Gesundheit

Of course, but what is the motive behind manipulating emotions in the first place? Is it logical or emotional?

@Rilles I would read the paper instead. @Carl-Richard We can use the model as an alternative so that new possibilities may open up. For example, we can start contemplating the same questions that we have been already contemplating with SD, and then new fresh insights might come up. We can try to understand why regression happens through this new lens. We can ask more specific questions about certain topics. There are lots of possibilities that come up with each new concept. And it will be beneficial for all of us to use the framework as such. Besides, our minds will naturally stop being limited to SD anymore, so it can be a good tier two practice.

Logic obeys emotions, not the other way around. It's impossible to confine emotions within a set of logical rules.

@Epikur My close friend is literally obsessed about this movie. He thinks it's very deep with the metaphors, and accurate with all of its details. I find it rather simplistic and impractical since the hero represents Jesus, and we've had several Jesuses throughout history without ever succeeding in solving poverty or removing hierarchy.

@bejapuskas Yep. That makes sense. @Leo Gura We can start referring to it through SD by association. For example, we can use The Achiever stage when referring to stage Orange by linking the two concepts together. You said that you want us to separate our understanding of SD from Greuter's, but just to get everyone on board, I think some association here and there won't hurt. I will start applying this myself.

I wasn't really sure where to post this. I decided earlier that I will only use online journals for serious work, and I want to stick to that decision and still be committed. But also, there are a few related thoughts that I have, that don't belong within the serious, nor the casual. So I won't post unnecessary comments on the serious journals, even though they're still relevant to the work I'm doing. So, anyway, I woke up early yesterday, around 5 AM, opened the forum, posted a comment and read some stuff. Then at around 6 I went out to buy bread, I went on foot and practiced walking meditation, with music & headphones on. I returned home at around 7:45, put the bread, and then went out again. At a certain point, I accessed a flow state. Insights started pouring in, even though some of them seemed delusional. Still, I wasn't able to break out of the mind at the time. So I kept walking. There's this new spot that I resonate with, and it's happened twice. So, I'm in a flow state, my body is warm even though it's cold outside (below 0 °C), and I'm hitting a peak point in terms of energy, my body is flowing with energy. I arrive at the perfect time. I stop and sit down on something like a bench, which is my new spot. Then I pull out my phone and run the Wim Hof guided breathing video. I have done this breathing for 4 or 5 times now. But I haven't yet experienced the same results twice. Each time has been different. And sometimes more difficult than others. This last time, it was almost like shamanic breathing, but more intense. I wanted to quit after the second round, but I pulled through the rest, regardless. And man, it was something else. During the breath hold after inhalation, the blood/energy would move to the head/throat, 3rd eye, and crown chakras. At a certain point, my scalp felt activated and I started seeing lights, even though my eyes were closed. I wasn't at my best baseline awareness state, due to being sucked into the mind, so I don't think I've got the full potential of what was there. But still, it is known in brain science that the external layer of the brain (grey matter) is responsible for voluntary actions, so probably the reason why I had such an experience is because I intended earlier to increase my willpower, although I let go of all my intentions before I practice, in order to gain maximum benefit. So far, I'm noticing that the Wim Hof Method, or really any spiritual practice for this matter gives me exactly what I need at the time. And if I'm well aligned with my authentic self, I will gain maximum benefit. So, back to the breathing session, my head was buzzing like crazy, and it felt awesome. It almost felt like Alex Grey's paintings at some point when the energy went up. I'm guessing that's what the psychedelic experience would feel like at mild doses, but I don't know. But again, I wasn't at my best, awareness-wise, so I was distracted and might have missed a lot. I thought I was going to faint, and I wanted to stop, but then I remembered that I need to have faith and go on, so I did. The 3rd round didn't give me similar experiences even though it was the toughest to complete. Perhaps because I've changed my position between each round. Position seems important, as it controls the blood pressure and how it's distributed throughout the body. For example, if I'm sitting with my legs close to the belly, there will be higher blood pressure in head and lower in the belly, because of the high air pressure in the belly, which will help the energy move up. Before I had that head buzzing experience, I was sitting in a lotus position with a bad/curved back posture. Then I heard Wim saying relax and allow the body to do what it needs to do, my back spontaneously got erected and the energy started flowing and I experienced the lights. The session ended, and I stood up and walked away. But my voice was missing lol. I guessed it's cause of the cold air, so didn't give it much thought. Shortly after that, I got it back. And it was enhanced. It was louder and deeper. And that went on for the rest of the day, until I ejaculated later at night. That's how much I can remember and talk effortlessly when I'm not at my best baseline awareness. When I'm too aware, it's hard to form thoughts and memories, even though they still feel vivid in retrospect, regardless. But the ability to articulate them weakens. Thought allows better articulation, but it takes away from the experience, insights, and healing. Or at least, that's how it seems. It seems when people write extensively long trip reports that their baseline awareness is too low and they get distracted by the external events instead of having the full juice of the experiences by just being/experiencing them. Really, it doesn't feel as transformative. Until later. Cheers.

