Princess Arabia

There's no one to be more aware or more conscious of anything. That's the dream. The processes and practices aren't really happening so there's no more being aware of what's not actually happening. It's similar to you wanting to change the appearance in the mirror without changing the source of the reflection. No one can alter or change what appears and what appears is nothing being that. This is why it's nothing, can't be touched, altered, changed. Can't touch nothing and can't change appearances. The one doing the process and practices is like nothing being the process and practice and the one not doing the process or practices is nothing being that. Either way it's nothing being that and all are just appearances. The river's appearance of the moon's reflection can be altered by say throwing a rock in the river and the water distorting the appearance, and it can get still again to reflect it's original 'picture', that's still nothing doing/being that disturbance. Can't escape nothing. All the raising of awarenesses and higher consciousness is still nothing being that. It's all empty and also the reflection. Nothing is really happening because nothing is everything. This is why the "no one" term can be so resisted because the someone is the reflection thinking its the real deal. This is not a suggestion to not practice or do anything. No one decides that anyway, this is an explanation of what freedom and liberation is like. It's already done but no one benefits because it's not personal as there's no one to benefit. It's all there is. This is also what saying it's just an appearance means and how everything is perfect and nothing needs fixing. When one starts to look at life as no one and nothing excluded in anything it gets easier to see what's really happening. No one is above any other and everyone wins, even though there's no one to win at anything - just an expression, Doesn't appear like that, but it is the case. Take the observer away and it's all just what's appearing with no labels and distinctions or right or wrong.

Someone here loves you too❤️hehe.

Yes, because of the "here" part. It's the tragedy of humans, thinking we are "here". That here sense. It sucks and breeds suffering and discontentment. It doesn't feel good at times and is always seeking for "there". Can't be helped. Not even so-called enlightenment can help that because there's no one "here" to know the difference and no one here already. Enlightenment is a trap that's why the mind invented chop wood carry water and says enlightened people can still be so and so. It excuses away it's illusory term and finds all sorts of reasoning why and how an enlightened being can still be enlightened and do such and such.

Yes this seems to happen here a lot. Think of a reflection in the water (I love this analogy so I use it a lot). You see the moon's reflection and all that surrounds the moon, maybe clouds and stars and trees, all in the reflection in say the river. That whole entire reflective bubble is reacting to itself, meaning if the moon or the appearance changes the reflection also changes to match that. Exact duplication. The reflection is like the dream. You. So when other move you move, when other thinks you think, when other drink you drink, etc. Just isn't noticeable because of linearity. How the dream abstracts, how it interprets and process. There are times when it will seem to catch up and sync perfectly but that won't appear to happen always. I'll give an example. Recently in the mind, I've been saying a lot "the blind leading the blind". It's an expression that came out of nowhere. Just something I've been saying to myself a lot was even going to write it out in my journal, but didn't - for no reason. All of a sudden I'm reading a comment by @Purpletree and he said "the blind leading the blind". You may have seen it. He even went on to express what it means in Bible terms. My linear mind was catching up to the reflection. Something else recently too, but I forgot because it happens so many times and also in my personal life. It is all happening in the eternal now but the mind only processes it linearly and it seems to be a continuous process - life that is well in actuality it's all at once. Just like the reflection. Think of the moon as nothing and the reflection to be what nothing is being. That's why I say nothing is happening and there's no one. It's all nothing being everything. We're just playing what seems to be catch-up. It's already done and that's why processes and practices are futile in this sense. @theleelajoker

I don't need psychedelics to see the Divine. I see the Divine everywhere, even in cockroaches. A cockroach wouldn't know to run from me if it wasn't Divine intelligence. The dream loves flamboyancy and to see elephants in a wall and bright colors vibrating away. All I need do is look everywhere. Divine intelligence is sitting on a park bench sipping tea. None of that is anyone's doing; it's all Divine, my love, even the psychedelics you've taken that spoilt you into wanting something more. @vibv

Yes, it's just this simple. The mind is what wants it to be flamboyant and extreme with lots of fairytales and fantasies. What dream do you think would want to dream of just walking down the road. It wants to be on the beach sipping margaritas and hot chicks on the side. A dream of a lonely stone on the road is quite boring to the mind/dream. So I agree, but I like simplicity.

