Princess Arabia

Yes. Experience is an illusion. Requires an experiencer. Experiencer isn't actually there.

I said earlier I was just like everyone else. I'm not claiming anything.

Nothing is real.

This is not a direct knowing. I don't know this. Nobody knows this. It's sensed.

First, there's no such thing as enlightenment because there's no one to become enlightened. All this enlightenment talk is the Absolute talking. "Enlightenmenting". Nothing actually drops, just revealed it never happened. There's no non-dual nature of anything to shine through anything. All is already Absolute, whole and complete. Even the notion that there's a self to drop and that "all shines through it" is Absolute whole and complete. There's nothing that isn't. Can't be where there's no separation. There's nothing to get right and nothing to get wrong. That's only in the dream which isn't really happening anyway. This is total freedom already appearing as.......

Body doesn't born and dies. Body appears to an observer and a dead body also appears to an observer. No observer, it's just what is appearing. Observer abstracts and seems to see a body that's born and a body that dies. That's the illusion. There's just a body that appears and doesn't. A dead body was never alive. It's the Absolute appearing as a dead body timelessly.

Yes, I do sense a sense of self. I'm just like everybody else. Nobody is any different. We project enlightenment and noself unto others. It's not conceptual either. It's quite obvious there's no one in the driver's seat. I do sense that I'm located behind the eyes, but that's also obvious it's just a sense just as I can smell an orange. The smell of an orange isn't conceptual. Same here, the sense of no doer isn't conceptual. It's just not arising over there, but there's no actual over there either.

You're assuming there's a "you" here using anything. Assuming I have a 'field of view'. That all arises with the sense of illusory self. There are no real dimensions.

Yes, and that's the 'tragedy' of this sense of self that's not actually happening already. It's energy chasing it's own tail. It's still 'all there is' doing that, appearing as someone seeking enlightenment, so it doesn't really matter. It's all empty appearances. It's already total and complete.

There is ONLY the Absolute.

I'm already not in the body. There's no outside of me. There's no separation. All you're talking about is from the illusory perspective of a felt person inside a body. Not already happening. There's no merging into anything. All illusory stuff. Not really happening and cannot happen because there's no such thing as space or time.

Cannot transcend what's not actually happening. Transcend suggests a doer and a subject that transcends. One never actually put a self there so one cannot get rid of a self. Can the sense of smell or taste be transcended by someone. No,. It falls away on it's own to reveal there was no one smelling or tasting anything to begin with but no one knew that.

I'm nowhere only seem to be. I sense a self here, but it's illusory. "You already are" suggests boundary, time and space, a position and a center; there's none.

I keep crying realizing there's no one in these bodies. It's like a realization that hits for real. A kind of knowing. It's become quite obvious even though not obvious at all. This forum doesn't help either. In real life it's harder to not be fooled, but the forum makes it obvious. It's not like I can say, I won't talk since there's no one in these bodies, there's no one here either.

The love you speak about here cannot be realized because it's everything. Unconditional love cannot be known.

@SugarcoatIf I asked 100 different people who seek enlightenment what is it, I'd get 100 different answers or close to it. People seek enlightenment and can't give a precise answer, when asked, what it is. Then the one's that say loss of self is even more ridiculous because who would know they're enlightened if there's no self left.

When you seek a lost pocketbook or a lost knife in the kitchen, do you assume what you're looking for. No. You know exactly what you seek. Why assume it here.

@SugarcoatGot you there. You got silent. What is enlightenment.

What is enlightenment?

One of my favs. I have plenty.

No one is or everyone is. Pick one.

The future doesn't exist. Process is an illusion because time is illusory. "Led to Enlightenment?". No such thing.

Life is going to be what it wants. There's no one there to dictate to life how it should be.

You sound like a broken record.

Such human crap. The human seeks; so it seeks to find what it's looking for in stillness. It has put a limitation on what is.