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@Monkey_in_suit There are specialists that are specifically trained to do this procedure because most dentists have a very material understanding on how oral healthcare works you would need t find a more holistic dentist

Easier said then done Incels have way bigger issues than just being social their starting at such a low point of shame, insecurity, limiting beliefs its like like telling a man thats been homeless for 5 years, "Go make money bro!" "Were not in a recession any more"

@Noahsteelers34 Glad you reconsidered it, one thing you got going for you is that you have balls, your only a freshman so i suggest you don't take your career as serious this year, take this time to come out of your shell date new girls, join clubs, party and have fun. Also take the time to network with other people who have the job your looking to get. If your dorming you shouldn't be in your room unless your sleeping, doing hw or having sex. Go out talk to people and network. One tip I'll give you for professional networking is use your teachers to connect you to a few professionals and send cold email to them leveraging your school email account. Your much more likely to get a response and you can use this to get a deeper understanding of whatever field you plan on going into. There are so many things you can do to extract the value colleges are charging. When I graduated from college I was at around 6k in debt and had multiple high paying job offers to choose from. This took tremendous amount of effort and refusing to be passive about my college experience. College is not a scam if your creative and take your growth serious. Dm me if you have any other questions about college I personally loved the experience and believed I got my moneys worth.

@Shiva99 why are you trying to fight it so much thats your body showing you its working, I used to have limiting beliefs with masturbation because of all these eople saying its "bad" or "fogs your mind" but it doesn't at all. Just kick back enjoy it and stop judging yourself and move on. Theres going to be a time where even getting one erection is going to seem like a win so enjoy it and relax

@Noahsteelers34 Bro everything im about to write in this post is coming from a place of love and is meant to shock you so you can understand the gravity of your situation. Take the time to read this out and understand college isn't as black and white as you believe. Hopefully this makes you ask the hard questions and gives you some guidance. This is not a well thought out plan when you give up an "opportunity" like college it has to be for something equal. The fact you dont already have some projects or endeavors your considering shows you immaturity and lack of planning. You don't understand how unbelievably difficult this is. Most people who make even 75k a year cant hope to save more than 20k and those people have decent skills to offer. As a 18-19 year old you would be lucky to find a job that pays $20 an hour and even if you do it will be a dead end job with practical transferable skills or career prospects. You will actually be taking a step backwards as the notion of waking up and slaving 8 hours plus a day on some minimum wage job will break you School is not this expensive if you use your brain. People who pay this amount of money a year are lazy and just do things without thinking. First of community college is an option and only costs around 6k per semester and that's not including government grants and scholarships. You could do 2 years there and then finish up at a college that interests you many people do that. This could save you 10's of thousands of dollars Second you could take online classes your first year or two and then take in person classes which could also save 10's of thousands of dollars. Third you don't have to dorm this immediately cuts your bill in half and you can work at your school and make friends that way and leverage that into something good. Stop saying "im paying 35k a year" actually take time to consider how you could lower this price, your an idiot if you pay the full sticker amount for your tution your just being lazy and hoping everything magically gets figured out. Again stop being Lazy, if this is really what you want take some online classes your first year as you'll mostly be learning general education and use the rest of your time to build real world skills. Stop thinking college is a scam its not, if you dont use your brain an only go there to do homework then go home your a fool. College is not some linear path, your supposed to find yourself there, just because you go there with the intent of studying Computer science or something doesnt mean those are all the classes you have to take. You could take art, music theater ect. Most of your learning is going to be done outside the classroom never forget that. You have such a rigid view on what college is because you keep listening to this woke crap. Go in a room by yourself and really think this through, ask yourself "Do i want to take online classes? Do i want to dorm? Do I want to go to community colloge?" and go back to your dad and enroll. If money is really an issue you should be working hard to come up with solutions to bring the cost down. Listen man your 18-19 years old your going to have many brash and dumb decisions, but take these years serious. No matter what anyone tells you 18-26 are the most important years of your life. Most of you character and beliefs for the average person is developed in this part of your life. Dont waste it on some dead end job when you have parents that are willing to help you. Only drop out of college when you have a well thought out plan, the math is done correctly and your opportunity mathes the cost it would have to leave college.

