Gesundheit

It's much simpler than you think. Whatever you think about reality, is already false. Your thoughts are the only limitation you can impose upon reality. If reality can be this way, what could prevent it from being any other way?

@Leo Gura Your views on awakening here sound very materialistic.

I, sure, will. It was nice to not be expected to be a grown-up just for once, and at the same time you did not take away from my dignity when you offered help. That's a rare skill that I keep trying to develop myself. It's by all means nurturing. I already feel reconciliation with myself and others. Thanks ????

The awake can pretend to be sleeping, but it does not work the other way around.

Well, you are telling the truth, so you already have it. And the truth is that you want happiness. How could that be wrong?

I personally hate it when someone tries to paint himself as superior and others as inferior without actually having any substance. In this case, the guy came in here and started making noise and drawing attention to himself. When I came close, I did not see someone trying to offer anything to anyone. All he was doing is just telling everyone here that they are donkeys and that he's a human, and that humans are superior to donkeys. This is problematic for me because it's condescending. If you want to be treated well, treat others well. I did not come here expecting people to be my teachers, although I like to be a student of a peer student, a friend who does not give me arrogant and condescending vibes. In the main site, it says that this is a place for like-minded people. To me, that means I should be expecting peers who are willing to be talking to me at my level, regardless of their or my actual level. Otherwise, it's just condescending and won't be fruitful. So this place becomes useless or just a playground for egomaniacs, which beats its original purpose.

What if the ultimate reality is something else entirely than this "thingness" they told you about? Why are you so sure that realizing existence is the end? It's just the beginning. Do you think that God is not capable of creating such a perfect illusion? An illusion where you think: "That must be it!", but somehow turns out not to be it. You think you beat the game, but the reality is that the game got you beat. Why am I saying this? Because there are questions that are yet to be answered. Once all the questions are answered, I will come up with more skepticism. If I fail to do that, I will doubt my skepticism, not give it up. Either way, I will not let the mind think that it got it figured out. Kinda, but not really. I like to play around with different perspectives to poke around at those who are attached to one particular perspective. And it always pays off.

So, is it one infinity? Or infinite infinities?

Am I supposed to be seeing something here?

It depends on what kind of ego one may have. Basically, what you offered here is a Beige perspective on relationships. Beige is not capable of encompassing animal relationships yet because they're too complex for such a simple ego structure. Once it's evolved into purple/red, animal-like relationships become possible. And from that point on, human relationships become possible. That's why it's called mother nature, because it's the source that everything stems from.

Please show me where you saw that exactly!

@4201 I remember you. You were serious and not at all like this guy.

The guy was not even arguing. He's been on a rationalistic spree for the past day, without trying to understand the other side even for once. Just looping around back and forth in a circle.

?? He had it coming.

"No, you hang up first."

Logically, what's the point in anything?

@mandyjw Bless you

@Keyhole I don't want to sound fake because I don't have the right words to say to you right now. There were many things that I wanted to say to you regarding what you said; I played the replies in my mind last night because I was unable to connect to the internet to tell them to you directly, so now I don't feel like anything I say will sound authentic enough. Basically, I want you to know that I feel very thankful for you, you are non-judgemental and very understanding. Just the fact that people like you exist, was and is curative, and the questions you asked me were very helpful, they reached deeper than the inner child down to the core of my existence. Please take care of yourself. There's not a lot of people like you.

From an idealistic standpoint ??‍♂️ Then why do we always try to escape death but not try to escape sleeping at all? I wouldn't say that.

From a solipsistic standpoint, it all started the moment I became conscious. Therefore, it will all end the moment I die or rather stop being conscious.

Honestly, I don't know. My childhood was pretty fucked up, and my teens, and actually up until now. My life has always been traumatic/violent? Both my parents used to physically, verbally, and psychologically abuse me from a very young age, probably around 5 years old. And then at 12 they had me working with an abusive boss, although only verbally and psychologically, perhaps overworking me counts as physical abuse? I still don't think I've been a child enough. But anyway, at 17 the whole country got into civil war and other political issues. I was very close to death many times. Air strikes and mortar bombs and bombed cars all the time for about 5 years? With many direct violent incidents happening during that time. Once I was alone and got robbed by 3 armed terrorists. Another time I was beaten by an army guy and of course I could not hit back. And there were other incidents that I hadn't even told anyone about. On the other hand, when I was a kid around 8-9 y.o., I used to hit a kid with down syndrome, I still don't understand why. Maybe because he was weak? And also I always wanted my pet rabbit to be more intelligent and that made me want to hurt him because he was stupid but I was a little bit older at that point and I didn't do anything. He died eventually and I buried him in the nearby park and cried. I really don't know. It seems very complex even for me to understand. I even feel that I shared a lot here.

Yeah, you're gonna get banned. Pack your bags.

Pre-trans fallacy; http://www.interchangecounseling.com/blog/somatics-and-the-pre-trans-fallacy/

You're confusing context and content. Enlightenment is not about content/detail. It's about context/big picture.

Thanks for your understanding. You're off the list now It's something I'm working on, actually. I think I'm healing so these thoughts and emotions are surfacing. I've started experiencing these things a couple of months ago, but I still don't know what to make of them.