Princess Arabia

ok see my other comment to you. You guys are just making it more obvious. What neo advaita frame work, I know nothing about neo...if what I'm saying is neo then I can't help that. Its ok though you can't see how someone doesn't need a teaching to say what they say.

yes it is flawed so stop saying I'm neo adwhatever. I don't ascribe to any teachings. All are flawed as they are all there for someone to learn something and there's no one to learn anything. Flawed only in the sense that there's nothing there to be learnt.

Thats the story. Unconditional love needs no reason or cause to be anything it just is....without conditions.

I won't torture you anymore with the questions but this still doesn't compute.

Lol...I need to patent myself as a neo advaita spokes person and start to collect commission. Just to be clear, I don't know what that is other than hearing people talk about it and are constantly labeling me as such. Its ok, because it makes no difference but I'm just saying. I'm like a kid in a candy store that isn't stuck on anything in particular and certain things just keep falling away from this contracted energy called the "I". Thats all.

There's no role of a non doer or it wouldn't be non doership. How can there be a role for something that's not doing anything in the first place. Shit is just happening to and by no one.

I know how I feel when I see dog shit on the lawn. Is that feeling of disgust to be trusted that dog shit is actually disgusting.

How do you know there's a self. Self awareness implies two, A self and something that's aware of the self. Which one are you because you can't be both.

Saying don't do anything is not non-doership. Trying to change anything is not non-doership. Nothing needs to be different than what it is already. You're trying to turn non-doership into something that it's not.

Tested how, using what,

Fair enough answer.

I asked hojo how he knew all of what he was saying was so and you respond to me asking me why I think I'm here, I'm nihilistic and that ilm filling a void. Make this make sense to me because I don't get how this is related to my question.

How do you know all this, and how do you know it to be truly the case,

You got it. Clues are everywhere, just gotta catch them when they pop up. They will be unexpected and not within a frame of intellectual garbage and mumbo jumbo, but right here in this statement.

Here goes the extraordinary imagination. Absolutely incredible. Lol

This is why I started to question the validity of it all. This right here is just some thoughts put together out of belief systems and all beliefs are false. God is supposed to be love, God is supposed to be everything which should include choices and also ego, because you're saying ego exists to make choices, but God made a choice out of what it isn't and the choice isn't valid because it was made by the ego which is still God. Hmmm

How is the dead suffering.

Anything I tell you will be a story, so keep that in mind. Nothing made sense, it would, then it wouldn't, it would then came along something to contradict. When I say made sense not on the surface, but on a deeper level. If there's no actual time and space how could that be, if we didn't choose to come here, why do we have to go through things to make it right, if someone has no access to these teachings are they doomed, if you say they'll reincarnate until they get it right, made no sense either. If it's all one then who is conscious of what and aware of what, that's not one. Why does everybody suffer, why does it take suffering to come to realizations. How can you use an illusion to recognize non-illusion, If I can't make my heart beat how can I make any other decision, why doesn't anybody make it out alive, why are there so many different pov's about the same thing, why is the sky up there and the ground down there and its never any different but everything changes...i mean all this shit. I listened to a lot of spiritual stuff, no particular type just whatever happened to come my way. I wasn't subscribed to any particular type, guru or anything for around 5yrs, including non-duality. Never took any of it really seriously because of an open mind and didn't want to get locked into anything. Then I got really confused and started to really think it was all bullshit. Not the general stuff but certain specifics, controversial stuff. Then I started to really listen to the nondual stuff again, not by purpose it just happened. The same stuff I've heard before started to register in a whole new way. It all started to make sense of what I wasn't making sense of not (neo advaita), just normal stuff. Then everything started making sense. The no self, the present moment, imagination, the I am, consciousness awareness, I mean EVERYTHING. Life is alive. It's unfolding as we speak. This is it. There's nothing else. It's always been and always will be. There's no way to know anything because it is not known. It is this happening right now. It is my hands, my feet, my tongue, my cat, my house, the road, the trees, this computer, the sky, everything and also nothing. Nothing makes sense, precisely because there's nothing really happening. Only appearing to happen. All these talks and such is just that, talking happening but no one actually talking. There are dumb people, yes, why is that, there are blind people yes, its because Absolutely everything is the Absolute appearing as those dumb people. People who can't speak is no different than those who can, it only appears that way. Nothing makes sense still, that hasn't changed, but what changed is the recognition that there's nothing to make sense, it can't make sense because sense depends on time and someone to make it make sense. Without getting into it, too much, I don't sit around thinking there's no me, there's no self. There's no one to know that. A me knowing is separation and there's no separation. All I do is whatever is happening. There's a response mechanism and no one making a choice. It's just response. If I was saying there's no self, that would be what is happening if I say there is a self same difference. Its only apparent and nothing makes a difference. All of what is being seen an observed is the Absolute. Everything is nothing and nothing is everything. There's an emptiness and a fullness appearing. Nothing is appearing from something else, it's appearing as everything. It's a mystery and no one knows because knowing implies someone to know and since it is everything the knower and the thing known is also it. Unconditional love just means nothing is excluded. There are no reasons or conditions for it to become anything than it already is. It also includes conditional love. It's not one way because of another way. It doesn't need to be one way over the next because it is everything already.

