Princess Arabia

I don't know who you're referring to but my response to him was im starting to recognize this FROM MY OWN INTUITION.

The question I asked on this thread cannot seem to get a response. I've asked this question before months ago, with no response. With all the back and forth with all these fancy terms, intellectual knowledge, articulate verbiage, and not one of you can answer my simple question. All I got was just recognizing your true nature.

You on this forum is a gift. Love that beautiful rose in that beautiful hand. Every time i look at it I see the beauty of God.

You weren't understanding my point, I don't think these people who met in their sixties only went for looks and thinking expiration dates. I'm responding to the guys who think women have expiration dates. Women only have expiration dates when it comes to having babies except in rare occasions in their 60's+. But a man past a certain age without any income, no money, status etc will find it very hard to sustain a relationship much less marriage while a woman pass a certain age don't have to pass those crireria. Think hard about what I'm trying to say in rebuttal to men saying women having expiration dates. Don't just look at the surface of what you think I'm saying. This is not a generalization of just age and people getting hooked in their 60's, im aware of that.

This is what I'm starting to recognize from my own intuition.

I understand that. My question is, is what you guys talk about, and I'm talking about the intellectual aspect of Awakening and the back and forth needed for true Awakening because the less than average guy on the street who probably won't or can't comprehend these kinds of talk is he immune to recognize his true nature only because he wasn't exposed to these teachings and understandings. If it wasn't for the internet I probably wouldn't have recognized my true nature and if it wasn't for my abilities to understand intellectually (not counting self-deception and ignorance to specific aspects), I would have still been in the dark. Seems like the same thing as ignorance of the law doesn't make you immune to getting punished. Not saying we're being punished for not Awakening but if you're not exposed you'll have no clue. Not saying this is the case but it seems Awakening is biased towards a selected few who have access to such knowledge. Or it seems like all this talk is just mental masturbation and there is no such thing as Awakening/Enlightenment because learning to literally walk, eat, talk and do normal human activities needed to navigate the body only comes with physical growth and is normal for babies to learn to do and doesn't need special teachings to do because its innate. I hope you're understanding my question. @Razard86still didn't even respond to my inquiry.

How come it can seem so complicated to understand Awakening/Enlightenment/Spirituality. Often times even the professionals/Scientists/Philosophers/Doctors and those kinds disagree on things and they are intelligent, well-studied, articulate etc, I see even you intellectuals on the forum disagreeing with what Awakening/Enlightenment is, but still in an intelligent/intellectual manner. My question is what happens to the regular folk on the street. Like even homeless, unintelligent, people who didnt go to school, don't have access to internet, or just downright poor. I think you get the drift, Are they able to reach Enlightenment without intellectually understanding it. Can they be aware of their true nature if they aren't exposed to these Truths or teachings. To make this short, it just seems like if certain things aren't available to you, you will be lost in the maize without understanding your true nature.

I have a question for you but ill only ask if you respond to this because I really would like an answer and sometimes you don't respond to some inquiries. So say shoot and ill ask it right away.

Sometimes it's the smart people that can find the simplest tasks the hardest to do. That was the easiest thing for me to figure out. Quoting a specific sentence from someone's original post was the hardest. @Bazooka Jesus.

Thats true but can that sustain a life with a partner. I think people are beautiful regardless, sometimes I speak from an egoic stance, but if I was to really see through all that egoic shit, I can see beauty in all people because I'm aware they are operating from conditioning and I can see the true self underneath.

Except for Enlightenment and Spiritual stuff, what reason is a man working on himself and building a mansion (I'm aware you're just using this as an analogy), and being financially stable, whats the point in having jaccuzzi, bars etc if not to share and especially with a romantic partner and I don't consider that reaping benefits if that's your reason for building it in the first place. It is not human's nature to just want those things for themselves as it's not so much the thing they desire but a feeling that comes with that material thing. It's like a woman saying she won't work on her looks and maintain her figure because if I get in a relationship only the guy is going to reap the benefits and he didn't help me maintain this figure nor did he help in my attractiveness. Or I should rephrase that by saying why should he reap the benefits if he played no role in my maintenance.

