Princess Arabia

Leo doesn't claim to be enlightened, plus all I see is a lovely bald-headed man on a screen talking. Hehe

Hit the nail on the head.....it's all stories. Appearing and disappearing out of nothing. Nothing is the real deal.

....and he will say a different thing now.

Shows how much there's no one to tell since there's no one in these bodies. You're just telling a story to them and vomiting a bunch of concepts and ideas to no one. Liberation will be how it wants to be, even being unscathed by this message and think you're a looney tune. There's no point to tell or not tell. The result of either will be whatever liberation wants to appear as. Doesn't matter either way.

Now, you're the one talking the crazy shit. See we're all crazy. That's what I get.

The crazy shit is what sounds normal. You ain't get it yet. It's sanity when I talk like that. I'll go back to being insane and talk normal then. "How are you doing today, how's work, got laid lately"?

Oh ok. Seems like liberation already as there's no self, no reality other than what the already no self proclaims it to be, I'm gonna always want things to be different even though I realize it's what it is and time already doesn't exist but what the mind has created. Ok, so liberation is a fantasy for the one that doesn't already exist. I exist but only as an I. Where is it, here, where is here, here, when I move that here moves with me so here is everywhere I go so I exist everywhere and if I'm everywhere then how can I be liberated from something or somewhere. That other place that I was, that I called here before, is no longer here now it's there. If I go there then it becomes here. Which one is it. Where am I here or there. Oh I moved so I'm here and there. Where am I getting liberated from, here....wait, no, over there. Let me go back over there where liberation is found....ooops, it's over here. Geesh, keep me enslaved please. Lol don't mind me, I'm trippin on liberation lsd.

Because after they do all that stuff you're talking about, and they do, they need to pray for their sins for fear of going to hell.

Can I ask you what does it mean to be liberated. I honestly don't know. I can't even fathom the idea of me being liberated and liberated from what. Please answer, because I would really love to know what it's like for one to know that it's liberated and also libetated from what.

Realized there's no one to awaken. Look at the answers, they're just normal stuff everyday people are doing. Things are just obvious at this point.

Lol. Shut up, you're dead alive. Hehe

Hmmmmmmmmm

Who will be there to know that, you? Certainly not me.

Electricity and batteries makes electronics come alive, other than that they're just there. Plug a vacuum in it becomes "alive". Was it dead before. Is it alive now when plugged in. Is it neither. It doesn't have a heart and a lung and kidneys, is that the difference. What if you're nothing but energy plugged in and you're neither dead nor alive. Having a heart proves nothing.

I don't know shit. Just because I see other presumed dead bodies,I should now just assume I'll be one of those. No, no. No one knows they're dead, all you think you know is you're alive. What does it feel like being dead. You don't know.

You just said God is alive but didn't say if you were

I've seen bodies and I've seen bodies, not sure if I'm seeing an alive body or just a dead body moving. A corpse is a corpse.

I see alive corpses everyday. Hehe

Physical pain is different. It's felt by the body and can be a result of someone's actions as in a hammer upside the head that you didn't ask for. The body responds to the blow and is felt through sensations. Mental pain, however, is the mind's interpretation of what was said or done. If, for example, someone says something to you that you thought was mean and inconsiderate, it is because you accepted it as true or took it personally. If someone says, 'you're a piece of shit', and you felt hurt by that statement, the person didn't hurt you, you felt hurt. There's a big difference. People cannot make you feel anything, those feelings are generated within the body and it's because of how the mind interpreted the statement that caused that bodily response. One can easily interpret that, or any derogatory statement that was directed towards them, differently. One can say that the person is just having a bad day and ignore it which would then generate a different feeling response. That's just an example and can be extrapolated into any verbal intended insult or statement. Words cannot hurt, it's the interpretation of the words that makes the difference and the relationship one has with the person. If a stranger at the bus stop randomly turned to you and said 'you're a piece of shit', and walked away, you'd think they were insane and laugh at them. Why? Because of the relationship you have with them. None - but impersonal and irrelevant to your own ideas and thoughts about yourself. If you got upset and felt hurt, however, it would be because of your own making and thoughts and ideas about the strangers relationship to you where you might have said that no one should talk to me in that way regardless of who they are. It's all made up and all depends on the relationship you have with yourself. So therefore, no one can mentally hurt you unless you gave it the OK. Your feelings are generated by you, not someone else; so literally you're making yourself feel the hurt. This is not to say you don't feel hurt because of what someone says or does, it's to show that they didn't hurt you, you felt hurt because of the relationship you have with them in the mind. Your mother could have said the same thing, but because in your mind you have a special kind of relationship with your mother so it can feel worse than when a stranger says the same thing. That shows it's not in the words, but the person saying it and how you see yourself and the relationship you have with the person.

When you've come to the realization that you are the world, you'll understand what I'm saying. Until then, try changing the outside world and see how it goes for you. Until you change nothing changes. Ever notice how your perception of a thing or circumstance can change without the thing or circumstance changing. It's because you have changed. Food for thought.

Us both. Infinity can feel hurt. Doesn't take away the validity of the post.

Oh ok. Scary to think that. Also exciting to not know if you died and came back and not know it. That's cool.

Life is an after effect. Your life that is. We are living in history. What happens happens. Any words describing what happened is past history. Any reaction to what happened is reactions to the past. Any response made is responding to history, the past. We can never live in the present moment. There's no such thing. We are not living in the present, we are responding to the past and reacting to the past. A happening cannot be lived or experienced because it would take an outsider for that to happen. By the time one has processed what happened for it to be lived, that's a response. That's what it means to say nothing is happening because to know that something is happening that requires a knower and to be a knower there has to be time and an elapse. By the time one can process that something is happening that moment has already slipped by. We are so deluded and in fairytale land and think we can outsmart this and know anything that we even think there's anything really happening. No it's not. What's happening is us being in a dream of nothing that never really occurred. That's what emptiness and nothing looks like. It looks full because it's full of baloney and tricks. Hehe. Silly me.

Interesting. I see.

The irony.