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@Meliodas Stop thinking of it as dating look at it as learning to get better relationships with people in general, being a social person. Your 18 you could do fuck all for the next 4 years and you'll only be 22 enjoy life

Yup its actually very useful once you build up a nice profile. Have about 6-9 high quality pics on yourself and have a nice story catalog of you doing interesting things. I actually started using my instagram more to meet chicks in the last year or so and the results have been great for me. If i approach in person sometimes the girl doesnt feel comfortable giving out her number so insta is less compliance, if you build up an interesting page she will usually comment on one of your stories and from there you can exchange numbers and go for the meet up. Its not my main method of meeting chicks but it is effective when used right

If your over 6 add it if your under don't, dont forget dating apps are very superficial women also don't really care about height as long as you're taller than her. Ive had many short friends kill it with women

Thats life you think getting a degree is any different at least you only have to pay 5k people get college degrees dont get a job and have to pay 50-70k in student loans

Yup his happens learning how to screen women for sexual compatibility is a must if your going to be gaming, once you establish a connection, whatever is you must sexualy screen her, you did everything right she just wasn't the one. If you wanted to keep talking to her as a friend thats fine, but if not you should just politely excused yourself and moved on theres no need to waste any time or mental energy

If your fine with being a version kudos to you but 99 percent of men aren't virgins by choice you can take steps to fixing and not have a defeatist mindset tho thats much better.

Being well groomed doesn't mean being handsome it means looking well kept and presentable, smelling good basic stuff. Also don't get fooled by RSD's infield vids you don't see the dozens of blowouts they through to get one particular clip, I remember Tyler saying it took him 70-90 approaches to get a good infield clip, it was literally these peoples jobs to approach women

Nope, mabey 5-7 years ago, but these days there's so many teachers on the subject you give insane value for free. If I were to pay for anything PUA related it would be a bootcamp.

@something_else I get that, buts why I specifically started off by telling him to work out i know what it was like being a tall skinny teen, ive heard the "eat till you puke" line and it just never resonated with me. Doing nothing and consuming that much food isn't a stable plan to gain weight, if you go hard in the gym you will naturally want to eat a lot and this will reinforce the habit

You cannot transcend what you judge try to understand their ideology with an open mind and watch your biases cloud your judgement

Start working out more the more active you are the more hungry you will be and then the rest falls in place

Yup this is one of the paradigm shifting moments I had after doing many many cold approaches, if your a well groomed man, who approaches someone with a relaxed, confident, playful demeanor you'll actually make them feel very good. Ive hardly ever got negative responses from cold approach, if the girl isn't interested i'd usually get the "im not intrested but your compliment was really thoughtful" or something like that and you move on. Imagine if a chick came up to you while you were grocery shopping and introduced herself to you and gave you a genuine compliment, even if you didnt like her you would still feel happy, thats exactly how most other women are going to react if you do it right.

Probably in jail that dude was living life on the edge

@Whitesnow It depends on an absolute scale yes beauty is very objective, there have been studies that showed that certain features on a person's face are universally attractive to everybody all over the world. But in a practical sense everybody has their type and that can pretty personal. Why is it you want a high value man? There are many average or below average guys out there with nice personalities you could be compatible with. To be the most happy you want to find someone at your level, as harsh as it sounds punching above your weight class will just lead to potential abuse as the power dynamic in the relationship is too skewed in one direction. Even if you were hypothetically able to get your dream man you would lose him in an instant because you have such a negative view of yourself, people can sense the bitterness and desperation coming off you, that will naturally repel people in its own right. You should invest some time into consciously dating, learn how to optimize the hand you were dealt with, your postionion is nothing new as this is actually what a majority of men face when dating which leads them to massive self-improvement. You cant skip over the "relationship and dating" phase of your life, it will always nag you because its in our biology to develop good relationships with people whether is platonic or romantic. You should prioritize the next 1-2 years making yourself as attractive as possible, consider getting plastic surgery, devloping a comprehensive workout routine, dialing in on your diet, learning social skills and how to be more "open and approachable", understanding male vs female relationship dynamics. ect. The average guy is not going to screen so hard on beauty if everything you can control is in good standings. Check this link out if your curious on what you can do to improve about your appearance-https://www.qoves.com/services/ You don't have it as easy as other naturally attractive women but you can use this as a catalyst to pour tremendous amounts of self-improvent into yourself and grow from there. Not only will you feel more confident in your own skin but most importantly you will develop a deeper love for yourself which is probably the most important quality a person could have about themselves.

