seems to be dogmatic about there always being a 3rd common ground option, and that there is no need for "zero-sum games". And that bulldozing always leads to repression or something. I think the paradox there is that this common ground option ends up dominating over zero-sum games in your worldview. It's a damned if you do or if you don't situation. At the time I was searching for advice that would help me with my crippling weed addiction. And for me this kind of advice was not useful at all. The opposite, even. One super important thing that ended up helping was Leo clearly communicating that sometimes you just need to fuckin use brute force, keep focus, vision and fuckin bulldoze through. Some things just require that. So thank you Leo for that also. 💪😎

@Miguel1 imma write this and go to bed, but tomorrow I'm looking forward to reading all of you guys' thoughts From what I've seen, she might have useful stuff for people who are on the brink of suicide. I personally know someone that claims Teal's videos helped her in not making that decision. But honestly, I think Teal is too lost in her own imagination with some stuff. She claims she has extra sensory perceptions, which.. fair enough. But then she makes claims about different types of aliens. And also about AI being a sort of being from another dimension.. She keeps having opinions about how WW3 is already happening blabla. She told some person attending a retreat that their friend (or someone else) is possessed by an alien ... where muh epistemology at? 😆 I seeing a lot of new agers parroting this type of stuff, and I suspect a lot of it originates from her. People that follow her tend to believe she is a super special being, sent to be a sort of high level priestess of this world, and I think she perpetuates this narrative. Also I personally found some of her ideas about trauma, and therapy harmful for my journey. But probably that's not on her, but on me. So I am currently finding too much of her content wacky, schizophrenic and not nuanced enough. Too much noise vs signal.

That video is actually a direct quote from you, lol. From a blog or forum post. Dunno if you care, but on two occasions I saw the guy commenting on videos you post on your blog with your commentary

I whole-heartedly agree bro

to paraphrase Leo - rats be ratting 😆

same thought. without epistemology, metaphysics etc these trips will possibly just strengthen his current worldview.

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxVQg6hZp2TuC5WTqmwzv3AbqZBgUpdI2H?si=fB199H9EnFnBhGBL Here's his trip report he just posted

I haven't seen that video. I don't watch fitness content much these days. But I know, right? His advice made my training so intuitive and free and enjoyable even! I think Mike Israetel is a good example of not a very good positioning in societal survival, since he has to maintain his image as a smart gym guy, that has to keep people kissing his smart gym ass to make a living, y'know? 😆 To me it's like... Just use consciousness. Say I wanna grow x muscle. Is the muscle stimulated or not? What does it do? How do I create tension in it? How do I enhance it's strength in the motions that it's meant to do? And how do I not over do it? It's really not that complicated.

Guys, I've studied the fitness industry at nauseum for almost 10 years now. I came into lifting from a sedentary background, and got injured a lot of times due to training as if I already had an athletic body. Long story short, for compound lifts, I recommend this sort of approach: I didn't know who to listen to, so I went balls to the wall on everything. I was dumb, yes. For hypertrophy I found a GVS (Geoffrey Verity Schofield) approach to work best. Check out Lucas Hardie aka Range Of Strength to remain flexible while doing so. Check out David Weck to take care of your spine, balance and coordination. Btw GVS - one of the best (probably natty) natural bodybuilder ever, pretty much agrees with what Leo said, as advice for beginners.

So the intelligent thing to do is to get through enough socialization asap so one can move on and naturally value higher spiritual stuff? Is that a good way of putting it?

Me too. I used to have severe allergies, digestive problems and skin rashes since I was a kid. In the last years they were getting worse, I developed joint pains and much worse skin rashes that would not heal, and I found two things that helped - either strict carnivore, (which was a nightmare for me regarding sugar cravings) - and what I do now, which is eating the majority of my calories from carbs, BUT I need to not go overboard with the fats. I can even eat straight table sugar or juices, honey, etc simple carbs (things I blamed before for instantly making my symptoms horrible) and I feel great as long as I I make a minimum of effort to not eat too much fat. And surprisingly this way I don't really want processed sugar almost at all. Plus, an active lean body uses simple sugar much differently from a sedentary obese one. It was a lightbulb moment for me when I realized "unhealthy sugar" - chocolate bars, donuts, sprinkles, milkshakes etc. are just blobs of fat with sugar. 20, 30+ grams of fat per 100g, alongside those 30, 40+ grams of sugar.

Hm, I think it's possible your current human state of consciousness is still constructing false distinctions/dualities with - experience vs non-experience, arising vs falling, and untouched vs touched. What I see right now is that experience is, by definition, all there is. You say Truth remains untouched, as if that which is touched is not Truth. Isn't that separation you're making?

Ok well.. maybe try 5-meo a bunch of times and then report back? I don't know what else to say

@James123 I see. Sooo... Did you put 5-meo up your bum or not? 😂