There you go, you got the lesson you needed from this exchange, don't develop a victim mentality and make sure the next girl your interested in knows it.

@Federico del pueblo Don't even bother trying to understand this worldview its so flawed that you won't find any useful perspective from it, its just a coping mechanism men who cant bother to put the effort into getting laid use to help soothe their ego. I think the only lesson Learned from trying to understand blackpill is that some perspectives are not worth exploring as they are such low quality and can lead to you gaslighting yourself. I would only try to understand it from an epistemic perspective to see how another man can even consider this worldview serious but even that has its dangers.

@asifarahim Time+ Repeated exposure + Understanding + Meditation,yoga psychedelics + Healthy lifestyle + Purpose + Supportive friends + Therapy + Creativity + Practicing self love is what heals trauma's not books or videos, those are only used to guide in the right direction

By date do you mean slept with or "just talking" cause that just screams red flags

Ease up on the redpill/blackpill content man people can smell that stuff a mile away, relax go create an interesting life and develop strong character and go see for yourself is getting laid as hard as you make it out to be.

@Javfly33 Go to reddit or some type of forum and look up "how to overcome porn addiction/Buying porn subscriptions," it doesn't seem the advice on this forum is helping you so I would go to people who've actually been in your position and who've overcome it and see what they have to say. Don't lose hope or do anything irrational your not in a good headspace give it a few days/weeks to get yourself togther

@Sagar Gopalani Start off by finding a group of solid guys to go out with who can invite you to events and parties, going the cold approach route is very demanding and wouldn't recommend it to beginners who are jumping into the dating game. Id put the same effort into meeting other guys who can introduce you to other people it makes interactions run smoother. I'd only do cold approach to work on tonality, body-launguage, witty remarks, eye contact social calibration ect, I wouldnt make it my main focus to get a girlfriend with cold approach.

@Valach Just notice the hypocrisy in your your own life, its not something you can conceptually understand, express your feeling to her and have a conversation about it and see it through her perspective. You should be paying attention to her character and her coping mechanisms to daily events and she how she handles them, these are much more important red flags to look out for than her sexual history. Btw expect most modern woman in western countries can have at least 15-25 partners most of them coming from her 20's, woman have many options to explore and want to understand what type of guy is best for them, you would do the same in their shoes so again notice the hyporacy and focus on other important characteristics that can lead to good relationship material. Also be careful of redpill/blackpill brainwashing, those ideologies can subtly influence your perspective on woman.

@InsecureAnon None of this stuff you read of this thread will help you your to lost in Blackpill/Incel ideology. Take some time of girls and go get therapy or deeply reflect your tramas. Be aware of how by consuming shit information and engaging with said community will unconsciously shape your beliefs and trick you into believing its your own original thought when all it is is dogma. Unsubscribe from all incel/black pill/redpill forums, youtube channels or any other medium you follow that shit is garbage and when a person with insecurities comes across like that stuff it only goes down hill. Your facing a much bigger problem than just getting laid you need to reinvent your character it reeks of insecurity and desperation and this is through the internet so in real life it must be worse. Women are social creatures and can pick this up before you speak. You need a wake up call bro, right now you have your youth and freedom to properly explore this avenue of your life don't spend it bitching on some online forum about being average height good luck

Ahh yes cant wait for this thread to get derailed and turn into a gender wars battle only to get shut down on page 15

Yup the number of matches I got using the free version versus paying the subscription was quite substantial. They suppress your profile and give higher priority to those who pay. If you look like a GQ model or really attractive it doesn't matter but for most guys you'll notice a difference if you upgrade. Remember Tinder is a company its here to make money and will optimize itself in the best way to do so. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. What I do know is that they definitely suppress your profile when you use the free version.

Any information on how you came to this conclusion would be interesting to look at. Thats a pretty bold claim your making saing "toxins, chemicals, bad diet" could be the reasons of these disorders other than gentics

@7thLetter I agree with this. Why don't you go out and create an event or fundraiser that can help the people your trying to target. You don't make change by yelling at the government, you make a difference in your community and then people will follow you. You probably sound like these "woke" leftist who just parrot the same ideologies without offering any practical implementation, that can get annoying really quickly. Go create a youtube channel educating your people on finances, spirituality ect, something positive for your community, get creative. The problem with that though is that its much easier posting memes about your government than actually going outside and making a difference in your community. Your ego mind wants to feel like its making a difference without doing any of the work very sneaky..

