Princess Arabia

You're not responsible for how someone feels. It's impossible. You can only feel responsible, but you are not physically responsible. You cannot go inside someone's mind to activate the feeling response. They are doing it themselves, or I should say the body's response mechanism is responsible for this. It is a very sophisticated process that not even the feeler can control if they aren't mindful. It's a process. Thought is prior to feeling. Can you control WHAT a person thinks? No. How a person feels will depend on the thought that proceeded. You are putting too much responsibility on yourself for how things turn out. Your job is to be conscious of how you respond to how things turn out. Yes, we can strategize, but your strategies can only go so far when dealing with another person, especially if you don't know them well because people are always RESPONDING to, not responding because of.

Be careful here, sometimes we just want somebody back to make things right within ourselves. To rewrite the story and then move on. Don't fall into that trap. Saying "it might have been ALL your responsibility" and "IF you just acted a little different', is an indication of this mindset. No, everything worked perfectly to reveal to you whatever it did. There's no if you had acted this way or that way. If, is not Reality. You were both responsible. Takes two to tango. Guilt is very destructive.

If it worked well, where are they now. Well, the last one, since the first one didn't work too well, hence the second one. I don't know if people break up because things are going well. You don't have to answer, since my question is rhetoric and I don't want to pry into your affairs.

Thats what I'm saying. I AM Consciousness that mentally separated myself into thinking I'm just a human. The illusion. You're basically saying the same thing I'm saying. It's just you're seeing Consciousness as a separate entity by saying 'it" and "you". I am both. I separated myself from myself. I am the "it" and the "you" you are referring to.

Great post. I bookmarked for reference and understanding because I think this is the root cause of all the issues the sexes are experiencing in respect to the power struggles and confusion between the sexes. This post is like the answer to the one i created as to why this is happening and the need to get to the root issues and to try and understand the sexes instead of demonizing them when it comes to relationships. You dug deep; and in regards to the masculine and feminine side of things, if we understood these polarities more on an existential level we could at best understand why we have our own issues with the opposite sex and to better understand our own behaviors. Thank you for this.

@Understander @ConseptGreat points, but those are on surface levels. The effects. The after effects. She's explaining why those things arise in the first place, and like she said, which leads to more this and which leads to more that in her 3rd to last paragraph. The cycle that lead up to all you both are discussing. Most generations usually experience effects of the previous generations that preceded the current one. When we see certain trends in society, it's because it was being birthed from generations before and now has been born and manifested for the current one to physically experience. Anything we're doing now within our generation to see changes with, won't be visible for generations to come. This, of course, depends on variables and some will be revealed earlier than some. Each generation creates history not the present, linearly. IOW, what we're experiencing now is what was being formed generations ago, and generations to come will experience what we're birthing now. I predict things getting better in the future as there has been more Awareness on issues spread through the birthing of social media and what we're currently experiencing is the SHIFT towards that betterment.

She went below this surface. You're speaking from a societal pov, she speaks from an existential pov.

If you notice I said your relationship to that identity. You will not suffer if you don't identify with the identity. Meaning, you will see the negative and positive for what they are and not suffer with the negative nor get attached to the positive. You'll be able to see life for what it is. Both the apparent negative and the apparent positive, because they are both only appearances. Appearing from the one Source, which is your true nature, which just is void of all appearances.

If younotice Ok, everything temporary is within Consciousness. That's it. The only thing that matters is if you want to have a joyful experience or one filled with suffering. Your choice, and what will determine that is what you identify as and your relationship to that identity.

Ok, everything temporary is within Consciousness. That's it. The only thing that matters is if you want to have a joyful experience or one filled with suffering. Your choice, and what will determine that is what you identify as and your relationship to that identity.

Everything is temporary. Name one thing that's permanent except for impermanence. One.