@zeroISinfinity

Whose enlightenment are you testing with this?

I don't know about others, but both quality and quantity are important to me. When I'm horny I want to last forever. I want the longest and best sex possible. When I'm not so horny, it usually takes time for me to get into the mood, but once I'm in the mood I don't want to get out, ever. Until, ooops! I think I'm well integrated between masculine and feminine in this regard.

I find physical work a lot easier than emotional or intellectual. For example, I can work 4 hours non-stop in labor, take a 30 minutes rest, and then work another 4 hours, but I can't study effectively for 15 minutes straight, and overall I can't study for more than 3 hours a day. But people have different inclinations.

Buddhist enlightenment involves deconstruction of knowledge and shifts in awareness. It also provides answers for all the existential questions about reality because it's a path of seeking the absolute truth.

There is no forum and no mind. Nothing matters. Nothing. Or something like that.

@Emerald Sorry to hear that, and glad you got out of it.

@Emerald Yeah, yeah. Intuition, they say. But is it not intuition too that got y'all almost killed? Look, I have no reason to want you to be one way or another. It makes zero difference to me. I simply want to know what attracts women on the deepest levels. And up until this point, all evidence points to the same conclusion, which is strength. Not a single thing says otherwise except your logical explanations, which proved to fail all the tests when the rubber hit the road. I'm just conversing with you here in order to have the most comprehensive perspective/understanding possible. Otherwise, I would simply take what everyone else has said combined with my experience and go on with my life. Strength is the most attractive quality in a man. This is an established fact, and everyone agrees, including yourself. Now, how this strength is manifested and used is different from one man to another, but again, the raw strength is the attractive thing. It's misleading to say that arrogant men are unattractive, because they possess that strength, at least to some degree. For example, if a man is arrogant with everyone except you, you will find that attractive, regardless. So is that man actually arrogant or not? No. To you, he's just a strong, responsible, reliable, loving, and independent man. He's just masculine and good father material. This one, you will perceive as a lion tamer, even though he's perceived as a jerk/lion by other people. And it makes perfect sense, because if he's a jerk/lion, that means he's not gonna seek company outside of yours, which makes him a really good father. Protective and loyal. It's selfishness 101. Not demonizing you or any other woman, though. It's just the nature of humans and all living beings. Now, if he's arrogant with you, you won't probably be attracted to him, unless you have some daddy issues, and I can generally see that in women and agree that it's true. Otherwise, if you're just low consciousness (with no daddy issues), you will probably have conflicting emotions towards him.

@Etherial Cat That doesn't make sense, honestly. I mean, you'd still want a bad boy in bed, wouldn't you? Doesn't that suggest that maybe you're still fundamentally into bad boys, but the traumatic experience(s) are telling you otherwise? In other words, it seems more likely that you'd still go for a bad boy, but due to the pain of the trauma that was caused by one in the past, you're now suppressing your true inclination as a female, and therefore you're having a mind-body reaction due to that trauma.

Okay. But then how do you distinguish between an asshole and a lion tamer? Because they share many similar appearances, such as strong anterior, confidence, autonomy, etc...

@Emerald Honestly, I don't buy it. Or to put it better, I don't think that's how it works. You said in earlier posts that attraction is not a choice, and I agree. But it seems that you're saying a contradicting thing here. It sounds like you're trying to use logic to detach yourself from being attracted to bad boys, just like us men try to rationalize our attraction towards tits to detach from them, when in fact it's still attractive to you, at least on some level, just like tits are attractive to us. I have one more reason to believe that is the case, and that's when you said that a lion tamer is the most attractive. So, the bad boy feature is fundamentally attractive regardless of how you rationalize it. How you respond to this attraction may differ and get better with experience. But that doesn't make it less attractive. In fact, quite the opposite. It proves that it's almost irresistibly sexy that you're left with no choice other than resorting to logic to save you, even though logic is not your favourite route as a female.

Ironically, every woman on here that says bad boys are not attractive turned out to have dated one at some point.

@Leo Gura Nah. I just don't have such limiting beliefs.

@Leo Gura It seems like you're equating high consciousness with neurosis here. I've done bad things consciously, but got good karma in return. Devilry felt right at the time I did those things.

