Princess Arabia

Nothing new here. This is the me energy at its core. Can't be any other way. Every me goes through this, which is practically every human. It lives in its own world. Everything appearing is in contrast to it. All it sees are defects and it feels inadequate by default. No matter how many exercises you do, practices you engage in and no matter how hard it tries to overcome these things will fail at it miserably. Tensions may ease for a bit and it may feel less contracted at times, but, by nature, it will always return to its natural tendencies of feeling insecure, lacking, inadequate and defective. The solution to this is to see it for what it is and not judge it and recognize that this is freedom, which is already whole and complete, appearing as such. The more it tries to fix itself, the stronger these feelings linger because they are effects and not causes.

Princess Arabia has left this thread. That's enough. I will unfollow so I don't get notifications.

@Something Funny stick to the OPs request now please and let's not turn this thread into I hate what Princess Arabia has to say about relationships all the time thread. You're always behind my name everytime I speak my mind on relationships rebutting my views and opinions. It will be refreshing to see someone else's healthy opinions for once who doesn't seem to have an unhealthy relationship with women and themselves overall and who doesn't seem to be projecting. Between you and Hojo..the hate is prevalent and obviously coming from a general disdain for women.

Another thing I notice also is its the same people (men), that come at me when I speak on dating and relationships. The same ones. The same ones that keep opposing what I say in this section of the forum. The same ones.

Saying I feel sorry for the poor wife if those are her duties is not a judgement.

No, those aren't judgements. Actually, what you've said to me about me being judgmental is.

Funny thing is, I've seen other men in this thread opposed what OP is proposing, and I'll name names for you to reference if needs be - Michael and Letho, but I see no one going after them and telling them he has a right to his wants, needs and desires, which btw no one is saying he doesn't. As a woman, AGAIN, I'm the one where the criticisms and judgements for speaking my stance is aimed at. One notices these things when they are consistently in these positions and as an observant person I tend to notice these trends.

I'm very far from judgemental. Maybe reactionary in the dating section and I'm only speaking my mind. It comes off as judgemental. As a woman, and I won't keep this up because OP is asking to stick to his inquiries, we tend to be misunderstood and seem overly anything when we speak up because that's considered a masculine trait. I never said anything was wrong on his part. I was merely expressing how I felt about what he said, which is what a forum is for. I never said "You are wrong" or "I am angry", you've taken my words as such. I'm merely speaking my views and if they come off as strong or judgemental, it wasn't intended to be that way only oppositional.

The freedom I speak about all the time. The freedom that is already the case but not for the individual. Not for the person. Impersonal freedom. Freedom to appear as it wants. Freedom is already the case. The individual can never be free because the individual is freedom appearing as that. Freedom appearing as not free can never be free. It can only appear as it appears and cannot become something. It already is. So if there's an individual, it's automatically not free because there just isn't two forms of freedom. Only "existential freedom" appearing as everything. .

I knew it was the reason because there are also other people here debating and carrying on and you didn't ask them to leave. Anyway, thanks for apologizing even though it wasn't direct. I sensed it. I will not be censored without putting up a fight. Sorry, it's not in my nature especially if I know I've done nothing wrong.

It' not a well-balanced conversation and exchange of opinions and ideas if one is going to tell the other why they feel the way they do without insinuating its just a hunch or a feeling. Saying this with such precision that I'm saying what I'm saying only because it benefits me, is imo,.an attempt to influence the conversation in your favor while attempting to tarnish my viewpoint and putting your reasons behind why you may think I take such a stance. It isn't up to you to decipher why it is I feel the way I do but to either see my point for what it is or just disagree and state your opposing points as to why, which is exactly what I did with OP.

You're only asking me to do this simply because I'm a female in opposition to your remarks. Only reason. Only because I'm a female and for no other reason. It's your only means of control at the moment.

Getting angry at and simply stating an opposition are totally different things. Also, I don't see the similarities between the two.