Because those are just words "feel like a self". There's no me that feels like a self. There's not a single person on this planet that doesn't feel like a self. What i'm saying is there's no self and I recognize that. The no self is not a feeling. That feeling is not my doing. There's no me that does anything. The word self is probably where the confusion with the communication lies, so don't take that word literally. When I say there's no me or no self, it's obvious that there's no one in here, obvious that I'm not doing anything and obvious that it's all empty. There's a fullness that seems to be the case but I don't go around thinking all day, there's no me there's no me because who will be saying that. For communication purposes it is what's being said to convey a thought. If one really felt a no me they wouldn't and could even communicate that because saying there's no me is someone saying there's no me. There's no other way to relay the message other than words and thoughts. Those words are just words. I don't need to meditate my way into no me, I don't need to psychedelic my way into a no me. That would be a me thinking I would need to do something to get rid of this me. I came to the recognition that THERE WAS NEVER A ME. If I was to go do some process to try to get rid of something that isn't there, that is still you believing you're a me. Nothing wrong with doing any of those things the same way nothing wrong with not doing them. Nothing wrong with ANYTHING. It's all whole and completeness so nothing is incomplete. The dream is the "I" thought doing its way to a no self. That is utter madness. Ok too. But it just is. How can anything become. There's no time, no space, so what are you becoming.

Nothing needs to die. I don't need to say there's no self because there's already no one saying there's no self. You're missing the fact that EVERYTHING IS THIS. No process needed. I don't need to change my wordings and say I feel no self or I feel a self. What I said is what happened. Taking 5meo would be what happens, not taking it, it what happens. "When you feel no self" is redundant because who is feeling the "no-self". This is not a feeling. Feelings come and go. Sitting in meditation is saying there's someone who needs to meditate. If meditation happens then it happens. There's no one choosing to meditate. This is not a belief, this is not truth. This is just simply this - whatever happens.

There's nothing to have. There's already no self. There's nothing to gain or lose because the Absolute is all there is. I'm not sitting here saying I feel no self. Of course, there's a person here; all I'm saying is there's REALLY no person here. Believing I'm a self or no self will make no difference because that's just the absolute appearing as a self or no self. There's no escaping the Absolute because it's all there is. So all that be careful stuff is just empty words appearing. There's no need to be a no self because that will be a self needing to be a no self. There's already no one so nothing needs to change. Any change is also the Absolute changing. There's no way out., because there's no where to go. ITS ALL ABSOLUTELY ABSOLUTE.

All of that does arise pain and suffering but for no one. It feels real and appears to be your pain and suffering, but it's not yours it's just what's appearing. It will be felt but there's not an actual person feeling it since the feelings aren't personal its also what's arising. It's contracted energy so it will feel real to us but it's not really happening. There are people who cannot feel pain, why is that, we give it a name and say its a rare condition like people who cannot imagine things, I believe its called aphantasia. All of us are the same. Nothing is separate. It's call the Absolute appearing as pain and suffering.

I don't have to keep saying there's no doer because there's already no sayer saying that. The mind trap is thinking there's a mind. It makes no sense because if there's no mind then whose doing the thinking. That's because there's no trap in the first place.

I have just come to the realization that what i've come to realize is called Neo Advaita, however, from the little bit I've seen from those people is that they still recognize a self and their so-called teachings is not what is. It's obvious to me what I'm saying is the case and i cannot see it otherwise. When there's no you in the equation everything falls into place and i mean everything. Not talking about the nuances and meanings and descriptions and fancy terms or concepts or ideologies, just that whatever is appearing is all that is without meaning and everything else is imagination in other words meanings and concepts and ideas, all stories and that there's no person inside this body and that it us just movements appearing as real and that its not about me because there's no individual here only apparently so. I still live my life as though there's a me but some things have fallen away as there's only losses here and nothing to gain but more clarity. If that's Neo whatever you call it then do be it.

Nice story.