She pointlessly rambled on for 10 minutes and didn't really say anything new. It just turns me off. Maybe I should make a YouTube account and comment that on her video.

This energy! Everything is easier now. I wonder, though, why does God favor some people and not others? Seriously, why? Why do you have to torture yourself like that? Maybe so that you can appreciate yourself more? You big narcissist! Or maybe to show yourself how hard and easy life can be? You big auto-psychopath! I wonder also if the Wim Hoff method has something to do with it. I'll practice it more and see the results and then update. Anyway, I'll call this energy "Grace" from now on, for the ease of communication. I've been trying to quit my addictions for a long time, but it's always been hard, like impossibly hard. Well, not anymore! Some of them have become so easy now that it feels like cheating. Some are still mildly hard, like bad posture, but still there's improvement. Remember when I said that I will leave my strongest addictions to more advanced levels? Turns out that I am capable of handling them right now, or that I may have already arrived at those advanced levels. My strongest addictions, in no particular order, are: 1) Internet, actualized.org forum in specific. 2) Porn & Masturbation. 3) Music. In general, you'd think energy can only be directed towards action, but that's not the case at all with Grace as far as I can tell. If you control it and distribute it properly, it will work well for whatever purposes you want. For example, I moved some of it up to the crown chakra, i.e. to the brain, which enhanced my awareness levels. So now, paradoxically, meditation and surrendering have become easier too. Quantitatively speaking, the levels are still low, and so I'm still at the initial stages. But man, it makes a world of difference! This little much is so powerful. I wonder what's possible with more Grace. As well, it's not centralized anymore like it first started. I mean, it still seems to be radiating from its core at the heart area. But it's now more distributed throughout the body, specifically to the extremities of my limbs, i.e. hands and feet. I feel generally warmer, but not completely warm, still. Now I realize that Grace didn't start as physical energy. It started as tension in the muscles of the chest and belly, which I was able to release through stretching the anterior of my body. Then, somehow, it transmuted into physical energy. How did Grace affect my porn addiction? Well, currently, my kinks are hot body pictures, striptease, and belly dancing. With the help of Grace, I'm experiencing an enhanced awareness of how I'm deceiving myself into being horny. So now sexual transcendence seems like a realistic possibility. When I see them asses shaking and legs moving, it's less enticing now, cuz I am aware of how the raw images have no value in and of themself. It's just my mind interpreting things in a way that creates the illusion of beautiful/sexy judgement. It happens at the speed of light, and Grace has helped me compete with that speed. There's a lot more to this but I'm not interested in articulating it. How did Grace affect my self-esteem? Hmmm, it seems self-esteem and sexual desire are inversely related. The lower your self-esteem, the higher sexual desire you'll have. Within the past couple of weeks, things have been shifting for me in respect of self-image. Integrations at deep levels have been occurring. For example, what other people think about me is now seen for what it is. It's an evolutionary remnant from stage Purple, where you had to fit well and belong to your tribe. You had to be conforming to survive, so you had to invent concern and feeling bad if you were judged or critisized in order to force yourself into conformity. Genius! But not aware enough to realize that earlier. Idiot lol. How did Grace affect my internet addiction? I've noticed that it's getting easier for me to abstain from the forum. And when I become active and participate, I'm noticing that I'm much more detached than I have ever been. I can joke and take things lightly as if there's no self here at all. And while that has been the case sometimes before, it's never been this easy to act properly and say the right things. I'm now capable of dealing with critisism, ridiculing, trolling, abusive behaviour, offensive posts, different opinions, closed-mindedness, stubbornness, stupidity, etc... I'm now capable of handling these things much better. It may have to do with my suddenly increased compassion and the positive outlook I've started projecting onto other people and the world. Regardless, I don't want to be on the forum anymore, cuz I think I've outgrown it, and cuz real life is much more exciting. But the addiction is still real, so. Fun fact: I've got two points spontaneously removed by a moderator. I'm currently waiting for the exams to end so that I can explore the potential of Grace fully. For example, I will start cold approaching girls. And while I can't handle a serious relationship at the time, I will still put myself out there just to challenge my comfort zone. I don't think it'll be hard, but I also have to go through the fear of rejection regardless. I've got girlfriends in the past from social connections, but I have not been rejected before. Not that I knew what attracted them, it was all unconscious. Maybe I was lucky. Anyway, I want to experience attraction consciously. I may add more to this sometime later.

Consciousness is a stupid label. It doesn't represent reality. Don't try to understand reality through the lens of your consciousness, you will never get it this way. Drop the you, which is your consciousness, and then maybe you will realize.