Princess Arabia

That's what Spirituality and psychedelics does to you. Yin and yang, baby. Just kidding.

This is what some form of knowledge does to people's minds. Comparison. Now we believe we're better than some, and have a higher consciousness level and others are stupid and practice stupid behaviors because their level of consciousness is lower. Now there's an inner conflict going on when we engage in worldly affairs. If we're meditating all day, practicing yoga and reading endless books about Spirituality and engaging with so-called highly conscious people we're better than those who aren't. Those foods are addictive and most people don't understand this and they keep indulging because it tastes good and the brain's chemistry is changing and all that jazz. It is best to not label activities as low or high consciousness because that is just further creating more division in the mind. I would suggests you just say, that's not for me and leave it at that, or i'd love to try that to see if I like it. You're driving yourself crazy and now you're observing things about yourself and judging yourself because of it. Those people in the Universities you're talking about are enjoying their painful life because that's what pleasure eventually leads to while you're also indulging in the activity of analyzing them and creating for yourself a painful experience by making comparisons, judging and critiquing them and yourself. It's a fucking loop. Leave things be, do what comes naturally to you, seek help with something you feel you need help with, watch your videos and educate yourself but try not to start playing detective because the mind will not leave you be and will torment you because it loves to engage in things that perpetuates the cycle to keep it's never-ending cycle going. At least try to focus on what you like to do and engage in that because you don't have to go looking for pain it will find you so why engaging in useless activities like watching what others are engaging in and labelling it low or high conscious. People will come around when they're ready and fire is an element at play on an energetic level at all times burning away what's not needed for the balance of unity and your mind and thoughts have nothing to do with that.

No, but thanks for the suggestion. I'm not that much into playing all sorts of games. At the moment i'm only playing one main game and it's enough. It's a girly game of decorating your own islands with beautifications within the game, playing competitions with other players across the globe and lots of goodies and side games within the game all for free unless you make purchases which isn't necessary to fully play the game; just takes longer to complete sets. It's fun and I've made purchases before which is through Google pay, but its pay as you go and no subs. Any other game I would play would be with my nerdy self, scrabble, bookworm, word twist and games like that which are tons online and for free. Love bookworm. I even used to compete online in scrabble tournaments. Hehe. What kind of games you like?

I will just leave this right here. This is a good one from him. It's 30mins long, so watch at your leisure. I just watched it. I won't post any more videos here, just wanted to give you a sample from him. If you resonate, you resonate. I'll pop in from time to time. Enjoy your writings. Any questions just ask.

@Someone hereI'm loving listening to U G Krishnamurti right now. He speaks with a lot of wisdom. About life, thoughts, the body, existence itself etc. Very different from the regular Spiritual "teachings", we've been accustomed to. A lot of what he says, I agree with. Resonate with just like how I resonate with Jim Newman. I don't just go along with everything, I use my own judgement or whatever you call it and discernment. I try to understand what he's saying not just hear. Try him out, you might like his messages. I don't know about the normal meditation practices. The one where you sit and try to eliminate thoughts. I don't think it does anything but confuse the brain and creates all sorts of conflicts within the body. He speaks about that too, also yoga practices. It's up to you; but I find his reasoning to be of merit when I look at the bigger picture. So much stuff we've been taught in Spirituality is bull. Not all, but some. I've heard a lot; and now it's time to think for myself, if there's even such a thing. So many contradictions, so many isms and skisms. I'm not afraid to do so and run into the possibility of deluding myself or anything of the sort. I've already recognized that you can't go wrong in the "end". I enjoy this stuff and that's why I engage with it. I'm learning how to mix the two, (Spirituality and "Real Life), it's impossible to separate the two because they are one of the same. I hope you manage to accomplish or turn around what it is you're doing. Congrats to you to even have gotten to this point. I saw it coming, anyway. Anyway, I'll be reading your journal; and if I see anything i can add or suggests, I'll be glad to - same goes for you with mine. Much love.