Nothing is alive or dead. That's also a distinction. Nothing is polarized. The mind is what's making that distinction also. Aliveness is all there is, so nothing is alive. 'It's alive' suggests something else that's dead.

Precious is a distinction. The Divine has no distinctions. It is all distinctions and no distinction. The mind is capable of grasping distinctions which is what you have done. It is distinction itself. It's not capable of grasping the ungraspable, which is the Divine itself which is nothing. Precious to the Divine suggests separation and that something else isn't precious. The Divine doesn't see anything as precious. It is the seeing and the precious. Infact, it doesn't even see at all. Seeing is happening all on it's own. There is no it to see anything, only appears to.

By saying it's boring. You made the distinction. Nothing seems boring unless you seek excitement. It's automatic. Goes together.

It never ends, only rests. You call it dumb and expect same views and same languages when life's expression is all about variety and seeming differences. The spice of life is what you call dumb because it feels boring to you. You're looking for life to excite you because you're boring all on your own. That's what energy does, it seeks for excitement. How exciting is that. You would be bored stiff if you were nothing too.

There's no one in life going around saying 'there's no one' all day every day or in regular conversations. It just happens to come up in a non-dual conversation that fits the bill then we go back to normal life. Who writes about "there is someone here", only @Someone herewho feels the need to say there's someone here...lol. No one says anything about someone being here, sounds good, not 'there's no one', who wants to hear that, doesn't feel good.

Says the one who started the thread. Jesus, how much more erratic can life be. It wants excitement but creates boredom for itself. Make it make sense. It can't. It's spontaneous and free.

All about "value" and "ifs". These words almost always follow when someone opposes the 'no one' statement. Nothing wrong with it, it shows intent and resistance to what is. If there's no value in saying there's 'no one', why say it. My life is all about value, intent and purpose and I'm trying to make it good. Why spoil that. Yet we wonder why we suffer. We don't want truth, we can't handle truth we want fantasies and to live in self-deception. No self, no deception. Yet we look to gurus to straighten up the mess we've created. All a dream with no one inside.

The man with the pants hanging down off his ass cheeks who loves rap music and drives a mustang or walks in the hood with 3 baby mamas VS the man with a long white beard, a robe and wearing a colorful dress with pants underneath and a red dot between his forehead and sitting in a lotus position on a mat on the floor saying the same exact things (spiritually speaking) and talking about reality and consciousness and the likes......which one would be believed in more and taken more seriously. That's the self-deception we've created in ourselves. Don't fool yourselves. Do you think you can undo the thought that arose when you envisioned both and the belief that came with the vision. We're trying to do the impossible, become something else that isn't. Override what we've created. It's all a dream. Dream of what could be, what can become, dream of next, dream of continuity, dream of hope and what can be. This is why it's called a dream. It isn't based on what is, but what seems to be and what seems to be happening and what might happen. Let's open ourselves up to the cosmos is dream dreaming.

OK. So is this conversation then since it couldn't seem to happen without time. The divine is also being time. There's nothing precious for the divine. It's all the Divine.

How can everything 'happen'. Happen suggests something that is doing something else. Jumping happens because there's a body that jumped. Laughing happens when a body laughs. How does everything happen. Temporary.....i don't even know how anything happens temporarily.😏

"Vision" and "knowing" suggests/implies separation. Which one is it, vision, knowing or no separation. The latter indicates nothing is really happening; hence the dream of knowing is illusory, aka I AM.

Seems....nothing becomes anything. Everything is as it is only appears as becoming. Linear perception of the illusory observer.

.....and also the dream.

Humans are seemingly putting rocks in the river of flowing water. The river is flowing smoothly and we put rocks and pebbles so it disrupts the flowing movement of the river. It's still energy. Energetic. No one is doing that. It is it's own creation and destruction; seemingly so because energy cannot be created or destroyed only apparently. This shit is crazy weird. Infinite. Nothing is stopping anything from happening. It's all done. The effects feel real, though.