I'm sorry, but unless you can show me where I'm either trolling, being disrespectful, commenting off-topic or being totally unreasonable, you don't have any right asking me to leave a thread just because you have a difference of opinion, especially if I'm not continuously defaming anyone and being respectful in my conversations. This forum doesn't cater to thread starters as owning a thread they can just ask people to exit from simply because they are in opposition to member's opinions.

@something_elseThanks for highlighting my remarks once again. I stick by my words and the point I'm trying to get across..Maybe if you try to see them with an open mind, not through the lens of what you think I'm trying to say, maybe thinking or believing there's malice behind my viewpoints, you might see my points in a different light whether you agree or disagree. One can still disagree with what I'm saying while still understanding where the mindset of such viewpoints originate without thinking they stem from manipulation and control which.is not where my head's at. It stems from what I truly believe to be how healthy relationships are formed and how both.partners can truly express fully the love they both feel for each other and how the masculine/feminine dynamic flourishes. .

Why not when she's married because a man is supposed to take care of his family. Provisions are supposed to be in place for a woman to feel safe and protected in the marriage, yes. It's a man's obligation. That's what men do. That's who they are. They are providers and protectors by nature if they're not rebelling against society and women, or are ignorant to this like you are..it's not about being his job. Does a mother raise her kids with love and kindness because it's her job. No it's instinctual. It's also instinctial for men to protect their territories. He's doing it as protection and not as a job. To make her and his family feel safe and protected. No one said if needs be, and situation arises that other provisions can't be made or things can't be temporarily put in place, and FYI I'm speaking about marriages or at least long-term live-in relationships.

Replace the words post and posting for the words live and living in your heading and post and answer that question.

Funny, he's my celebrity crush. Hehe. I wonder if he'd make me pay the electric bill. Lol

You have put words into my mouth and have totally massacred my stance on this by your own interpretation of what I said. I never used the word despicable and I never said the man pays for everything, nor did I say a woman should never do chores. Also, yes a woman can work and pay her own bills when she lives by herself and is unmarried or is in a roommate situation.

Let's get married. Kidding, but you have explained this perfectly. "When you lay the expectation that a woman should do certain things for you because you do certain things for her, this creates a relationship based on transactionality", is the whole point of this. You explained this how I see it and as if you are viewing the situation from the same lens and perception I am viewing it from.

Triggered is a bit overly harsh. Maybe it sounded that way, but I wasn't triggered. Maybe I was, dunno. I have to check myself on that. Different cultures see things differently and also different mindsets.

Pretty funny. Customer Service Upgrade...haha. I couldn't stop laughing. On point.

Fine. No one is arguing with you about your choices. I don't see a rule book. FYI I won't be sitting on my ass, BTW. Thats not the set up. The set up is I take care of the household while he pays the bills. I either do the chores myself or pay someone to do it but it's not a rule that I the wife must do them. If I get pregnant, bills are still getting paid, if I get sick, bills are still getting paid. If something goes wrong with him God forbid then I take over and bills still get paid from either my savings or his or wherever. Both sides win. See. It's not that complicated.

Cooking and cleaning for your kids isn't, it's a responsibility; for a grown man it is. He can cook his own shit and clean his own shit or hire a maid. Now, if she chooses, then it's ok, all im saying it's not a prerequisite for marriage. Personally, I would cook.for my husband so I'm not saying otherwise but I'm not doing it because it's expected but because I want to. If a man doesn't want to pay the bills that's fine. Get to stepping. It's all a matter of freedom of choices here. No one is forcing anyone. I'm not talking about casual relationships here but serious ones with futures.

Cooking and cleaning are chores, bill paying is not. I am not living with a man under roommate conditions. I cook or clean if I choose, the bills aren't optional. For you it might be "can't have your cake and eat it", for plenty of men, they are happy to have you as a wife without you needing to do their chores and still keep you safe and protected as a woman by taking care of the household. Society has conditioned us into believing a lot of crap. A woman isn't supposed to be a maid to a man, but a man is supposed to provide for and protect his FAMILY. She cooks and cleans if she chooses, bills aren't an option. I'm speaking of marriages or live-ins here.