Princess Arabia

You just hit the nail on the head right here. Nothing more needs to be said about suffering. I've come to this recognition a while back and it's amazing how short-lived the suffering got and how I realized the mind was doing it. The key is to bring it back to the present and recognize what is happening then. Most times you're just sitting on a couch or washing dishes. Where is the suffering in that. Half the shit i was worried about never even came to pass. Physical pain is a different story.

This is just another discussion and topic. Can't discuss it all at one time. If you'd prefer when I say what I say, I can also add "BUT" to the mix and explain away all you just did. This is why sometimes I see no point in discussing anything on the top level because it always comes back down to the dream/relative/dual level and then the "scare tactic warnings" begin. Don't know about you, but your mind can keep telling itself that it's in a prison. I don't have to engage with those scare tactics that the mind likes to present. I understand this level, but it's all relative and the mind sees it in many different ways since it's just stories and dreams. Mine sees it as just what it is; and whatever appears to happen, happens and I will respond the best I know how to the situation at hand and when I find it going off in lala land about fearful stuff that's not present, I bring it back to the light of awareness in the dream and it just chills. That's it. It's not that complicated and both worlds exist in the same sphere.

NO, I didn't mean you personally. I know you don't judge women; in fact, you're harder on men than you are on women. I was just generalizing.

One would have to be pretty delusional to think it won't hurt or these things wouldn't have an impact. When I speak as I do, I'm not negating these things. If someone were to chop my arm off, I'm not going to go around saying reality isn't real and there's no one here and life's a dream so who cares. Of course not; but that's not what's being discussed. If we're discussing the ultimate nature of things and God and the Absolute etcetc why do we need to sugarcoat it all the time by saying if and if and if. If the truth is that there is no real reality or whatever the case is, then thatls a point, but to keep talking about a starving child and a hungry dog doesn't need to be addressed at the same time.

Yeah, I get it. The reason. Still a personal choice and each person deals with it accordingly. Not for any other person to judge as we're on our own personal journeys.

Hush, that's personal. Lol. Hope it's coming along fine and working out for you.

If you're asking this then what's the point. Would you go to a job interview with smelly and dirty clothes. No. So you enhance your appearance for that and a million other reasons. Enhancing one's appearance is done in many different ways and you do it too for different reasons other than wearing make-up. The fact of even working on one's self is an appearance enhancement. Leo worked on his blog for appearance enhancement, you type words on a screen and try to format it nicely by using paragraphs is an appearance enhancement. Why look at wearing make-up any differently. It's an appearance enhancement just like any other. The bias is within the judgement. That's all.

It's OK. Whenever the rebuttals come, it's usually one of these "ifs" comments or the starving child in Africa or if someone hits you upside the head we'll see about no reality then. Poor excuse and reasonings. Doesn't take away from what's the case. Even when I said there is reality within the dream, you're still saying "we'll see when". Yes the dream seems real but for a discussion like this, I was just pointing to the ultimate. There is no such thing as reality. Thats it. Everything is a story and no one wakes up. The end. Now let's get back to reality.

I don't really mean it in that sense. Every human has some type of insecurity - it's natural because of our nature. EVERYONE. Now Jennifer, I'm sure doesn't need make-up to make up for any lack in that department; I've seen her without make-up and she looks fine. Even if she wasn't insecure about her looks, she would still wear it. You said feel better, and I was just stating that it's not always the case with make-up. That's what I'm addressing - the make-up issue and that alone. A woman can wear make-up and still feel the same as when she had none on. I'm not sure about all that about insecurities is how feminine works and how the masculine is secure. I've met many insecure men. IMO men are more insecure than women but mostly in the dating department. Also career wise if they haven't achieved because they are so competitive and base their worths on their achievements. But that's another topic. I addressed the make-up issue because so many men have the wrong idea about it and why it's worn. Different women for different reasons. The main one is not to feel better about themselves but to appear more attractive if worn properly just like wearing a nice dress or shoes. It's a feminine thing. Would you say a woman wears dresses just to feel better about themselves; no, it's a feminine thing to do and a choice to wear it. Same with the make-up. It's not there to feel better about yourself but to enhance one's appearance just like an accessory can. Unfortunately some women do need it to feel better about themselves but others can feel better just for feeling better's sake when wearing it, but not necessarily because of some type of self-esteem issue.