The reason I believe why most of us don't really know who we are or what we're doing here is because there's really no answers to that. There's no who and there are no why's. So, we make shit up. We are consciousness and consciousness is exploring itself. God is us and God is experiencing what it's like to be a human, a cat, a tree and a dog. Makes sense. We accept that. Then we believe what we experience is Truth. Experiences involve the senses. Sight, sound, taste, touch and..... I forgot the other. Then there is qualia to describe the senses. I believe that's what qualia represents. How can experience be conclusive, accurately perceived when some of us don't possess all the senses. There are the blind. If they can't see a tree, then they have to depend on someone's description of what a tree looks like. How unfortunate. Same with the deaf. They can't even hear the description without the aid of an equipment called a hearing aid. An aide that was designed by other humans. God wasn't efficient enough to provide all individuals with the sense of hearing and left them to fend for themselves and figure it out. How unfortunate. Maybe, just maybe, we're really not hearing anything at all. Hearing is just happening and for or by no one. Even if that's not the case, and we are actually hearing and the ears' function is to hear; maybe what it hears isn't important. Just gibberish, gibberish that's interpreted by the intellect. A baby isn't born with intellect; that's developed. If that baby were to live in a forest with no one around for it's entire life, it wouldn't develop an intellect. A natural inherent intelligence would take over to maintain the body. That's it.

When I'm in the midst of life and flowing, I don't have time to be thinking about these things: Is there a Mind Is there "other" Am I imagining this or is this real Is there a "me" or an "I" Am I saying this correctly without being deluded Am I actually seeing that tree Am I this or am I that, is this word the right word, am I really aware of that cow or is that cow a cow, I mean, really.... It's only when I'm discussing the topic of Reality, the Absolute, Existential topics, the Universe, things like that when I'm concerned with lingo. Or responding to these types of inquiries and talking about Spirituality. Some will say that's not embodiment. Well, I say the body does whatever it wants. I don't even think there's such a thing as embodiment only responsiveness. The body responds to stimuli. It's not concerned with thoughts. Thoughts are concerned about or with other thoughts. The body is only concerned with it's survival. Things I say doesn't affect the body. It may respond to what's been said but there's no cause and effect. What I say may cause the body to respond but the effect has nothing to do with what I say. The body is it's own mechanism. It's like a machine; in fact, it is a machine. It works on it's own. It responds to and not a product of it's environment. What I think I am is a thought. I am not the body because the body is not a thought. What I see is not a thought. What I say about what I see is a thought. My ideas are thoughts. The "I" is a thought. Where is the "I" I can't see the I. I only see a body. A body that has hands, feet, eyes, a mouth, lips and ears. Does it have a brain. I don't know, I've never seen my brain. Is it even really a body. I don't know because that's just a word. Call it anything; doesn't change what it actually is.

Lol. Can't wait. This should be fun. I can't stop cracking up. You and me both. I've decided organizing an online journal is too much thoughts, so I'm just going to write as it comes, even if I organize, it'll be on the spot. Do you. Love it. Mines is "Conversations with Thoughts." I was about to make an entry then I spotted yours and now after writing all this I forgot what I wanted to say. Lol. Couldn't capture that mess. Oh well, there are more messes to come. The Cosmos is chaos. Why do you think you want to write. To put order to this chaos. Don't worry, chaos is good. Makes room for order.

He's going to dissect your one little sentence into 10 paraphrases. First it will be : "As I remember", Then "correctly", then, "you wrote somewhere", then etcetc. Until you won't even recognize the sentence you wrote and why you even wrote it and how you even came up with it. Haha. Love you @Schizophonia. Now you'll dissect "love you" into 7 paraphrase, letter by letter.

Yes God. Thank you.

Yes, schizophrenic blah, blahs. Lol

Music is more natural than your words. Words that come from useless thoughts. Thoughts that believe one needs strength to change one's life and that music makes one submissive. Music can be relatively therapeutic to one that can benefit from a little soothing. A soothing from thoughts that created your kind of message. So maybe it is more music that is needed to free the thoughts you are claiming. Music without thoughts.

Maybe what he's actually saying is he's the only tree. You're a part of the tree. Reverse that as saying, you're the tree and he's a part of that tree. Same thing. How can a mind exists independently on it's own. Where is it's ground, it's roots.

