Princess Arabia

It's mid 30's that Fertility starts to decline, but looks can last way longer.

I dint say they don't. All I'm saying is it's not 25. Its way pass that.

Oh my oh my!! No sense arguing wth this. This here sounds like a projection. This here sounds like how you feel about yourself. A manipulation tactic? Narcissistic God-complex? Such harshness. Princessy vibe? BTW, my name has nothing to do with me thinking I'm a Princess, incase you're wondering, because if that was the case I would've went straight for Goddess and cut out the middle man. This all started when @Startruck asked me what I meant about a particular statement I made about what men realize when they get older. I don't really go around stressing or stating that women are the prize because it is just understood. I never in my personal life stated that to any man nor do I go around thinking I'm the shit. We are both valuable to each other. Maybe it's the way I'm saying it. I know what I'm trying to say but maybe I'm not expressing it so it's well understood. Anyone that personally knows me, knows I'm not like you expressed above and I know I don't. I think I'm just being misunderstood. Both parties are the prize, how's that.

I didn't say you did, but obviously you're wayyy off with these numbers. Even if you're speaking only in terms of having babies. Plenty of women have had babies in their 40's. And if you're only speaking in terms of looks,plenty of women are still hot and gorgeous at 40/50....even higher. So whichever scale you're measuring from it needs to be rewired.

I don't want to be anything. I am what I am. Why are you telling me to speak for myself then telling me you object to my projecting this attitude unto all women. Isn't that you speaking for all women. This is not about having an attitude, it's just a matter of terminology, a terminology that some men cannot handle. I can never use that wording again or that word can be scrapped from the dictionary and things will still remain the same.

I was answering your "why should men choose you over other women" question. Do you mean to say General sense or Absolute sense, because we're not speaking in the Absolute sense at all. If that's the case we can just end the conversation right now, because from the Absolute perspective, there are no sexes, no prize, no vagina, no relative, no anything...just Nirvana, peace, love and oneness...pure bliss. Men are free to choose whatever prize they want to compete for.

Really? This statement alone sounds a bit weird. 15? That's still a kid and 25? Lol Maybe in your neighborhood, they're a bit run down at 25, but not most. And it is a miscommunication.

Listen, I didn't say women are the prize because they have a vagina you did. This is why I kept my mouth shut on my stance on relationships for so long on this forum because I know its male dominated and most of you wouldn't see it the way I do because of whatever reasons. I'm not saying men are not worthy and have no value. I'm also not saying that a woman's worth is only in her vagina/gender/sexuality. To answer your first question, men have choices and preferences, whatever that may be, so that's why he chooses one over the other. Some men are already players and womanizers without seeing women as the prize so they don't need that as an excuse. Women also have ears, hands and feet along with a vagina why are you singling out that particular body part and if it's to name parts that men don't have, why not say boobs or ovaries or fallopian tubes. Men want to have their cake and eat it too. WOMEN ARE THE PRIZE IN RELATIONSHIPS POINT BLANK. PERIOD. Not saying all women know/recognize this, not saying it's because they have a vagina, not saying men are not valuable, not saying women are better than men, not saying both are not equally deserving, I'm not saying or meaning anything negative. It's just the way it is when you look at the dynamics. What I'm saying has nothing to do with women's objectification or sexualization, you're saying that. Your head cannot get around the word "PRIZE". That's what it is. You're misinterpreting me when I say prize. I don't mean it in a superficial way or that women are the shit and men are nothing, that's not what I'm saying. When you look at the man/woman dynamic, a healthy relationship between a man and a woman who are not wounded or scarred will have that kind of trajectory, It can be both rewarding for both the man and the woman to see the relationship in this manner. I won't get into too much of what I'm saying in regards to women being the prize, but I can assure you it's not how you're viewing what you think I'm saying.

Love him too. I remember hearing him say that. I'm subscribed to his YT channel and sometimes listen to his Sunday morning Agape service online.

Ok i guess my use of the phrase "Woke up to God" wasn't appropriate in this case, which is like saying God Realized which most aren't aware of. Glad we cleared that up. BTW, have you ever heard of Dr Michael Beckwith.?

Well, you have to start somewhere and sometimes language gets very tricky in trying to communicate this stuff. There are stages to this and getting away from the old paradigm of a God outside of you, is a real good start if you were indoctrinated as a Christian to believing in the "Sky God". I know what you're saying but it's still a far stretch from what most Christians believed at one time. You went very deep into the Awakening aspect but I was merely touching the tip.

I'm not joking this time and I don't sit around saying to myself I'm the prize, it's just inherent. I need do nothing. It's not just about physical beauty either. Notice you had to say "high quality men", that's like saying "health food". I can tell you're very young and a bit naive when it comes to this topic, which is ok because of your age. A female at 30 is no way past her prime, in fact she's just reaching it and can maintain that well beyond her 40's if she takes care of herself. Prize in this sense is more about worth than looks and not just monetarily. I won't get into that just do some quality research as to why inherently this is the case. The sooner you understand this the better your relationships will be and the happier you'll be in relationships. Don't go following your buddies or Andrew on this issue because you'll get left behind wondering why. It's a particular dynamic that's inherent, not in the sense that you think I'm saying, but when you understand it, and treat women as such, you'll have women gravitating towards you more in a real way other than just your looks.

That women are the Prize. That's why men compete for them and chase them. There are so many signs that indicates this, and men who realize this are the ones that usually win, but most don't get this till they become old and grey or never do. Boo hoo.

