Jacob Morres

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpiralDynamics/comments/ot1kqx/please_do_not_mistake_blue_for_green_just_because/ I found this post interesting and wanted to hear y'all's thoughts @Leo Gura " Green is more rare than we think. Most people, including myself, tend to think green is yellow. When people first start thinking of spiral dynamics they tend to simplify it to: Blue = religion Orange = capitalism Green = The far left/ cancel culture This is a really bad misconception. Cancel culture is a BLUE value. Censorship is a BLUE value. Closing down the conversation is a BLUE value. Just because someone is liberal does not mean they are green. Blue comes in any form of finding the “One true way”. For many this is religion. For MANY others it is politics, “following the science”, socialism, Marxism, ect. The MAIN CORE (!!!!!!!!) value of green is relativism, which is a huge jump from the other stages. Most people think relativism is yellow, because it “can see all the other stages”. That isn’t yellow, it’s green (Yes, green can be “intolerant” of others, but they are not intolerant of people just for having different idealogies. Basically green is not totally unreasonable like blue tends to be) Example: if a stranger walks up to you and picks a fight about wearing a mask, that is not green. That’s blue. Green may push values / post on social media but they don’t pick fights with strangers. “Cancel culture” is alllll blue. Green tends to see things as “products of capitalism” and “products of religion” or “products of a sexist culture” and are usually sympathetic and want to help the other grow and “get to their level of understanding” (in a nice way). Blue is more drawn to tearing others down in effort to virtue signal / develop sense of morality. (cancelling everyone or calling everything a sin) Just thought I’d share my thoughts. I think steortypes were rrly wrong when it comes to green, because people just thought blue had to be conservative Catholics. But blue can have any mindset."

@taotemu that's great to hear i love seeing conflict and resolution in relationships

the book might be helpful to check out - id assume it's comprehensive in its definitions about the stages

Notion I heard is good too

Yeah take it as a grain of salt. It's definietely a bit black and white on what is/isn't attractive. A good amount of it is subjective and if it's hurting your mental health def take a step back and consume some sources that feel better

@Preety_India even if everything you said was true it's still only partial because your label of "evil" Imo, even if true, it means your game/approach needs to be changed on your part It's just a lot of victim mentality

@Preety_India Maybe your approach was bad Sounds like a trauma response to rejection Maybe you can approach initially but then put the ball in his court to do the "hunting"

Shadow work may be useful

Check out leos blog he posted a video relating to this @Leo Gura Right? Didn't watch it but it seems it's the same topic

yeah something like that. i think it's just a lens/method you could probably do the same with different lingo. maybe even using scientific jargon lol

Blessings bro One thing I can say as someone who used to have extreme limiting beliefs with women is that a lot of it has to do with your own skills as a man. Like women will love you and care about you but a lot of my issue personally really made me think that it wasn't possible. I was introduced to pickup in 2013 and that really helped me as I dedicated a lot of my time and energy to pickup. That helped me see through a lot of my struggle. What I can say is to please reconsider because I know there is a way out. I promise you it isn't true and you are fully capable just the way you are. The delusions in your mind need to be seen through bro and I know you can do it. It will take time and different healing modalities and help but I know with effort you will achieve a lot I know also to get some better information too my friend, they've toxified your mind whoever they were. I know you can do this man I believe in you

Self assertion does not mean belligerence or inappropriate aggressiveness; it does not mean pushing to the front of the line or knocking other people over; it does not mean upholding my own rights while being blind or indifferent to everone else's. it simply means the willingness to stand up for myself, to be who I am openly, to treat myself with respect in all human encounters. It means the refusal to fake my person to be liked. - Nathaniel B dude is an inspiration. his book is clear, concise, powerful, practical, theoretical

level of consciousness

yeah - but you alluded it to being a red flag but i was arguing for the fact that it's a gender norm where the guy has to pay for the girl. it's a form of inequality is it not?

You don't like questioning gender norms? in fact, it's probably conscious and wise. it serves women less so it's beneficial in general

@Preety_India sure but then you said financial insecurity - Totally get that you want him to pay

@Preety_India im confused - didn't you say you can pay for all of your bills?

@Preety_India what do u mean by security?

@Preety_India Im pretty sure these gender roles are stage blue Nothing wrong with it ofc

I don't like the idea of paying for girls. I'm not a sugar daddy lol If a girl needs that from me I'm down. But she shouldnt expect it from me.

You can find it yourself by asking that yourself why you do that. Some inner insecurity probably drives it On a side note if the genders were switched this would look really bad lmao

You can definitely make 30 hours/week work if that's what you desire One way is to up the money potential and another way is to reduce the spending To survive pay check to pay check even in manhattan is doable with $20/hr with 40 hours a week. It doesn't suit my needs personally but it's doable. Personally I need more $$ for investments, security and fun But if that's all you desire it's definitely doable I'd just do the math TBH just a suggestion - maybe considering making more versus saving more? It can give you more freedom.

arent they being selfish for not supporting the grind for your dreams because *they want* to see you more calling someone selfish can sometimes be selfish - when it's proclaiming a judgement for not meeting a certain need of yours (which is your thing)

Idk bro A man who is not ruthless to a woman, will receive ruthless from the woman? Hmm. Yes u must have boundaries and assertiveness but if she's ruthless to you, she's not the right girl.