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The problem with this kind of categorization is that it is very black and white. It assumes that the human psyche is not a paradox of two opposing forces but either or. Thanks to Wilber and Graves and the others we know that that's out of date. Modern understanding is more of a spectrum and it's way more accurate and better at solving such problems. No one is a 100% narcissist. At the core of every narcissistic psyche there is deep empathy. That empathy can be revived and brought back to balance with the narcissistic trait through understanding and therapy.
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@Rasheed Thanks! Ditto. I appreciate your open-mindedness.
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The difference is that they would not feel shame or fear of judgement. Regardless of the actual risks, they have little to almost no ego regarding other people's opinions. On the other hand, once a nun goes out naked, she's no longer a nun but a prostitute. A prostitute can have the heart of a nun, but a nun can never have the heart of a prostitute, or maybe she could but then that would make her a hypocrite. Looks are deceiving.
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A prostitute does not fear walking naked in the streets while a nun does. An indicator of ego. I loved when you used to think that things do always go full-circle. The prostitute is the nun and the nun is the prostitute.
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And that is the biggest mistake!!! What everyone should do is to watch all the videos and get familiar with some of the shadow of humanity. But of course nobody wants to examine the shadow. It's always judged and demonized. These negative feelings are what brings us back to reality instead of staying in comfort and building castles of ideals that won't ever work. I have watched two videos so far and I didn't feel anything negative. I would consider that an indicator of how well I embrace my shadow. I almost cried listening to the porn actress and saw pure God in the inbred family but no negative emotions arised at all. I could easily watch the whole channel but then at this point I realize that I don't need that cuz I already have it with me.
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And why not apply the same standard for those who you judge and call "degenerate"?
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Also for everyone beware of the Faulty Generalisation's fallacy: "In logic and reasoning, a faulty generalization, similar to a proof by example in mathematics, is a conclusion made about all or many instances of a phenomenon, that has been reached on the basis of one or a few instances of that phenomenon. It is an example of jumping to conclusions." --Wikipedia Beware with this channel. Just because they interview real-life people doesn't mean everyone in their respective field is the same, neither that what they're saying is true. They're merely expressing their points of view. So be careful.
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@Leo Gura How does high consciousness sex look like? Masturbation to pictures of brunettes?
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@4201 Thanks for the perspective. For me, regardless of the joyfulness of the task, I prefer physical activities. If I had to choose between working in labour for 8 hours a day or studying for 4 hours a day, I would always choose labour work. I don't know why that is. Most people seem intellect-oriented but not me. Although I have my intellectual moments. I enjoy working my body and resting my mind. I don't know why that is.
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A month ago, a friend of mine called and was talking nonsense. He was hallucinating stuff and having delusions. He still does. Initial diagnosis was psychosis, they put him on medications, and left him to be reassessed a while later. How he got here is a bit tragic but basically he stressed himself out so fucking much beyond his comfort zone until he finally broke down. He was having trouble with studying like not being able to do more than a few hours a day. However he tried to break his limits but they ended up breaking him. He broke down one week before the exams and couldn't attend and now he has to wait another year to have another go hopefully when he gets better. My question is how do you know what your limits are? My friend thought that he was just being lazy and that he could have done more so he pushed so hard while being pressured on by his parents. I mean a lot of people do study for several hours a day. I know many who do personally but that still did not excuse my friend. I find myself in a similar situation. I don't find myself able to take so much information in a brief period of time. I had to repeat two times to pass some years, and I can only imagine that if I did the same as my friend I would end up with psychosis as well, but perhaps of a different kind since my personality is a little bit different. Some people think that I'm being lazy but I work well and usually make better results at work than my colleagues. It's only more difficult to me when it comes to studying abstract stuff like most of what universities teach, or really anything highly intellectual. At home I try to study and focus but I get distracted all the time thinking and contemplating all sorts of things including the materials at hand. I get stuck and move very slowly even if I force myself to sit down and read, sometimes I don't even feel like I read some lines. My eyes do read but my mind does not. I believe some of this is practice related but still it's not easy for me to practice studying at all. I put this question in this category cuz I think it fits best here but don't make this a limitation of your insights. Please feel free to share your thoughts. I would like to hear as many perspectives as possible, thanks.