Thats when you're young and naive. When men get older, they get hit with the reality of the dating scene and realize the dynamic is different from their younger days.

Anything but that, please. Actually smelling like garlic is even worse even tho I love it in food.

Maybe they explain it in 10secs? But making a girl orgasm in 10 secs.......idk about that....not even me can make myself cum in 10secs, maybe in a competition where the prize is $1mil and then I could just fake it like they do in porn movies unless they have doctors on hand to examine you and test for that and by the time he's done testing to see if I've came for real, I've done made him cum like 10x over that he forgot what he was doing in the 1st place. I need to get off these sexual posts because I get carried away. You can tell who's not gettin' any from their sexual jokes and innuendos. I'm just being silly. I've been so cooped up moaning about my mom that I need to let loose for a bit. Not too much, tho or I'll get in trouble. I'm trying to behave.

Lol, what was this a porn movie?

If you do them together like when you're being satisfied, you're satisfying her at the same time. Also try not to wait till after you've cum to satisfy her. Maybe you have a fetish of some sort different than regular sex that you haven't realized yet, or maybe you're having sex out of boredom. Going down on a woman is one of the most satisfying acts for most men to do, a lot of men, especially Caucasian men, they enjoy doing that to where they can do it for hours. Idk, maybe it's been just with me because down there I smell and taste like roses and beautifully scented edible flowers. Don't mind me i'm kind of whacko.

I was serious about being more conscious and aware without seeming competitive, because I'm trying not to fall into that trap of whose more conscious than who and whose more awake.

No, Church Attending has dramatically dropped because more people have "Woken up to God". What God really is. More people are realizing who they are and what Reality is. Not in the Absolute sense, perse, that takes a lot of introspection and dedication to really unpack, but just the basics. I say, in about 100yrs or so, the Church will be Obsolete. Maybe longer but it will be eventually, if not, it will dramatically change to accommodate more Spiritual teachings like Dr. Michael Beckwith's the CEO of Agape International in California. That's the Church I would love to attend some day. I've seen a few more Pastors changing their style of teaching and being a bit more open to New Age stuff, it's quite shocking.

Lmao. Yeah all the toxic chemicals in the soap. At least his dirt was all natural?. That's funny.

Yes, because we're more conscious and aware. After all, look where we're at. On a Spiritual forum instead of watching "The View " or Jerry Springer or on Tik Tok or better yet, listening to Andrew Tate. Just breaking your balls there, don't go off now.

I'm surprised you've only recently came to the understanding that our belief systems can create our reality, seeing how you're well knowledgeable about Spirituality and the likes. It can work for or against you, that's why it makes no sense to believe things that's not in your favor because you can create that. I'm working on that now. It's hard because the mind tends to see the outside world as being concrete, not realizing it has the power to change it. Even me saying it's hard, will create it being hard. That's how powerful beliefs are.

I think men are the ones that care what their friends and people in general think more than women. That's why most go for looks because of how it makes them look to others. Beautiful women are like "arm candies" and makes them look like "the man". That's OK, nothing wrong with that, but just don't say women are superficial because I've found more men to be superficial because they're always looking at what you're wearing, the size of your boobs and rear end, what your nails look like, your teeth, your hair, everything but your personality in the beginning then when she turns out to be a bitch and self-centered, they complain.

Those questions seem so logical. I understand tho, because most men are logical thinkers. Falling in love isn't logical. Time stops and you feel like one with whomever you're in love with. It feels like the "present moment" we speak about in Spirituality and the oneness that everything is. That's really what it feels like. The Universe is illogical by it's nature, so really, in answer to the OP's question, it is very unlikely but possible for a few. This is why most lesbians (the true ones, not the one's who are only in it because they've been hurt by men) often have long-lasting intense relationships. I know because my sister is a lesbian, my one-time best friend is a lesbian and i have been around a lot of them. The gay men are very promiscuous and their relationships fluctuate frequently. Generalizing, of course there are exceptions. I've also been there, and it feels different from a man. I felt I was being loved for who I am with a woman VS with men I feel lusted after even though a few have genuinely made me feel loved. I have been courted many times, but been in very few relationships, partly because of what I do, and partly from being emotionally unavailable. I've seen too many times how men can be, so I tend to not open up fully to them, not for fear of being hurt or abandoned but very few are deserving of my love because I can love so deeply, and I am very loyal in that respect. When I say deserving, I don't mean it like I'm the shit or i'm all that, but more so because I know my worth and it will take a man deserving of that to open up fully to him. It's not forced, and I don't intentionally hold back, it's just energetic and automatically happens that way, at least that's how I feel about it, but who knows because when you're inside the trap it's hard to see yourself from the outside looking in. I don't like the term "falling in love" anyway because that just implies you have to get back up. I look at things differently now, and I don't go for that "umph" feeling anymore like I used to because that just gets you in trouble emotionally, so I now have switched the tables and am now more logical in my approach, more so than men because I'm analyzing every bit of you to the point where love isn't even a factor. That will come later after the fact and after you've earned it. I've been very closed about my sexuality and dating on here in the past because it's mostly males here and I'm so often misunderstood, and I've been asked in the past and evaded the questions, but now I don't mind opening up a bit more since it really doesn't matter either way. I'm very open anyway, with other things and I'm not afraid of being judged or criticized as that's the main reason why people don't share too many personal things with others. It's not because it's ethical that they don't, it's subconsciously because of not wanting to be openly judged. I've passed that stage and couldn't care less what other's think of me, only what I think of me since I'm the one that has to live with myself.