What if everything everybody ever said was the Truth. What if it is all true. What if there is no such thing as a lie, and also no such thing as truth, and also no such thing as no such thing; and what if there's something as no such thing. Wait....even me can't even understand what I just wrote. Let me read that again. See, the mind can come up with all sorts of things; all sorts of explanations for what is. Why is any of it false or any of it true, What determines that, also the mind. Thoughts. Thoughts are deciding if thoughts are true or if thoughts are false. What a thought-fuck. Thoughts fucking thoughts. Jesus, what a .......was gonna say mind-fuck. We say things are relative. Relative to what? Relative to the subject? To who is looking, perceiving? We say there is no other and this is the Absolute, but at the same time relativity exists. The Absolute is relative to itself? We call things paradoxical, but what does that even mean. Something that cannot be explained? Something that contradicts it's own self? Isn't language made up. Made up to make sense of existence. What if there are no paradoxes, no truth, no falsehoods. What if everything were true and false simultaneously. What if not nothing was true and nothing is false. Same thing. We can twist and mingle words together for different meanings. Some words have the same meaning and some different meanings. The same word. How is that. Depends on how you look at it, we say. Who is doing the interpreting. Maybe, just maybe, nothing is true and everything is true. Nothing is false and everything is false. Isn't that the same thing. Different wordings.

Remember, there are seemingly different parts to a tree. The root, the stems, the branches, the leaves, the fruit etc.....same tree. So just because you may write from your own mind, consciousness or whatever you call it, it doesn't mean it's totally independent of another's. On the other hand, though, other trees do exist, so that equation may not hold up.

Exactly. That's why 1000's of approaches can defeat the purpose.

This is what we can't understand. Everything is not for everybody. We focus our attention on the things we don't like and complain about it, while others are enjoying and finding useful the same thing. We seek out pain, then we complain about the pain when it hits.

Remember, God dumbed itself down. What do you expect. Sheesh!!. 😜

.....and Jesus gonna bazook.