You will suffer from something else if you don't confront the root cause of why you suffered to begin with. That was just a symptom. The mind's delusion. "It doesn't matter", you say, but what does matter is you're not conscious of your attachments. She's gone but it will be something else. Contents doesn't matter. She was only a passing band-aid. Now the band-aid is off waiting for you to put another one on because you are still trying to heal the wounds. Wounds that aren't there. So you will forever be band-aiding yourself through life trying to find relief from the mental torture of the mind. Solution: See yourself as whole and complete and also see yourself as not whole and complete. Recognize the duality and live your life with the recognition that the egoic mind seeks to ground itself and it tries to latch on to "things". See it for what it is. Observe it but don't identify with it. Detach from outcomes and embrace the impermanence of life because you are that which all of life's impermanence emerges.

Yes, I understand that. But what are the mechanics of suffering. How did it come about to begin with, not why we suffer. Only @Bazooka Jesuscame close to explaining this. The mechanics of it. I still believe it's the mechanics of the belief in separation. When Consciousness separated itself from itself. Mentally. That's why it's in the mind because it originated in the mind. Birth is separation and death is reunion. A severed hand suffers, put it back together it begins the healing process. Mentally separating ourselves from ourselves we suffer. Unity is wholeness, hence no suffering. We're all trying different band-aids to heal the separation. Through all our desires in life, you name it. It's all an attempt to heal this severance. We just are not putting on the right band-aids which is to recognize ourselves as Source and to live from that place, no matter what.

Ok, whatever you say, my friend. The truth needs no defense. I will say this, though. I have suffered enough. I have made a conscious decision to not let the mind drag me into it's delusion of suffering anymore. I used to suffer, this was before Spirituality found me; before Source revealed itself to me. Now, I only get sad from time to time, but I don't allow the mind to keep me there. It doesn't last long. I rise above it quickly. When I see the power I have to do that, I keep doing it more and more and more. I also try to show people how to do this in my personal life and they are also seeing results. They have told me this. I am a curious being. Too curious sometimes. I want to know about Reality. I am in love with Reality, so naturally I want to know about it's nature and all the intricacies. I find it fascinating. Even suffering. Even happiness. All of it. As much as impossibly can. It's intriguing to me. Everyday I wake up and open my eyes, it feels weird that I was knocked out for a few hrs and here i am again, with the mind blabbering. I pay attention to that, I pay attention to every thought, emotion and feeling. I don't take them for granted. I have become an investigator. There's nothing else to do but to try and survive. Even that intrigues me. Why am I surviving just to die. All if it even suffering, that's why I ask. Only out of curiosity. My suffering now is miniscule. I observe it. I see it for what it is. I empathize with sufferers. I want to help them, but that's only so I don't have to suffer from seeing them suffer. It's still a selfish act. I'm aware of that. I'm learning to let go of the need to help others with their suffering. They need it. Just like I needed mine to get to this point. There lies my biography.

Why? Survival and fear. We see sex as survival. Having our needs met. "You're a threat to that", each says. "What we don't understand we fear. What we fear, we judge as evil. What we judge as evil, we attempt to control; and what we cannot control, we attack". - Unknown Our best defense is knowledge. - Tuvok We don't understand each other. Instead of attacking, why not try to understand. Not just about the sexes, but why there is fear present. Is it vulnerability. Loss of control. Do men feel a loss of control and do women feel vulnerable. Investigate these feelings. This requires self-awareness, evaluating our motives and agendas. Of course, most won't do this or even see it as essential or necessary to combat this issue. "I just want my needs met and you are getting in the way of that. I have no control over what you say or do, and I feel threatened by this so I'm going to retaliate and show you where you're wrong and i'm right". Now, the battle begins. This doesn't just starts and ends on an individual basis; now all men are this and all women are that - no exceptions. All are categorized and lumped into the same bag. The veil is on and the perceptions gets skewed in all cases - unless we become emotionally intelligent enough to see through the veil of perception. To see through our fears and survival mechanisms. But first we have to care. We have to want to understand. The more selfish one is, the less they will care to and will also blame the other sex for this and "invent" reasons why they shouldn't or need not care. It's your fault, why should I change for you, each will say. Then we join and form groups to join in with the battle. Yeah, this pill and that pill and this ism and that ism and we call them "ists" as in feminist and narcissists, and somewhere in between. Men will get angry at all women because one rejected them and women will call all men cheaters if they got cheated on. All these negative traits we label unto both sexes and then we look for reasons to see them as true without investigating why we believe it to be true. Believing is seeing. That is how Reality works, not the other way around. So maybe we can start to get an understanding of why we war amongst each other so much and to see if it is just our own fears and insecurities we are fighting against and to understand that we are projecting those fears and insecurities unto the opposite sex and how can we change the way we see them with awareness. We cannot say everything is Consciousness but fail to consciously see everything.