We are.......in reality..... is dualistic. No such thing, ultimately. There's no we that's in reality. It's just reality and that's even saying too much because there's really no reality other than what appears and appearances aren't real, ultimately. If something appears it can disappears. What remains, just is. Emptiness is not reality. Now for all you naysayers, there is a reality but only within the dream, a dream that's not really happening.

A hangover is usually dehydration. You can still sleep for hrs and wake up with a hangover. You enter into deep sleep automatically after a certain about of time has elapse, unless you keep waking up before the REM stage begins.

I think a right balance here is key; not swaying too much either way.

Well said and I agree.

Make-up has been around for centuries. Most women don't put on make-up for just that reason. Make-up for the feminine is more about an accentuation. To enhance. Accessorize. Like wearing jewelry, to complement. Lots of people do lots of things to feel better about themselves. There's a difference between enhancing one's appearance to lift one's mood or spirits and compensating with something because one doesn't feel good about themselves. Plenty of women who already feel good about themselves wear make-up. What you said is also true, but it's not the sole reason and for most females it's just another accessory and a way to express via art. It can enhance ones features and can make you feel better, sure; but not necessarily because one was lacking in that department initially.

I don't know what i am.

And men are liars.....now what. One woman did this and you make a post saying women are deceptive. How cringe. I've been lied to..... Ok I'll start a thread saying men are liars. How silly. The government is deceptive, lawyers are deceptive, kids are deceptive.....and the opposite is also the case.

Good info.

I've never heard of that. My understanding and education on cilantro, says they remove toxic and heavy metals. Nothing I can say for sure as I've not done any formal studies on such, but I've listened to experts on the matter. That said, the vitamins you've recommended has in the ingredients "cellulose" which is another word for wood pulp and is harmful to the body. Ice-cream and lots of other conventional toxic packaged products on the market and many toxic supplements do have this toxic ingredient and i do not recommend and have also gotten that from the experts. All I've said are only recommendations and have not been approved by the FDA so take cautionary measures as I'm not an expert on such matters.

Tell me something that isn't. It's the knowledge that we attained that made us believe there's a truth to seek. Baby is born - knows nothing - acquires knowledge-I am here, boom separation. That's the start of the seeming ignorance of separation. Truth is here now, that which is the case, what's appearing. Everything else are stories and imagination. Ignorance of truth is a concept. Even if someone's lying that's truth. Truth cannot be escaped. It is what appears, nothing else exists. Knowledge isn't needed for truth. Truth cannot be known only lived. Life is Truth and life is living every ,moment is fresh and new. Thats truth.

Lol Matter of fact, lmao.

There's no freedom for the one that thinks it's free. Freedom also includes caring, not caring, just being, not just being, not giving a fuck, giving a fuck. Freedom includes even the feeling of not feeling free. This is why it's the same as unconditional love/liberation. Being free to feel unliberated and free. This is Absolute. You have just described another form of slavery/mind control/ thoughts trying to be free from thoughts. All there is is freedom.

You're funny. Giving him a reminder there, I see.

Until next week. The control was never there to begin with. Fuck the mind...lol. You've just ignited that flame. Now it's really gonna drive you crazy.

The subconscious mind is what's running the show. It's like a filing cabinet. Like a computer that stores memory, but it's not really memory but programs. It hosts all the things you like, dislike, are drawn and attracted to. It doesn't have the ability to reject anything, it accepts EVERYTHING that is programmed within it. It's different than the logical mind. It's illogical. It's the program that's responsible for all your bodily functions. It doesn't relate to the word "not"; so saying I'm not eating ice-cream anymore is registered as I'm eating ice-cream. This is why we have habits and habits are formed, because of the subconscious. Repetition. It is a program, a program. You are running on a program. This all ties into there's no one there. It has been programmed by friends, family, society, media etc. You are operating from that. It can be changed just as it was installed. Everyone, and I mean everyone is running off of a program, it's just a matter of which program are you running off. You think I'm nuts when i say there's no one there. Here's the proof. This course will be one of the most valuable courses you'll ever take in changing your life. I have seen drastic changes in myself from understanding a teeny bit on how the mind works (I used to preach that stuff on the forum a while back, but not anymore because I was getting too much flack from naysayers). The program wouldn't allow a working girl on a forum to make any changes but most programs will allow for gurus and people of influence as in Leo to. That's just how it was programmed, by school, teachers, society etc to listen to authority figures. I'll stop here but this will be life changing.

There's no reason. It could have been your body, my aunt's body, gotta be some body. It just happened to be this body. Programming and conditioning as far as psychologies and tendencies. It's still all just stories.