There are apparent stages/phases that one goes through when it comes to Spirituality. Most of you are aware of them; and even though they are different for everyone, I won't get into the details of mine for the sake of brevity. What I will get into, though, is the stage I'm apparently at and how it's very difficult to see pass a particular aspect. I've been through the apparent initial shock, the purging, the cravings, the settling, the integration and seeming embodiment. I was never really an active, vigilant seeker; even though it's still seeking no matter how you look at it; but I was never really trying to get somewhere or enlightened or awaken or anything of the sort. I was more of the curious type and just wanting to know as much as I could, which is still seeking but for a particular reason that's knowledge-based. I'm like a nerd and always reading and learning about different stuff pertaining to life, psychology, self-improvement and the likes. That's just me and has been for a long time. What I'm skeptical about and cannot seem to get pass is anything that doesn't include EVERYBODY. What I mean by this is, I cannot see how because one has access to certain knowledge and teachings how they seem more fortunate than those who don't or have any clue that it even exists. Seems as if this stuff is only for the privileged and not "rich" privileged; but having access to. We're talking about life-changing stuff and the kind of stuff that can potentially save lives, or even end it, depends on how you look at it. This isn't about non-duality now, but more practicality. There are teachings and processes and books and videos and ceremonies and all sorts of stuff that people do Spiritually in order to obtain and achieve certain things; and it seems to me that those who aren't, don't know, are unaware, or are even doing the "wrong" things, that they will end up in a worse place or left stranded or "die" without knowing the difference. Why should that matter. Why should it be the case that we didn't ask to come here but we have to figure out how to live and suffer because we didn't get access or at worst don't care to even make the attempt. We say we are subconsciously led by our habits and focus and attention; but most at a young age were not really responsible for how they were raised and that plays a huge role in how one's psych develops. Seems to me, we get punished for things we can't help and that we need to DO certain things, or else. I'm not speaking about normal stuff like morality, or learning skills, or normal life challenges; even though not excluded, because that also seems to be for the privileged and being in the right place at the right time, but exclude all that, I'm focusing on the Spiritual aspect. If the man up the street doesn't know anything about this stuff, why is he "doomed", or why are gurus any different from their students or why because I believe one thing over another, my life will become chaotic or why does it take another to grow me while they are human just like I am. Because they know better? Who determines that? They were a baby once and learnt about life too; so now because circumstances led them on a different path, they are better at steering the blind? Speaking about the blind. There are processes that require sight, how does that work, there are processes that requiring hearing, how about the deaf, there are processes or teachings that require all the five senses; and i don't have to expand on the point I'm trying to convey here. Seems like there are conditions and circumstances that are required to "save" the population on a Spiritual level and I cannot get pass that. There are people in jungles and live without access to certain things; it shouldn't be a requisite. A lot of people are stuck, feel unmotivated, feel empty, lonely, sad, depressed, anxious, confused, are suffering and seemingly ignorant to quite a few things and are reaching out to others for help; and it seems to me that the whole world is in a state of ignorance as to who or what they really are and how to cope with the seeming challenges of life - but momma and pappa don't have a clue either and they're the ones that brought us here - so-to-speak. Most are clueless. It's a challenge to stay alive and there are even lots of people who possess most of the things that "normal" people are trying to obtain and will fight or even kill for, but they are still coping and are still depressed and not happy with life. Seems as if there's a rat race going on for people who didn't ask to come here and i just can't get pass most of the Spiritual stuff that's in favor over one and not the other. Either it includes all or none. This is why the stage where I'm at (it's not really a stage, but for language purposes) where there's no one, no life, no world or Universe, nothing is happening, it's just this, right here right now, alive and kicking, with no past, no future, no space, no time, no awareness, no consciousness, no mind, no nothing......but EVERYTHING simultaneously is where I'm at. The Jim Newman and Emerson stuff. All of it. Something in me resonates with that TOTALLY, and his messages aren't new to me. In fact, I heard it a while back but never resonated as much as it does now. Now that I've weeded out and have something to compare it to, along with resonance. IT INCLUDES EVERYONE, EVERYTHING AND NO ONE SIMULTANEOUSLY. It's the only message on an existential level that TOTALLY makes sense even though it doesn't make sense. That's the paradox. That's the mystery. This to me, is all there is, ever was and will ever be. All that said, I'm still operating from a human level and interacting with life the same as before, still listen to "teachings" and am still exploring and will always be curious. It's just certain things have fallen away. There's no one here to recognize or realize anything I've said, it's only a message. I did not get anything, nor did I gain anything. Each and everyone of you is in the same boat I'm in. The nothing is everything boat. I may speak a little bit differently, but it's not me doing it, it's just happening. I'm not trying to be different or change anything because there's nothing to change. There's just a resonance that happens and I have nothing to do with it. The sense of "I" recognizes there's no "I" but there's also simultaneously an "I", and I don't see a need to have to change that because that's also what is. I love this stuff and will always be engaged, but without trying to get somewhere or know anything. Only on the practical/human level, which will still just be happening without me consciously doing it anyway; but nevertheless, i'm not concerned with all that nor will be debating anything of the sort with anyone because it makes no difference and will just be null and void. Whatever happens, happens and whatever appears, appears; and what is, is. There's a differentiation of Spirituality and Practicality happening here and the difference between the two is not a problem for me where I will become oblivious to the normal ways of life and the world and become nihilistic (which is just a belief system), if anything it's the opposite which comes with more peace and less resonance with mental suffering and pain and agony. This was long; but so what, it's the message that counts.

A real Guru would recognize there's no one to help because this is Absolute. Absolutely perfecto!! What's needed is for people to recognize wholeness. Completion. No separate self. Then work from there.

This is what we're ultimately after, The end of the misery and suffering that is a by-product of the separate self. We seek to end the "l", which cannot help but seek to reconnect to the whole. It is unaware that's what it's actually seeking. Why do you think there's so much misery and suffering in the world. The individual cannot help but to seek, it's a function. It's not really separate, though, but only in it's individual dream.

In some sense I agree with this and in some I don't. It's OK. I'm just saying. I don't think OP was referring to this type of seeking though. Some masters and gurus are still seeking. Seeking an audience. I mean, we can interpret seeking in all sorts of ways. I'm pretty sure most of us have an idea what OP is referring to; but we want to play word games and beat around the message.