It's not that hard for me to read between the lines and to understand what you're saying, so I do understand, but isn't that just only a certain kind of guy who hasn't matured yet and follows these ideologies that certain movements tell him to do. There's a difference between a man that is looking to be of service to a woman and/or his family and works towards that goal so he himself can feel satisfied, happy and fulfilled as a man and to reap the benefits that a loving relationship can provide than a man who doesn't care what a woman needs in a relationship for her to feel in the ways I described above and just acts and says whatever he wants because he just wants to be himself and who likes it like it and who doesn't, doesn't. There's a difference there.

Why is that manipulation because you try to talk to a woman to get to know her and possibly more. I didn't describe using manipulative tactics, just stated his intention. The way you described game sounds to me like how normal people react with each other on a day to day basis. So how is that different from just normal human communication and reactions.

What's horrible is just trying to get your needs met without considering how to get your partners needs met. Relationship shouldn't just be about getting needs met but a sharing of life's experiences together and enjoying each other in the process. Nobody on earth man or woman is ENTITLED to get their sexual needs met, just for the sake of getting their needs met.

Isn't game what guys uses to get with a woman. His verbiage and body language. Not what he has materialistically and not even status but how he communicates to a woman in order to gain her interest.

How can someone's perspective come from the outside. Don't understand that. Why wouldn't a man want to be someone who can offer something in a relationship other than just himself. As far as game, we're not talking about good game or bad game, just game. Isnt that what most men try to do when they approach us, some kind of game. I mean what are you asking me to spot. The good VS the bad?

If game is being used on me, why wouldn't I know what it is. I don't understand your second sentence. After a certain age, men cannot just rely on game to get women as much, not as much as when he was much younger. Even if you still have game after 50+ you will need more than that.

What do you mean by this

That's right, and if she gets mad, in this case, then that's a psychologically imbalanced woman because getting mad at a man for complying with your wishes, whether you meant the "no/stop" or not, went from a fantasy to a whole other level. So, it's always best to stop whether it's a soft or hard no and wait for her gestures to continue, which should come lovingly if she really wants you. In the past, I've had guys ask me if I wanted them to stop without me even saying I wanted them to because that's just the type of guys they were. They sensed I had issues with intercourse where my shit wouldn't accept them easily and would tense up, but I wanted them to and they continued with caution until I finally relaxed enough for penetration. Having no kids, that shit is tight and contracts back to homeostasis (lol) after a while of not having sex. Was that too much info. I get lost in translation sometimes.

What's a hard no vs a soft no. NO! STOP! and no, please stop.... Is there a hard yes vs a soft yes.

Why does he have to push forward if he's not ready. Seems like it's an obligation for men to be always be ready even if they would rather wait. I'm only saying this because you said "faster than you".

It depends in how you feel. Do you think you have exhausted the pick-up scene. Are you ready now to settle down. If you are, I suggest making space energetically for that. Meaning, don't think about having multiple women, don't meet women with the intention of just sleeping with her with hopes of starting a relationship. Either leaving that option open to start with, without sexual intent initially or going out with the intention in mind of finding a serious partner. Intention is the key, but not necessary to initially talk to women. Don't limit it to special places because you might be blocking a potential long-term partner because of your biases to where you might meet her. It can happen anywhere, even though specific places of common interests may be a plus. Open your heart and leave the past behind and start anew and try not to use the past to determine the future if you're trying to change the person you once were and trying to become a new one. While you are out doing normal day-to day activities is best to keep an eye out, instead of going out specifically to try to find a long-term partner. Talk to women and don't rule any out unless you are breaking specific boundaries you have set for yourself. These are just my suggestions.

Me too. I have a watch later list, an important watch list, a watch now list, a watch occasionally list, all types of lists I never watch because there are always other present things to watch. I need to have a 'watch my to watches list". Lol

@Scholarthank you for that detailed explanation. It is what is needed to clear up a lot of confusion. If we can begin to understand this and see it for what it is, suffering would cease to exist, apparently.

It's a figure of speech. You know when you say, "stop the madness" at a joke or say "get out", in response to someone's shocking statement. I didn't mean it literally; that's why I put the "lol" to make you realize I wasn't being literal, just an expression.