Working as a club promoter, bartending, working in any retail stores specializing in womens clothes, personal trainer, being a male stripper, basically anything where a majority of your customers are women and your allowed to talk to them without it being weird.

This isnt always true some guys just have an urge to sex and nothing more, they don't want to dance around and play games and don't expect anything afterwards.

Hot take- Everybody has a price, and yes I would but only short term

Anything difficult you do and make a considerable amount progress in will make you into a stronger man.

Anybody can cold approach but that takes massive amounts of self-esteem, if 98% of people cant cold approach and their perfectly normal do you think someone with genetic problems will be able to? its just not cost effective if he has a deformity he shouldn't be doing cold approach he should be finding social groups that reflects his values and accepts him and go from there. Some people arnt meant to sleep with many women and that.s fine you can still build deep connects with people and something good may turn up. Don't create more problems for yourself if your a normal guy embrace it and be grateful I can see you using this to rationalize why cold approach isn't worth it and thats not a good mentality

@zazen Solid post, did you write the quote yourself or did you get from somewhere? That quote hit the nail on the head

If your fear of talking to women runs this deep going out and getting a prostitute wont do you any good. If your insecurity was about your sexual performance and you didnt have the necessary experience this would make sense, but hiring a prostitute to fix your social anxiety is not a good move. If I wear you I would try to really break down what's making you create this limiting beliefs you have towards women how has the content you've watched you, life experiences, your environment taught you about women? Being terribly anxious around women is a symptom of something deeper, Do you have a good friend group? Are you physically active? Do you have enjoyable hobbies? Hows your mental health? Can you financially sustain yourself? You should really take the time to contemplate these things and address the mental side of the equation because even if you found a chick that liked you she would smell your needies and run. Take some time to understand things before you dive straight into your fears.

Go to a juice spot or any place and just order a non alcoholic beverage, the place or activity isn't important, getting to know the chick under a "romantic setting" is all that matters. Remember if the chick agrees to meet with you she is interested in you know all you have to do is see if shes compatible with what you want. The more important thing you should be worrying about is your date logistics, you want adventure on your dates don't just go to one place. What I do is grab a spot chill for a little bit and then go for a walk and then invite her back to my place at the end, (which you don't have to do if your a beginner). Use your judgement if she clearly looks out of it and can't communicate don't waste your time move onto others, theres some people who say that cold approaching chicks is predatory its all up to you.

Its just conditioning the more women you talk to the less strange it becomes to walk up to random people and strike up a conversion. Most of the time if your friendly, respectful and and exclude authenticity you will not get a bad response. Mabey out of 100 daygame approaches you get 2-3 negative responses,(they arnt really that negative tbh) which is something you have no control over, they could be having a bad day. Do you feel anxious when driving in your car? Think about it your getting in a box traveling 60-70 mph where one wrong turn or someone else's mistake could cost you your life, yet you could do it without thinking. Most times you have a pleasant drive but there'll always be that one asshole that honks at you or does dumb stuff for no reason other than he's in a bad mood or something. Its the same with women, there's a reason anybody who is good with chicks tells you, you must interact with hundreds or thousands of women. You must condition yourself to view this as normal they same way you view getting into your car and driving to work normal.

Dude relax man im assuming your a young 20 something year old stop focusing on women and just improve yourself. Start at the gym learn monitizable skills read uplifting material and set goals you want in life. If your here to vent thats ok but you have to realize since this is a self-improvement forum people are going to try to help you when when you post stuff like this. Lets face it you have your youth a healthy body and mind why waste it on this negative bullshit, forget about women for year or two and focusing on just getting comfortable in your own skin. Try finding a therapist who you can vent and explain your life story to, maybe they can give an insight on traumas you may have experienced in the past. and you can go from there. Understand even if girls were to find you attractive or interested in you cannot do anything because you have so many limiting beliefs and insecurities your literally preventing yourself from experiencing love

@Whitesnow is a Woman, cold approaching guys as a chick does not help. Her issue was that she is not being approached by men and she wants to be the purseurer but in unsure how to go about it.