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I feel sorry for that poor wife if those are her duties. Sounds more like a sex maid. Unfortunately a lot of women don't know any better and have been conditioned into thinking they need to be a maid to be a wife. So demeaning. That's why you have a crush on those European girls because they don't remind you of maids. Unfortunately, they won't fit your bill and you'll have to settle for the one that will suck your ting-a-ling when you come home from a hard day's work and open up the massage parlor for you with dinner served on a platter.

Yes, but it's true that they pretend..it's the nature of the business. The guys who go there knows this, so this makes it true. How can they not deep down know this. How can somebody like you intimately that doesn't even know you. C'mon. Depraved or not.

I get what you're saying and that's a different nightlife situation there in Japan. No doubt it's the case what you're saying, but also what I'm saying. I've had men at a bar with their wives right next to them hitting on me as a working girl to go be with them asking if I had a room. Laughing with their wives next to me and she didn't even know. I've had men calling their wives telling them they love them while setting up a date with someone else. Doesn't sound depraved to me. I've seen judges and lawyers and doctors, all married. These men aren't depraved. I've seen police officers at a cop conventions, these men aren't depraved. I've had men telling me I should go on OF so they can subscribe, those men weren't depraved and were sexually active. You just don't get it. Men fantasize about this shit and most of the older ones aren't in it for anything personal because they're family men, they just want the fantasy of it all.

The adult field is selling a fantasy. What is the definition of fantasy. Please don't expect anything different just because you have mistakenly taken the business how you shouldn't. It is in the definition. It's a lie to begin with on both sides. It's rather silly to look at it as lying and deceitful when thats what the business itself is selling. Do these men really love these women. No.

@RendHeavenWhat you're missing is that guys will pay you to lie in this field. They even have a name for it. Its.called the GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE. They will pay a woman to act as their gf. That's just one aspect. I've personally told guys I'm not comfortable with something and they would up their fee just for me to pretend. THIS BUSINESS MAKES THEIR PROFITS ON DELIBERATE LIES. Meaning the men want these lies. Don't rebut me on this because it's true. They don't want their wives to lie but they want these working girls to. They'll pay you to pretend and lie to them. Not in all instances but what I'm saying is, it's a thing. Lying about poisons in food to unsuspecting consumers us way more detrimental than a working girl pretending to like her client.

Leo promised a course a year ago. Havent seen or heard nothing about it since. Does he fit into this category of broken promises.

"I don't care about you. I hate you and you disgust me. I'm only pretending to care so I can get your money". Really? See how.well that works for business in any field. @RendHeaven

@RendHeavenWhy would a man look to a prostitute for love and care. You say of course she doesn't care and youre not looking for her to care but don't lure you with fake promises. Sounds weak and not putting responsibility on yourself as an adult. Do you know how many men have promised women this and that and lied to them just to get in their pants. Do you know what those women did, they grew up and stopped believing in the lies, took responsibility and started to vet these men and not give in as easily. What do you do. Complain that these workers are lying to you. Food industries lie everyday.about what's in their food. These are adult workers for Christ's sake, leave them alone and go get you a real girl if you don't want them lying to you. Real girls will lie even more but atleast the working girls are upfront with their lies from the get go by you knowing they are working.

@RendHeavenYou will never know the truth unless you've lived this life. I've been dealing with this kind of thing for 20+yrs and i have massive experience with different types of men in all areas in this field and similar fields. I'm not talking out my ass and I myself have been shocked over and over again by the things some of these men like, want and are attracted to. It varies and the adult industry caters to all different types. Most of you guys are talking from speculation and probably how you personally feel about the business. I'm speaking from direct communication, direct interactions, personal stories, friends stories and just overall knowledge of the business and its different levels. OF patrons will be different than strip club patrons who will be different from massage parlor patrons who will differ from escort patrons who differ from internet porn watchers, who may differ from street walker fans to high end hooker fans to.....you name it and everything in between and combined. So whatever I've said, I'm speaking from what I know to be the case and then some. I'm the one dealing with these men you're not, even though there are different types; and of course, I'm only in my small little circle compared to the millions who enjoy these services. A lot also has to also do with age, marital status and if they are single, amongst other things. The adult industry caters to a wide variety of different types of men and what they're looking for. So, yes, I said what I said but all I've said is the case for a certain breed of men and what they are attracted to in the field. OF is just one avenue for them to explore. That said, yes, you will find the delusional men that seek out adult workers for relationships and look to find real love. That's on them and are very few and afar compared to the many that are just looking to fulfill a fantasy they cannot get elsewhere.

Everybody doing this shit.