Now the human wants to meditate it's way into stopping thought. Humans didn't produce or create thought so how can humans stop thought. It's like suicide. The human is the thought. Suffocating itself. No wonder some experience heart palpitations during certain meditations. You all think this spirituality thing is a joke. It's a shock to the body's natural systems. Spirituality is man-made, an ideology, ideas and concepts. The body is real. The body is not an illusion, you are, the person is; but the body can feel the effects. Lots of spiritual people have gone insane or develop some type of dis-ease.

There is free will alright; but no one has it. That's the difference. That's what I'm saying when I say there's no free will. I mean no one has free will. There's no one to have free will. Matter of fact, there's no will at all, that's a stipulation or a label or a boundary and suggests meaning; there is just simply unconditional freedom. No conditions to be what it is.

Notice how defensive and triggered you get when someone speaks down on another someone who either changed your life for the positive, taught you something of value that you deeply appreciated, respect and admire and sometimes even idolize, etcetc. Always about me. Don't you dare talk bad about that person, they changed MY life, they were of value to ME. I bought an expensive feeling from them. You're attacking MY credibility when you attack them. You're saying I'M a fool for investing in the feelings that person bestowed upon ME. Notice, the person in defense mode or explanation mode as to why that person doesn't deserve the 'bad talk', will more than likely say something that that person 'did for ME', changed in MY life. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Don't give too shits about that person; only what they did for me, me, me, me, me, me. Don't believe me, take notes. Don't believe anything I say, take notes. See it for yourselves. Don't you love to go by direct experience. One will say, what's wrong with that. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The difference is we seek authenticity. There's no such thing when life is just about me, me, me, me, me. Nothing authentic about me, me, me, me, me. Me doesn't even exist.

We say this is duality and there's an opposite to everything. Hot/cold, tall/short, up/down, in/out. What's the opposite of free will and choice? That probably doesn't, to some, have an opposite. It's always free will and choice for the cocky and arrogant human except for when they're suffering and the moment of death or to choose never to sleep again or never take a shit again or to unsee this post or the free will to think differently about this post. Shit just happens. Even the choice to believe in free will just happens. No one chooses to believe or not to believe in free will. Even that isn't of one's free will. Let me see you 'unbelieve' in free will right now on the spot or believe in free will right now on the spot or believe or unbelieve in anything right on the spot. Can't happen because you didn't do it in the first place. Infact, there's not even a person believing in anything. Belief is just simply happening. Hard to compute for the arrogant little bastards who think they're in control of anything, yet we can't even choose to sneeze or not to sneeze ever again.

We will build AI's, phones that can talk back, robots that can do just about everything a human can and humans will still believe there's a person inside these bodies. We will say robots and AI's don't have souls and can't think or have consciousness or have a heart or truly love or whatever beliefs we will come up with why they'll never take the place of humans. That's how arrogant and cocky humans are. What does it even mean to be a human. We've made up all types of stories on what it means. All types of meanings will be said. We don't even know what thoughts are and where they come from and without a mirror we wouldn't even know what the back of our heads and butt holes look like, but we want to claim autonomy and want to be authentic. We can't even stop ourselves from suffering and we cry and whine like babies when things don't go our way, yet we want to claim autonomy and control and have free will. What it means to be human - cocky, arrogant, self-serving, neurotic, narcissistic, vindictive, jealous, hateful, fearful, envious, cowardly, selfish, ungrateful, psychopathic, paranoid, egotistical, and everything in between and also every opposite of every word said. Ever seen a neurotic or a jealous stone. Ever seen a tree being vindictive. Ever felt hate from a rose. Ever seen a mountain acting cowardly. Yes, we have positive traits, but I'm stressing on the negative one's because that's what humans do. We love negativity. I'm being human. All made up, all labels we've put on ourselves, all invented. No such thing as a human. No such thing as anything. It's all energy, whatever that is. It's not a thing but can transform into anything. The human energy is just the most narcissistic, neurotic and most loving of them all; yes, most loving and that's why we exude all those other 'off-loving traits' because those are also expressions of love. Love is the absence of separation and humans are the only species that feels separate and therefore all those traits are a result of that feeling. There's no one inside, just energy transforming.