Online dating works fine for me its a good supplement for meeting more women. Heres a trick that jumped my matches by 5-10x hire a professional photographer to get multiple shots of yourself in different outfits or find a person who can take high quality photos with a real camera, actually pay for the services don't use the free versions there useless, and do a slight photoshop on your pictures. Photoshopping and getting professional pictures was the missing piece that jumped my results online. Be Careful not to go overboard you still want it to be realistic so you don't look like a catfish just rid of the small "imperfections." Its superficial but hey its online dating its cutthroat if you don't reach a certain looks threshold.

@Leo Gura What studies have you looked at to come to this conclusion do you mind linking some of your sources?

Find spots in your area with a lot of foot traffic and go there also for night game you have to be more loud and expressive you cant be as chill and laid back as day game, your not going to get a lot of engagement

You guys derailed tf out this this thread, I never knew how strong the survival bias fallacy was until spending some time on this side of the forum. There isn't a lot of practical information here but from a meta view its fascinating seeing how far people will go to defend their survival bias. From a higher perspective I can now see why people can do the most huranoues things and still go to sleep at night, it just fits their particular survival bias. If I was born a woman i'd probably be bashing PUA and making numerous threads about it like the ladies on this forum trippy...

@StarStruck Do you have social circle, other guys you can talk to about this stuff? Dude doing cold approach pickup as your main source of meeting women is one of the most painful paths to take. The flake rate is ridiculously high considering your entering a stranger's life with no social proof. The only big advantage of doing cold approach is that it quickly builds your social skills and calibration, I would take the skills you learned from cold approach and go create/find a social circle you can be apart of. Don't fall into the trap known as "the lone pick up." You will feel like shit 80% of the time. Its much more fun going out with other guys, and hitting on chicks or even hosting your own events you will stand out more because you have social proof. I personally don't know what your trauma's are but you keep bringing them up as a scapegoat for your actions. If its really that bad you should leave the pua stuff behind and fully dive into healing this part of yourself, any relationship you attempt to build will be corrupted by this and im pretty sure you know this already. Seriously think about from her perspective, you are a random stranger who entered her life, tired to meet up with her multiple times with no avail, and because she may have been going through something or wasn't possibly interested in you anymore you leaked her number. Theres something very wrong here, bro just take a break from all of this and really focus on yourself and then build a social circle.

@electroBeam Rejection is common when trying to attract women in your life, but after you've had a few experiences and approached enough you reframe rejection as "screening out." Most of the time its never something you did wrong its the female, maybe she's taken, has other guys she's talking to or god knows what, never forget that when it comes to dating, women easily have 50-100x more options than you do so their paradigm of thinking is going to be different when interacting with men, they will be more fickle. A good number to keep in mind to "close" 1 out of 10 women that are attracted to you. This is what's considered "advanced game" and from my experience and some of my wings if you reach that number, you'll never have issues attracting women. That means for every 10 phone numbers you get 1 girl will be compatible with you it's a difficult standard to reach and takes a lot of trail and error, but at least this quantifies things and gives you a rough model to compare to. Also understand the difference between cold approach and social circle game. You cant use the same approach for both settings. With cold approach you can be more direct and screen for sexual compatibility harder which gets you quicker results but more flakes, but with the later you need more social calibration and to ease up on the screening, it can be slower but it feels more "natural" which is what I prefer. Be direct in both cases but make sure your socially calibrated based on the setting, which comes from running a lot of volume.

@fopylo This is good you need more experiences like this, this is what builds your social calibration, try to set up another group meeting and do it again. You must be comfortable in these types of situations if you want a good social life it's not going to magically happen. Also meditation and watching Leo's videos has nothing to do with building emotional strength that only comes after putting yourself in an uncomfortable situation repeatedly until you overcome it. Its easy to sit on a comfy chair and do nothing for 20 minutes, but how does that translate to the real world? It seems you lack social experiences and the people you hang around have much more than you do so fix it. Action Action Action, stop the mental masturbation you already know enough.