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Thank you!
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Gesundheit replied to Mirko's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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God speaks!
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Easier for you and me, maybe. But not for those who are less fortunate who are born in poor environments without good upbringing or education. You're thinking about this issue from your own pov not from theirs. You have no idea what their life is like. It's like telling an illiterate to take responsibility for not knowing how to read. Well how about teaching them first? The system is the human social hierarchy and it's inclusive to all cultures. Our culture is a variation of that system.
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@Rilles "Ive only had one gf in my life. I wouldnt say im very fortunate at all, but its my responsibilty if I want to attract someone" It's not your responsibility. It's your right. But the system forces you to believe that it's your fault because otherwise you won't have sex at all. I understand your position but I don't share it. I do personal development because it's practical, but I also understand that this is not how things should be ideally. I don't confuse practicality for the ideals. Hence, I'm not a slave to the system, at least on the mental level. "waiting for prostitution to be legal is some weak shit. I dont go around blaming women for it." Don't put words in my mouth. I was explaining why prostitution exists, not advocating it.
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The funny thing is that everyone is currently a slave to the system and don't even realize it. Self-deception at its finest. I am not advocating forcing others to have sex with you but others are forcing you to change so that they allow you to have sex with them. If that's not slavery, I don't know what is. And guess what? Not everyone is as good as changing themselves. Not everyone is good at deceiving others. Have some sympathy for those who are less fortunate. And well, I believe that everyone should get sex. If you believe otherwise, then there's no point in this discussion since we have totally different principles. Also, prostitution is not exclusive to women. Obese, and not so good-looking ladies deserve to have sex as well, hence male prostitutes. Gender typing prostitution to females only is sexist.
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It's not that. Getting sex in the human society requires meeting certain criteria. But not everyone is capable of meeting them. These criteria are ego. Wanting to have sex with certain people, i.e. being selective, is also ego since it involves criteria. The raw sex drive is pure and innocent and should be fulfilled. Otherwise it will manifest in pathological ways. You either realize that or you don’t.
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No. I am imagining a society free of pride, hierarchy, or ego.
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@Rilles I didn't say that prostitution or sex would solve rape or crime entirely. Rape and murder have more than one cause. Lack of sex is merely one cause. And why should anyone go through the process of attracting someone? This is one of society's blindspots. The least attractive don't get to have sex? Why? They're less than others? What an injustice! Everyone should be able to have sex regularly. Or, the most attractive and the ordinary will have to endure the results, which is what happens anyway.
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Did it ever stop existing? In the way that it is a main driver for why people wake up in the morning and go to work. Everyone having sex whenever they need to without much struggle.
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If you can have sex or a regular basis, rape will be a lot less likely. Again, we are not talking about ordinary, well-raised, well-educated people. It's not the same for everyone. But for the ones who would possibly commit rape it could reduce their urges and in a way cure them. It's not free sex. Prostitutes get paid for their work. Think about it from a human's perspective who needs money to survive.
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We are not talking about ordinary, well-raised, well-educated people. I think the reason for this struggle is that you can hardly relate to what that's like. I am not the best at demonstrating these connections but I can see them clearly. Maybe someone else who is more articulate than me can join in and illustrate. Sex is essential, not prostitution. Prostitution is a manifestation of a society that is not fulfilling the sexual need of its individuals efficiently.
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@Rilles Sexual orientation is a different thing. Maybe she likes it rough too. I think that you're approaching this issue merely from an ordinary male's perspective, not an ordinary female's perspective or a male who like being submissive in sex.
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I mean it should make sense to you unless you don't experience sexual urges. It's not physics but simply in the human nature. Well, society has evolved enormously over the past decades. Sex is getting easier and more at reach for a lot more people than before. Plus, porn and sex toys play a certain role in removing the urges even if only partially or temporarily. Observation is the utmost evidence. You have to take into account everything that has changed about our relationship towards sex and how suppressed it was before. It's similar to poverty and theft. The less poor people are the less likely they will steal. Maybe for you it's not an essential need, but for most people it is.