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I'm saying after the initial Rolex wears off, they'll need something else. After meditating and the peaceful feeling comes, more meditating is needed after that peace wears off. It takes consistent buying of stuff and consuming to maintain that feeling and it takes consistent spiritual practices to maintain that feeling. I don't see anyone meditating one time and say they are in constant peace and fullfilment. I see a lot on here still miserable even though they do spiritual practices. IT doesn't matter what one does, it seems it needs to be constantly done to maintain itself and material or spiritual it's still a feeling being sought after even though spiritually speaking the feeling may last longer or is more in depth. You're not going to give up your practices tomorrow and say I'm alright now I've gained all I needed to gain and the consumer isn't stopping buying stuff because they are content. Both takes consistency and pretty much till you die. The person doing either just for the pleasure of doing them and not because they're looking to get something in return is the one, to me, who is indifferent and who knows how to enjoy life without getting anything from life back. When you're doing either for a gain there's no difference only in the content and maybe to satisfy the ego's desire for a better feeling and the spiritual seeker will believe they are being more productive but they still need to continue those practices till they die because if they were to stop that ego will lose the grip it thinks It has on it's well-being and the reason it's doing those practices. When Spiritual practices are done merely for the joy of doing them, then that's no match for materialistic consuming. That's the difference to me. That's all I'm saying. I love Spirituality and I will not give it up for anything. I just love it for it's own sake.

Ok Gotcha.

Not fair.....that doesn't count...boo boo.

huh? You lost me here.

Everyone breathes?

Yup. All you said. That's the fucking illusion. The person that agrees is the illusion, the person that doesn't agree is the illusion. The meaning of these words is the illusion. The one that thinks life is happening to it, is the illusion, I mean it runs deep. What appears is not the illusion and is just arising from no-thing and gets interpreted.

Nothing because it's illusory. The need for desire stems from separation which is illusory. It cannot be helped.

I understand all this. You have missed the point of the post and simultaneously made it. The difference is the type of feeling. Still a feeling being sought after. Also by telling me my spiritual practice is wrong if I believed a certain thing. Showing how arrogant Spiritual beings can get and thinking their way is the right way and how others' are wrong. You have said how you've felt after sex, watches materialistic gains etc, doesnt mean someone else doesn't feel intense peace after sex or satisfaction after getting a Rolex.. Both has to be maintained to sustain those feelings.

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That's not what I said. I'm not in the mood for Spiritual crap today. Happiness is already here no need to seek it, just take away the shit that's veiling it and it will reveal itself to you. That's what I'm referring to. It's all here right now. We are human generators and just need to know how to allow for the energy to flow through. Nothing is stopping you but your own mind and maybe if you take Leo's course you'll learn how. Plus it's only the mind that seeks happiness the body is perfectly fine just functioning and producing.

@CARDOZZOgets the award for abiding by rules. He'd make a great mod you' all. Only problem, people would be getting warnings from left to right and nobody will be left. Haha

I didn't even see the last two yet when I made that comment. Then I saw them coming. Ok you can give any amount you like. Lol

You're funny. I see you're trying to abide by the rules and give one (1) per response, but replying like 10x. Love it.

My fav so far.

Yeah,

Sad, but true.

Ooooh!! Love the Twilight Zone. Will save for later. The other stuff you said isn't really how it is, but we'll leave it at that.

Ok. I would only say All Life Is It. Just a difference in words, that's all; but it still conveys a slightly different meaning. We're basically saying the same thing other than I don't say we have it but it is us.

What every seeker is actually seeking is, ironically, the END OF SEEKING.

This is what you think. It seems to be this on the surface, but is this really what's being sought. Happiness is already here.

Spiritual gain is never enough either. Aren't you still seeking or searching or practicing. The fact that you even said "paid you back", makes it sound like an investment. Nothing wrong with that; but that's just the point of my post . There's no or little difference but only in the contents.

This is where I differ, but we won't get into it. Plus I don't believe humans have that intelligence you're speaking of, I would say it's that intelligence that's appearing as a human. I agree humans are more advanced than......say insects but it is yet to be seen if there are other species out there that are way more advanced than humans. Overall, I see your point and I often times do think about the birthing process and marvel at how it's done. Imagined or not.

For sure. This teaches me personally to not draw too many conclusions about things and to have a more open mind. Lots of surprises here.

No, that was my quote. Read the OP again.