The body doesn't care about happiness, the mind does. Happiness doesn't care who's happy, it comes and goes as a response. Happiness doesn't have a problem. The one that claims it does.

Lol

Wap, wap, wap, wap, wap......

Lol

If you truly awoke to noself, you would realize there's no one to answer questions for. There's nothing special about you because there's no self in anyone period. Never was. There's no one to guide in this domain.

I see the underlying message in this statement. A lot has been revealed here without actually saying it. Yes, and it's the main reason for the hatred. No responsibility taken on the men's part. Lets blame the women for exploiting our weaknesses and addictions. Enough said.

There are exploitative natures in just about every business. Well advanced businesses, businesses where there are people with masters and bachelor degrees, businesses where the church is involved, businesses where kids are involved, businesses where ethics and morals are a big issue. Look at what we're discussing here, a sex business, and you think it's a big deal. It should be expected. The only answer is to avoid it because THEY ARE EASILY AVOIDABLE. The others aren't because they are a part of everyday life.

Coming from a man who says he uses women for sex by paying for their meal until he gets into their pants, then have them pay their own. OF girls don't exploit men. There may be some workers that do on a personal level, but how is it exploitative when the men are aware it's a business. Beats me.

Ok, that's here and there and stretches along the borderline of just about every business. Crooked lawyers, politicians, evangelists, doctors I mean everywhere. An example of doctor, is prescribing unnecessary prescriptions, hospitals keeping patients longer to get more money from insurance, businesses upsell all the time and rip people off all the time. OF is no exception. What you're describing is everywhere so it's up to the consumers to be vigilant. OF girls can't be expected to be fair in an unfair world and be singled out.

Yes, I believe this is the case also and that's why sometimes I get so upset. They're not seeing how they are showing and revealing how they feel personally and not so much about what's exactly the case. It's like me hating on all lawyers because I had one lawyer that did me wrong. They have problems and issues in the dating world and see these businesses and the females that do it in the same light. Like you said, it's part of the job description. You don't expect for me to love you like that, but only when you're paying for it you do. The women aren't advertising true love, they're fulfilling fantasies and a part of that is to act. Why hate on them for that. Just don't go there. Funny how most guys knows about these services and have so much opinions about them. These services don't advertise on tv, or have billboards. Just like health food stores don't need to advertise, porn doesn't need to either, patrons seek them out and they have lots to say and knows a lot about these businesses. I wonder why. Must be a demand. So, the stats speak for themselves.

I see your point here and am with you 100% here. That's disgusting and shouldn't be allowed. If this is the issue that most men are referring to with the scamming and manipulating I can see how they'd be upset, but if it's just because of the job itself and how they're making their money, and calling it a scam and manipulative, then that's where I have an issue. But what you've said, I totally agree, that shouldn't be the case.

I'm on my phone so I can't quote but I'm responding to your first sentence. It's funny you say that because I used to (awhile back, not now) feel a bit jealous and envious of men. They got to choose their women, get to do the approaching, get to propose, get to cum pretty much at all times while women struggle in this arena, get to do, say and act however they wanted while we had to be lady-like and were judged by how we showed up. How men could cheat and.it was ok while women were blacklisted for it. I mean the list goes on. I was in my 20's then but the pressure of being female weighed very strongly on me. I felt I had to be a certain way while men could just be whatever. As far as having sexual abundance, that never entered my mind because I never felt like just having sex, it was always with whom and the abundance wasn't there because the "with whom" I wanted to have it with, wasn't abundant. This is the biggest mistake men make with this rhetoric, women don't see sexual abundance, we see a lack of sexual choices. A lack of men we truly want to and would enjoy sex with. We're not physical like men are, so we're not drooling over our options we're seeing a lack of being sexually excited. So to say, men are jealous over women's sexual abundance is just utter ignorance on men's part because of how they see women but are not realizing how women see sex on a whole.

Lol. Best comment in this whole thread. Exactly, we all see the world through our own lens. No one's right, no one's wrong, just different perspectives. Would you like butter with that.

This is where claustrophobia comes from. One feels trapped in closed spaces. Real life mimicks Infinity. Claustrophobia also feels scary. I'm somewhat claustrophobic. Not as much as I used to be, but it's still there. Reading your post reminded me of how claustrophobia feels. It used to attack in airplanes. Once they close the doors and you realize there's no escape. You're stuck on the plane till it stops and the doors open. I used to have to prepare myself, like not drinking coffee before a flight or bringing g something to read to distract. The feeling of being trapped is definitely terrifying. One can definitely feel trapped in infinity. It's the worst because there's nothing to escape to or from. This is exactly how the mind feels, that's why it carries on with its shenanigans.