Nice. The illusion is deep. May I ask, can you ever die in your dream. You know, when you dream at night. I never do; always wake up when I was about to be shot or something like that.

I understand that. I don't just go with whatever I'm told. Thanks for the wise advice. I will say thank you and then contemplate it for myself by going within and using my experiences to validate.

Nice perspective. You are seeing beyond the seen. Things have to be shifted before we can clean up house; but it starts from within.

Ok fine, let it all out. That's a start. Believe it or not, that's healing. You brought it out from the dark into the light. Now they have been exposed. Those energies. They cannot hide within you anymore. All they need now is to be shown some love. They are seeking attention. They are fearful. They know they are distorted and they seek to rectify themselves and be transformed. But only Awareness can do that. Becoming aware of how they were formed in the first placed and latched unto your being. Only Love exists. They are a distorted form of love. Your emotions and feelings are guiding you towards the light. They are telling you you are moving in the wrong direction. Allow those feelings to be there and see them for what they are, distortions. It is up to you now to see them as distorted and to remove the veil of distortion and let your true being emerge. The one that's not fearful and distorted, The one that is witnessing the fear and distortion. It is seeking to emerge from behind all the distortion and to reveal itself to you. Stay in that state and when the bubble pops, you will have no choice but to clear the distortions away. That, my friend is what's called suffering.

Nothing in my post implied I was looking to not suffer. Please drop that fantasy and see my post for what it is. Show me where I said I was suffering and wanted to stop.

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I don't want to get into it with you, but I just want to say this. Forgive yourself for what you have done. Stop the self-shame and blame. It can destroy you. This is why you judge others, it's because you judge yourself. I'm not surprised you said this. It was obvious to me that something was lurking in the background. We've all been there including myself. The hoponopono prayer really helps with this. It helps to heal. Look it up to understand how it works. It's just 4 phrases you repeat to yourself " I'm sorry, please forgive me, I love you, thank you". It's a very powerful prayer. It's very important to forgive yourself or you will project unto the world your pain and eventually causes low-self esteem and extreme insecurities and low-self worth. You know the other day when we had that little spat, I did hit the ignore button, but I removed it; why, because I was sending a message to the Universe that I was ignoring it's messages to me. It is using you to point out my weaknesses and my shadows, I finally became aware of that, aware how it's using you to help to heal. I'm always fighting with you and i went into self-introspection and it made me realize some things about myself. You see, everything and everyone i come into contact with is put there as no accident because you are me and I am you. Your energy clashes with mine, even through the computer, all the time and i realized why. I won't get into that, bug it revealed things to me that I wasn't consciously aware of. It takes for me to forgive myself and also you to heal or bring it to the light. I recognized the importance of your character in respect to mine and they clash for a reason. So please look into why you feel that way about yourself because it is not true, it's only your ideas and stories around what you did, no matter how wrong you feel it was that you're feeling. It's not who you are. You don't have to judge these people in the video, just watch them if you feel like it, and leave it at that. There's a higher being at play here and everything fits in perfectly. The mind won't understand it, but it is the case on an existential level.

Our ideas about Reality are illusions.

Interesting. Lucid dreaming, maybe.

I understand that. I'm going deeper, look at my comment to @Bazooka Jesussee if you can see through what I'm really saying.